Trump totally dominates Democratic Underground.

[LAS14]

Let's talk about our message and strategies to get it across. Did you see that George Will has recommended that Republicans vote Democratic in 2018? My personal focus is the NDRC.... National Democratic Redistricting Committee. Started by Obama and Holder. To fight gerrymandering.

What is your favorite positive focus?

[applegrove]

1. Social capital. Used to be high in northern US, low in the South. Now

it has fallen. Canada works hard on it and teaches it to immigrants. When i take a bus in Ottawa there is a smilingfest going on as people cross each other's paths.

http://blogs.lse.ac.uk/usappblog/2015/07/20/why-we-need-to-think-again-about-the-decline-in-social-capital/

[msongs]

2. mayabe DU needs a trump forum for those posts giving him publicity nt

[NY_20th]

5. I think you're right.

There seems to be a lot of posts that promote Trump.

I honestly have no interest in reading any of them.

[sheshe2]

10. There are a lot of posts that "promote Trump"?

Promote Trump?

NY_20th
5. I think you're right.

There seems to be a lot of posts that promote Trump.

WTF?

You have seen this here on DU?

pro·mote
further the progress of (something, especially a cause, venture, or aim); support or actively encourage.

give publicity to (a product, organization, or venture) so as to increase sales or public awareness.

advance or raise (someone) to a higher position or rank.

act as a promoter of (a catalyst).

Perhaps you are mistaking DU for another site? This is Democratic Underground and I never once saw anyone EVER promoting trump on this site.

[NY_20th]

15. Do you agree, or disagree with the OP?

[sheshe2]

17. The OP said nothing about promoting trump.

Not one word.

They said "
Trump totally dominates Democratic Underground.

That would be the volume of ridicule, hatred and contempt of the man. That is not the same as promoting the man.

[NY_20th]

18. OK

You've made your point.

I don't agree, but you're entitled to you opinion, of course.

[sheshe2]

20. Lol

I just posted to you below. I was kind and gave you as new a break. Sigh. Now you are back at DU promotes DT stick. I tried.Whatever. Have a great night.

[NY_20th]

22. I probably won't have a good night until

Trump is out of office.

[sheshe2]

24. None of us will.

Our children are dying with an administration of ceaseless nightmares.

[Docreed2003]

27. Preach on sheshe!! ;-)!!!

[Kingofalldems]

43. I see posts that passively support Trump every day.

There is one in GD now about African Americans and immigrants.

[sheshe2]

44. You mean the one based on a debunked Harvard-Harris Poll internet poll?

Yeah, well they are getting a lot of push back.

[NY_20th]

48. Thank you.

I see them as well. There was one today that was very pathetic.

[lunatica]

14. I must be on the wrong DU then

I haven’t seen a single post promoting Trump.let me check.

Yup. I’m on DU. What are you talking about?

[NY_20th]

16. I was responding to a comment on the OP

that said Trump dominates DU.

[sheshe2]

19. I know you are new here and trust me I know that it can be hard.

We all did it. We were all newbies once.

I posted to you above and I think I explained it. Yes, trump is mentioned here a lot, pure hatred of the man that is destroying all we stand for. That is not the same as promoting him. Okay? Are we okay here?

[NY_20th]

21. Honestly, my only concern is rectifying

this atrocity.

We simply can't wait for Mueller to finish his investigation.

We need to regain control of the house and make inroads in the Senate. Then we need to vote him out in 2020.

That is the only way we are going to save our Democracy. It's our only power.

[sheshe2]

23. We are trying to do that...

Hell we are fighting our asses off to do that.

There are great OPs about the inroads we are making. I have one about remarkable women running and winning. Many Ops about the Democrats that are going to the shelters to do something about the mass kidnapping and the mass incarceration in camps for the children.

I know you want to rectify it, we all do. We can do this together.

[FarPoint]

28. tRump is an absolute Dictator...

He is abusive...he has America in constant chaos.. It appears we are under attack without the weapons.

[Docreed2003]

26. Please point me in the direction of posts "promoting" trump

So I can alert them right now!!

[NY_20th]

42. There was one a few hours ago,

but that poster is now gone.

[LAS14]

37. That's a terrific idea!!! How does one propose a new forum?? nt

[OhNo-Really]

3. so distressed hard to think. trump wins consuming hearts and minds.

parasite

[JI7]

4. Because this forum isn't really about campaign organizing

[TomSlick]

6. It's impossible to ignore Trump.

The Republic is endangered. We must speak up.

[leftstreet]

7. Medicare For All would knock Trump out of the headlines n/t

[a kennedy]

8. Robert Kennedy the III

He’s my positive vibe.

[Crutchez_CuiBono]

9. What the agreed upon current platform planks?

Increase wages
Healthcare for all
Unions are good.
Marijuana reform.
Corporate reform.
Supreme Court Do-over (fraudulaently picked based on a fraudulent election)
and of course..
IMPECHMENT of dt.
Sound good for starters?

Schiff/Swalwell 2020. Or Kamala.

[UTUSN]

11. Taking the liberty to *both* accede to the O.P. *and* disagree (and depart to let the thread go on)

Part 1: Agreeing with the O.P.:

The Democratic "message" (our agenda) is, for me, what it has always been: Civil Rights, social/economic justice, civil liberties, and stewardship of the planet.

As for strategy, it's what we've lost our way about, VOTING - organizing and mobilizing the way LBJ and African Americans zeroed-in on. Getting our constituent groups to stop voting against their own self-interest.

************************************

Part 2: About SHITLER.

No, we cannot just ignore him and focus on our issues/agenda. Talk about "elephant in the room" - to ignore him is to live that meme. He is the gigantic *THREAT* to our very democracy, period. We will piddle our way pretending to ignore him until the soon day that our whole way of life (our agenda) is gone.

The lesson of Bill CLINTON was: We won power after TWELVE long years, a hard trek. We had a charismatic leader. Our goal was to make up for lost time and get AS MUCH of our agenda furthered as possible. Quite a bit got done, but then everything STOPPED being about our agenda and became all about SAVING HIM. At the time, we Dems went to the last barricade for ONE PERSON and stopped thinking about our agenda. All our ENERGY went to HIM.

So, now the shoe is on the other foot. It's all about SHITLER for now because the FIRST STEP has to be DEFUSING him/the total obstacle to *everything*. On separate tracks, work on the agenda goes on, perhaps with less hullabaloo, via court cases and VOTING, but ignoring him is not an option.

**********END of my distraction to the thread.

[LAS14]

38. I'm not proposing totally ignoring him. But don't you think he's taken over our space?? nt

[UTUSN]

45. He is a ****gigantic**** threat that has to be dealt with (taken over)

[Chickensoup]

12. when your house is on fire you put the fire out first.

The reason Trump dominates the news cycle and Du is because his threat is existential to our national security , our leading position in the world, our friends and Allies, the cause of freedom, Democracy, human rights, war and peace, global warming, survival of the species, American health insurance needs, clean air, clean water, consumer protection, decent living wage, educational resources for our children, safety and security for our students at schools and many many more depend on us winning.
If Trump is elected for a second term kiss America as we know it goodbye for a long time. There will be more lethal, more dangerous and a lot smarter Trumps down the road. They will use his tactics and strategies to win and they will be better liers. Trump did not win on a positive vision. He won on fear and hate. Trump resurrected old skeletons and common misconceptions and brought them to our living rooms and our bedrooms and he had a ready audience that ate it all up and still asking for more.
He won on raw emotions and a powerful machine of right-wing demagogues, racism, a powerful and resourceful adversary named Russia and with the help of the GOP there was no checks and balances.
Trump is not just a crazy person, he is a poisonous snake and he poisons everything he touches. Like the snake poem he used to recite during his campaign, we invited him in by voting for him.
Mainstream media is trying to maintain professionalism in reporting. The view and the opposing view as close to 50-50 as possible
While Rush Limbaugh, Mark Levin, and Fox News to name a few right-wing demagogues deliver only one message,
Pro Trump all the way even if they have to lie and lie. So a simple equation tells us that our message gets 25% while the Nazi pro-Trump massage gets 75% of total exposure in the media, and we wonder why our message is lost and his message succeeds in fogging the truth.
We should be positive, register voters, organize and do all the traditional election preparation needed at the same time realize what we are facing. Even our great Constitution can be suspended in the presence of clear and present danger.
Such danger can be real, it can also be manufactured by a pathological liar and his supporters especially if they believe they are saving our country from us.

[UTUSN]

47. Exactly

[Niagara]

13. Democratic Voters Dominates Democratic Underground n/t

[UCmeNdc]

25. It is because Trump is totally dominating the American government.

He and his appointed leaders that are deep into every corner of the US government. His judge appointments are affect voting. Trump is intentionally promoting gerrymandering and undermining Holder and his Redistricting Committee. George Will is recommending that Republicans vote for Democratic candidates in 2018 is a direct result of Trump controlling the GOP and thus controlling the direction of the entire United States government.

DU needs to talk about Trump and more Trump.

[vlyons]

29. Elect Beto O'Rouke for TX senator

to replace Ted Cruz

[duforsure]

32. I agree

Cruz is another trump tool , and they plan on destruction of Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security claiming it needs to be fixed, then they'll steal more from it like W did, then under fund it like they're doing to the ACA. Cruz is really bad for this state , and will also lie about everything. All to pay for their campaign finding from the wealthy they gave a windfall amount to with their tax scam. Again we're paying for them to get richer.

[irisblue]

30. Do you know why & how DU was formed?

Time for Skinner to repost the origin threads I guess

[beachbum bob]

31. positive focus? Ridding our country of trump and republicans and doing it

2008 my wife and I registered 1000 new voters...thats where it starts. Takes more than the handwringing and complaining in DU to get it done

[LAS14]

39. Congratulations!! What organization were you working with? nt

[MFM008]

33. Maggot dominates

DU because he's making the policies we have to RUN against.
To ignore him is to ignore the elephant in the room. Republicans and their policies ARE the problem and the sack of crap in the white house is the poster boy.
Also airing our venom here is good therapy, anyone who thinks otherwise is missing the point.

[Vinca]

34. We need a place to vent about Trump and this is it.

I guess I'm a contrarian about what Democrats need to run on. At this point there is one thing and one thing only: saving our democracy. And there's only one way to do that: get rid of Trump. It's nice to mention healthcare and jobs and education and all the other things, but in the end none of it matters unless we get every single person who is opposed to Trump out to the polls to vote in Democrats. That includes Republicans who might not support our ideas for healthcare, but want to get the country back to some semblance of normalcy.

[LAS14]

40. What would you think about creating a forum just for Trump bashing? nt

[Vinca]

49. I think that would make GD a very quiet forum. Sorry, but everything revolves around Trump

these days. If we talk healthcare, he's taking it away. If we talk jobs, his tariffs are killing them. If we talk immigration, he's turning us into Nazi Germany. I think you're just going to have to get through it for the time being. I do know exactly how you feel, though. I stayed away from the site when it got to be Bernie, Bernie, Bernie all the time. I mean how many times can you say you hate the guy, right? LOL.

[sharedvalues]

35. Voter registration and getting young people to vote

Also I like to think about how we should impeach the illegitimate judges after the GOP has been broken. Because the Russians helped put Trump in office and also helped the GOP hold the Senate. Pat Toomey won only with the help of Russian voter suppression.

I have been thinking about Louis Brandeis recently, a man who played a huge role in America the last time the wealthy were trying to damage the country.

Elizabeth Warren is a lot like Brandeis.



p.s. good thread

[Pluvious]

36. Teaching the Younger voters to exercise their right to VOTE !! nt.

[northremembers]

41. Housing Costs

If Democrats had a plan to solve increasing housing costs I believe they would win a solid victory. Building more housing isn't going to be enough. Raising the minimum wage isn't going to be enough. There is a lot of policy that needs to be in play that addresses: transportation (no one wants to sit in traffic 2 hours each way to get to work, though many now do), investors driving up prices, abolishing predatory loans, scaling income to match housing cost increases without driving inflation up (tough nut to crack, but essential), and quality of proximity public education.

[treestar]

46. Because the media is

Giving him all that attention