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Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
Sun Jun 24, 2018, 07:03 AM Jun 2018

Don Jr., Trump Tower meeting: "So can you show us how does this money go to Hillary?

The account of the Trump Tower meeting, via some participants:

"According to a person who was there, after some pleasantries about the view of Central Park, Don got straight to it."

"'So I believe you have some information for us?' he asked. Veselnitskaya began reading from prepared remarks about DNC donors the Ziff brothers, their alleged tax evasion, and the connection she saw between them and Putin critic Bill Browder ... Don tried to get the conversation back on track. ‘So can you show us how does this money go to Hillary?’ two of the participants recall him asking."

"Don began to realize he wasn't going to be handed what he was hoping for. 'The light just went out in his eyes,' the participant told me recently. 'He was totally disinterested.'"

"'I think he regrets taking the meeting,' a source close to Don told me. 'Does he regret it because he thinks he did something wrong? No. He regrets it because it ended up causing a situation that wasted a lot of time and money.'"

https://www.axios.com/donald-trump-jr-trump-tower-meeting-russia-mueller-investigation-763ab903-0e2a-47ae-82a2-2fbcd015fa97.html


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Don Jr., Trump Tower meeting: "So can you show us how does this money go to Hillary? (Original Post) Miles Archer Jun 2018 OP
"I would have totally robbed that bank...if it had any money" Docreed2003 Jun 2018 #1
Watch out for axios sharedvalues Jun 2018 #2
Axios is pulling quotes from a GQ story by Julia Ioffe blogslut Jun 2018 #5
Right. That's the definition of bothsidesism. sharedvalues Jun 2018 #6
Hang on... blogslut Jun 2018 #3
Projection on steroids because they know malaise Jun 2018 #4
Isn't the attempt at a crime still a crime in summer situations? uponit7771 Jun 2018 #7

Docreed2003

(16,866 posts)
1. "I would have totally robbed that bank...if it had any money"
Sun Jun 24, 2018, 07:36 AM
Jun 2018

Make all the excuses you want you walking Turd, doesn't make your actions any more legal!!!

sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
2. Watch out for axios
Sun Jun 24, 2018, 07:49 AM
Jun 2018

Axios is capable of following the truth, at times.
But we should be careful with them.
They have EXTREME bothsidesism, trying to balance both sides and thus often leaning quite to the right.

Axils was founded by a former cofounder of Politico, VandeHei. Politico has done better recently, but in its early days it also bent toward the right.

Also, this story seems like it was fed to the pub by he Trump administration. If they were going to do that it makes sense to find a friendly but still mainstream pub.

I’m skeptical about this story.

sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
6. Right. That's the definition of bothsidesism.
Sun Jun 24, 2018, 08:34 AM
Jun 2018

Axios doesn’t make stuff up, but it tilts right.
Because its goal is not to be objective and truth-seeking.
Its goal is to be balanced.
That’s the problem that leads to bothsidesism.

As for this article, despite quotes from Ioffe (who is generally good), the axios presentation is biased by bothsidesism and lies by omission. (Should discuss the known spies at the meeting and what their goal would be: see if Trumpsters would take meeting, which alone is compromising; Manaforts strange notes from meeting, all the lies from Kushner and Jr about it; spies like Sipher saying this was a classic intel recruitment approach; etc)

blogslut

(38,002 posts)
3. Hang on...
Sun Jun 24, 2018, 07:58 AM
Jun 2018

"wasted time and money"

Is this wasted money the figurative kind ala the bromide: "time equals money"?

Or is this actual money? Does this mean somebody got paid to hold this meeting? Who got paid?

malaise

(269,067 posts)
4. Projection on steroids because they know
Sun Jun 24, 2018, 08:04 AM
Jun 2018

How they operate. That's why the US is still waiting for Don the Con's tex returns

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