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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsA Trump voter at work told me god put Trump in the Whithouse, I went off.
I asked him, how do you know it wasn't the devil you asshole? I then told him when his time comes and he arrives at the pearly gates, he will find a sign hanging on the pearly gates that reads, No hypocrites allowed.
He also told me I could not where my anti-Trump shirts at work or talk badly about Trump. I told him to go fuck himself. He will probably turn me into management. If management says something to me I will tell them to go fuck themselves.
Kidnapping babies was the final straw me. I will not shut up. I will tell Trump votes what I think of them. Fuck all of them. If I get fired, I'm only 59 years old, I will find another job.
When I told my wife what happened I was worried she would say you can't lose your job, be careful .My wife simply said, good. Love that women.
Lint Head
(15,064 posts)my fellow employee would go to management. But he did not. He was a coward. They are all cowards. Adults who still need their "baby blanket" (Trump) to comfort them and make their bigotry okay are cowards. They cannot think for themselves because they are lazy.
You are courageous.
Gore1FL
(21,151 posts)"This person insisted on discussing politics and religion with me and didn't like my answers at least as much as I didn't like theirs. If they insist on having inappropriate conversations with me in the future I wouldn't be at all surprised if the outcome was the same. I recommend we simply refrain from such controversial discussions in the course of our work."
Ultimately, turnover and discipline is an unpleasant waste management's time. They would prefer the dust to settle and work to continue. That response gives them an easy way to allow that to happen and makes you the calm and sensible person to deal with.
Kidnapping was my final straw too, de-friended 4 yesterday on FB, no time for their shit
C Moon
(12,221 posts)they are a multi-millionaire, or they are racist. Which are you?
niyad
(113,552 posts)HAB911
(8,912 posts)SunSeeker
(51,694 posts)lkinwi
(1,477 posts)Years ago, I heard him tell a Reagan supporter that to vote for him you had to be either rich or stupid and youre not rich.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)It's so clear and simple.
If you support a kidnapper; you're dead to me. Period.
kentuck
(111,110 posts)I would not think?
jayschool2013
(2,313 posts)to find the word "god" in the Constitution.
mwooldri
(10,303 posts)Or tartan paint.
keroro gunsou
(2,223 posts)Breastplate stretcher.
Maybe Robert was onto something there....
Bettie
(16,124 posts)that was my grandpa's favorite.
ooky
(8,929 posts)What a stupid argument that is for Christians to support an evil president.
The Figment
(494 posts)My supervisor (a fundie dittohead) called me in on a Friday morning and said "I need your keys,we are making a few changes around here" I applied for unemployment as soon as I got home and the following Tuesday went to my unemployment hearing...not only did they not return their phone calls they didn't show up for the hearing.
I was approved on the spot.
Aristus
(66,462 posts)The same thing happened to me. When I was a Medical Assistant working in a private clinic, my boss, the doctor (a rabid right-winger) fired me abruptly one Friday. He told me it wasn't because of our political differences, and made a pretty good case for another reason, but I'm sure it was a decisive factor.
Anyway, I had another job by that following Tuesday; a job which set me on the path to get me where I am today. I couldn't be happier about that.
A number of years later, I ran in to my old boss, the doctor. He had sold his practice and gone to work for the VA.
The Figment
(494 posts)Glad to be here.
True Blue American
(17,988 posts)That will take your case Pro Bono!
Many would love that publicity.
The Figment
(494 posts)You know,one of those "right to be fired for any reason" states
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)If you have good software development skills or if you have electro-mechanical experience, New Orleans and Atlanta are good places to look if you are willing to move.
The Figment
(494 posts)CPOD and congestive heart failure had a nasty heart attack two years ago
True Blue American
(17,988 posts)The Republicans here in Ohio tried to pass that. Leaders told them, wasteful time,Kasich will not sign it
He tried to kill Public Unions when he first won by 2%. Signatures and winning at the Ballot box overwhelmingly clipped his wings. His statement? The people have spoken!
Now, he is Mistermoderate nice guy!
Prof.Higgins
(194 posts)he's cunning and subtle enough not to speak like an irrational extremist and rabid bigot. As a president, he would have appointed Neil Gorsuch to SCOTUS and gleefully signed the tax cut bill to gift big bucks to very rich bosses/oligarchs and crumbs to all the middle income hardworking employees. If we want to preserve unions, workers rights and conditions and, call me crazy, to raise the minimum wage to the living wage level that even less-wealthy countries like Australia have, then John Kasich and his ilk are enemies of socio-economic progress.
True Blue American
(17,988 posts)Out the trash in the names of Mike DeWine and Jon Husted, too!
Elect Richard Cordray.
C Moon
(12,221 posts)Sedona
(3,769 posts)KPN
(15,650 posts)JHB
(37,161 posts)Who, according to a certain book they claim to be enthusiasts of, insisted on outward displays of piety while engaging in a wide range of unethical and immoral behavior.
LittleGirl
(8,291 posts)about your job and you being 59. I'm nearly 59 and I can't find a job to save my life. Too qualified, too nice, etc have been reasons for not hiring me. Don't mess around with your retirement (if you have one). Good luck.
llmart
(15,552 posts)I'd live under a bridge before I'd be one of those border agents separating children from their parents, but then I have always had very strong principles about some things and they are sacrosanct to me.
dhill926
(16,355 posts)just fucking fed up. I open my mouth and am pretty damn loud about it. Fuck 'em....
jaxind
(1,074 posts)Yes...tRUMP needs his baby blanket and his baby blankets are his rallies! His rally just now in Minnesota and his other rallies all seem to take place after he's been crucified about something and he can't get out of the bad rap he's gotten! He needs his cult to make him feel good about himself! Also, the next time someone says God put tRUMP in office, ask them why they scoffed at any possible thought that Obama voters thought that Obama was the Messiah (even though I don't think we ever said that... it was the rethugs that wanted to claim that we said that)!
AllaN01Bear
(18,384 posts)guy is a jerk if he turns u into managment . is mangement a trump supporter? if they do fire u id sue the heck out of them. and him. he has no place to tell u what u can and cant say. even if he is a supervisor. what is he ? is he a political officer? (nazi germany reference ) ps god just told me drumphurer wasnt put in office by him.
OhNo-Really
(3,985 posts)Right to screw employees is a better name
ALEC wrote these laws
Ferrets are Cool
(21,110 posts)for any reason whatsoever. One of the biggest LIES the repugs ever told.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)workplace regulations. In other words, congress cannot pass a law against expressing your political views on your clothing, but your boss can. I'd say this place is pretty liberal on the subject if it allows anti- Trump t-shirts at work.
Probably all state constitutions have its counterpart, but again those say states can't pass laws abridging the freedom of speech.
dameatball
(7,399 posts)were prohibited. Actually it was the best job I ever had until I retired.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)most pretty sensible. We don't want ICE agents with YOU SHOULD DIE! tattoos on their necks.
I was just chatting with a NC state worker who'll qualify to retire before long, and then tour the country with her husband as they've planned for a long time. But with promotions her already good job's developed into something she really loves.
True Blue American
(17,988 posts)A good Attorney would love a case like this.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)Not much a lawyer can do with that.
True Blue American
(17,988 posts)Unjust firing is another story.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)Wow, guess Ive been lucky in my work experiences.
Anywhere Ive worked, an employee would at the very least face disciplinary action.
AZ8theist
(5,492 posts)I watched some video during the campaign (I forget who created it..) of interviews at a Dotard rally in Ohio, I believe.
One guy supported Dotard because "he was a good business man"...
A GOOD BUSINESS MAN??!?!?!?! WTF???
His supporters are imbeciles.
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ProfessorGAC
(65,168 posts)When PINO got his inheritance, the money could have been broad based invested in a variety of index funds and would have accumulated to 3x what was claimed as the peak net worth.
By taking that to 2x, he could have lived off a yearly income, for more than 4 decades, of between 350 and 570 times the median household income. On top of that, that 350 to 570 is after tax money, compared to GROSS household income.
So, living like Louis XIV for more than 4 decades, there would still be a net worth of 2x what was claimed by DOING NOTHING! No BKO's, no stiffing contractors, no breaking deals, no branding, no stupid TV show.
This great business man is far less wealthy with that great business acumen than he would have been by doing nothing but living off the yield.
Garrett78
(10,721 posts)SammyWinstonJack
(44,130 posts)PatrickforO
(14,587 posts)mythology
(9,527 posts)lancelyons
(988 posts)go tell HR that this guy is harassing you.
you dont need to put up wiht that.
True Blue American
(17,988 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)deplore the action. Don't attack coworkers. Express worry about the children, speak of decency and goodness, shock to learn that there were no plans to return the children to their parents, perhaps ever.
As it is, my best guess is that anyone listening was turned off by both of you. Those who sympathize and want to somehow help the children certainly don't need that kind of "help.'
Hope you still have a job and a second chance to speak up for good and against evil at it.
Quixote1818
(28,968 posts)muntrv
(14,505 posts)CountAllVotes
(20,878 posts)Catechism level mind you.
Question: Does God know all things?
Answer: Yes, God knows all things.
Where is God?
Answer: God is everywhere!
WinstonSmith4740
(3,056 posts)This will not end until we make it end. I just can't believe that the company wouldn't be setting themselves up for a major lawsuit if they fired you because of your political beliefs. It infuriates me that the Trumpsters seem to feel they have to right to spew his hatred an any time, but the rest of us have to walk on eggshells, and never utter a word about our political beliefs. You can't "talk badly about Trump"? Fuck him. I'm willing to bet he's like every other Trump voter...just like Hair Furor, he's at best a fucking coward that gets his way by bullying and trying to intimidate others. Just make sure you don't come to work a minute late and give them an excuse to fire you.
It unfortunately will not be easy for you to find another job at 59, depending on what you do for a living. But I used to tell my late husband...you're the one who has to look at himself in the mirror every morning. If you can't work for these people for moral, ethical, or legal reasons, walk. We'll get by.
I have to admit we went through some tough times financially...it didn't matter. I worked, we got by, and we both kept our self-esteem. It was worth it.
CrispyQ
(36,509 posts)That's what I said to my religion addled, Trump supporting cousin & his head almost exploded.
True Blue American
(17,988 posts)Through the Prayer Chain at the Southern Baptist Church I attended for 4 years.
My post is on Google but since it is another board I will not post it.
I had already left the Church by then and wrote a blistering email to the person responsible for sending the Sermon from a Leader in that Church.
Comparing Trump to Churchill because Churchill smoked and drank.
Churchill was a war time Leader. What was Trump? A lying,cheating, crooked businessman.
Squinch
(51,004 posts)etc. Fuck it. We're beyond that. Way beyond. Enough. I'm going to join you in fighting the good fight with the gloves off.
They're the ones that threw the rule book in the trash.
Initech
(100,102 posts)This is where I draw the line. I will not stand by and let anyone I know defend this atrocity!
justgamma
(3,666 posts)God also sent locusts, pestilence and floods.
BobTheSubgenius
(11,564 posts)You are a lucky man, or woman.
Ilsa
(61,698 posts)That being said, I hope you look ten years younger than your age. All of my friends who lost employment at 57 or later had a horrible time finding similar work. I hope you get to keep your job if the work is important to you. Your wife is a peach. And I agree with you 100%. (I've been praying for Satan to recall trump.)
KPN
(15,650 posts)how we must all stand up openly against this heinous act by this dictatorial Administration. The dictator feels empowered by his blind, mindless and racist supporters. We need to all show courage against these ugly people. We outnumber them. But its also going to take us all to turn the tide and trajectory of our nation against them. We need to force them back from whence they came, like slugs from under a leaf.
Gothmog
(145,554 posts)Prof.Higgins
(194 posts)they are simply normal, truthful people with a real rational justification for their iniquities, incompetence and bigotries makes MSM celebrities like Rucker their enablers and, consequently, culpable for these appalling chikd abuse perpetrations.
If White House reporters had stopped sucking up to senior officials to get their "scoops", these child separations could have been stopped due to public outrage after dozens, not thousands, of families were separated. They then could have been quickly reunited. Thanks for nothing, Rucker and all the other craven White House Press corps toadies like him.
Very few like Ben Bradlee and Carl Berstein speaking truth to power these days. That's why we are incredibly fortunate to have the benefit of Rachel Maddow's and Lawrence O'Donnel's accurate information, courageous words and sound analysis on our side.
spanone
(135,873 posts)Kittycow
(2,396 posts)If that's the case, I would sure point that out to management if he runs to tattle.
DFW
(54,436 posts)Change the first letter to an S, and you'll be spot on.
shockey80
(4,379 posts)So maybe he is man enough not to say anything to management. You never know, I have met so many losers in the work place in my 40 years of employment.
Yes , it would be scary trying to find a job at 59 years old. I simply cannot let fear stop me from doing what is right. Fear is one of the biggest problems we have in this country. I cannot remain silent. They have gone to far.
I was wearing my "Trump is the Swamp " T-shirt the day we argued.
beachbum bob
(10,437 posts)haele
(12,676 posts)Does he also have that NOTW/God Warrior/Dominionist talking points on his tees, cups, office placards/meme pics and bumper stickers? Has he been known to go around spouting nonsense about "Libtards" and "Obummer" and other GOP/RWNJ crap?
I have yet to find a Evilangelical Drumpf Kult member who can't go an hour, much less a workday, without foisting their pathetic bigotry and fear-filled ignorance on co-workers and acquaintances.
Haele
If the guy has EVER used "libtard" in a conversation, it's a very offensive term. "Trump is the Swamp" is a pretty mild comment, inoffensive to everyone but swamps.
If Jerky Boy has been consistent with his rhetoric, one of the meanings of "Harassment" has to do with "creating an atmosphere'.
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)as we regain the majority in Congress... priority #1.
budkin
(6,714 posts)Good on you.
ailsagirl
(22,899 posts)bucolic_frolic
(43,281 posts)should be issued aluminum MAGA blankets and put in a warehouse chain-link cage for a few weeks
azureblue
(2,150 posts)Start with Matthew 25: 31 - 46
Then Matthew 7:15 and 24:11
For the homophobes, Leviticus 11:10 and 11:4-7, Also 21:20
Exodus 35:2, too (no working on the Sabbath),
and in Leviticus:
6. Failing to testify against any wrongdoing youve been told about (5:1)
7. Touching an unclean animal (5:2)
8. Carelessly making an oath (5:4)
9. Deceiving a neighbor about something trusted to them (6:2)
Also the various do not lie verses:
Leviticus 19:11 · ?Proverbs 12:22 · ?Proverbs 13:5 · ?John 8:44 Colossians 3
cooldude
(50 posts)I think you should not have put your job in jeopardy by expressing your beliefs using such harsh words. You could have expressed your beliefs without putting your job in jeopardy because now you can be accused of creating a hostile work environment and that gives your boss an excuse to fire you. It's better for our side to have you stay in that workplace so that you can continue to express your beliefs then be fired for expressing your beliefs too harshly.
coeur_de_lion
(3,681 posts)lindysalsagal
(20,730 posts)Forgetit. They're all far too irrational for sincere arguments.
dlk
(11,576 posts)What a loser!
JHB
(37,161 posts)rwsanders
(2,606 posts)you for political views.
So I took a different tack since t-shirts aren't allowed per the dress code anyhow. I bought this on amazon:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B074WDV4WY/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
OK, you say, doesn't look like much, but...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Rose
Hope this helps. I have a conservative African-American at my workplace, I know its driving him crazy, but he won't ask what it means.
Trek4Truth
(515 posts)moondust
(20,006 posts)The Blue Flower
(5,444 posts)Strange religion he has.
bucolic_frolic
(43,281 posts)to see if we could detect the Devil when we saw him
lady lib
(2,933 posts)Cha
(297,650 posts)lunatica
(53,410 posts)Calm down and think up some choice rejoinders and practice them a bit so they come to mind when you need them.
I find that humor, especially cutting humor laced with sarcasm is the best weapon.
When anyone says God likes Trump they dont expect a sarcastic response like, So God has a soft spot for pussy grabbers?
Or Evidently God really hates Mexican babies. Well thats a good thing to know! or, I wonder why God created brown people if he hates them so much.
Dont lose your job over these assholes. They arent worth it!
GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)I would counsel any worker exposing a pro/anti religion or pro/anti a trump message to stop immediately.
Any employee of mine that tells another to fuck off would be looking for a new job. And my Union Steward would not disagree. If someone insults you let me know and I will deal with it.
Tipperary
(6,930 posts)Acting like a child does not belong in any workplace.
Hekate
(90,793 posts)Here's a sample
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210735431
I wish I could find the citation from Ezekiel that says the sin of Sodom and Gomorrah was greed and selfishness such that they let people starve outside their gates. I'd add that if I could find it again.
rpannier
(24,338 posts)I didn't realize you worshiped Satan
Demovictory9
(32,475 posts)R B Garr
(16,975 posts)Loved this!
Raine
(30,540 posts)over or messing up your life.
MFM008
(19,818 posts)You for standing up for your principles, same for your wife.
Danascot
(4,694 posts)and deport the deplorables?
egduj
(805 posts)Unfortunately, at my job, they actually expect us to work instead of talk politics and religion all day.
7962
(11,841 posts)he knows I believe in God although I'm not outwardly a religious person. So I said I wasnt sure about that because did he really think God had a hand in our elections? SO he quickly responded "Of course, God controls everything". I said "Well, ok. Then I guess God also placed Obama in the WH for 8 yrs. Because He IS in charge after all"
He didnt really know what to say but he had to agree to a certain extent. Because I reminded him, God could have taken Obama OUT after just 1 term, but chose to give him a second!
Then he changed the subject to college football.