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Susan Sarandon joins the Ocasio team! (Original Post) brooklynite Jun 2018 OP
That alone is a reason to vote for Crowley nycbos Jun 2018 #1
THIS!!! KCDebbie Jun 2018 #2
Joe Crowley was on the House floor with John Lewis Gothmog Jun 2018 #12
no it is not...that is a really stupid reason. Please, just look at the two candidates and vote for JCanete Jun 2018 #34
No...she endorsed him...I wouldn't vote for him in a primary...however I don't live there. Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #42
we've been back and forth on that and still wholeheartedly disagree with each other. nt JCanete Jun 2018 #45
Didn't Surandon route for trump so the revolution would come sooner? brush Jun 2018 #58
I'm willing to let democratic primaries be democratic primaries. People aren't anointed. They are JCanete Jun 2018 #85
True that...agree to disagree. Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #74
Exactly. I hope someone spit on Susan. nt Blue_true Jun 2018 #47
won't waste spit on that POS, who gave aid and comfort to help the nazi occupy the WH still_one Jun 2018 #92
Yeah, I think you are right. nt Blue_true Jun 2018 #105
I wish her mothership would come and take her home already. TheBlackAdder Jun 2018 #3
her mission is a failure ... her lifestyle too extreeeeeeeeme ... (nt) mr_lebowski Jun 2018 #54
LOL: DUzy! n/t FSogol Jun 2018 #115
Sarandon endorsing her will kill any shred of hope she had kcr Jun 2018 #4
Sarandon helped nader in 2000 and trump in 2016 Gothmog Jun 2018 #13
She's poison Soxfan58 Jun 2018 #30
sarandon also supported john edwards.. Loser. Cha Jun 2018 #61
Well, now I'm on Crowley's side. WhiteTara Jun 2018 #5
I was staying neutral, NY_20th Jun 2018 #6
It's mostly Sarandan RandySF Jun 2018 #28
On his too in letting that witch anywhere near his campaign. brush Jun 2018 #60
Ocasio Cortez is a woman. NY_20th Jun 2018 #72
Poor judgment on her side then. brush Jun 2018 #79
I hope she dies alone and penniless. MrsCoffee Jun 2018 #7
i do too. i can't stand her. wish she lost her voice and could not speak.for the rest of her life trueblue2007 Jun 2018 #9
+1000. (nt) Paladin Jun 2018 #20
I do wonder if Sarandon has found the time to discuss the current situation at the border dsc Jun 2018 #8
doubtful...she doesn't care just victims of her imaginary revolution... Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #43
Doesn't say much for Ocasio judgement grantcart Jun 2018 #10
Joe Crowley stood with John Lewis and that is good enough for me Gothmog Jun 2018 #11
Sarandon should refrain from lecturing John Lewis. nt oasis Jun 2018 #14
That would require some common sense and a sense of decency Gothmog Jun 2018 #15
Susan thought nothing of giving Dolores Huerta an earful oasis Jun 2018 #16
Huerta is a real hero Gothmog Jun 2018 #17
Huerta is on AMJOY Gothmog Jun 2018 #18
I saw Huerta's interview. She's still going strong. oasis Jun 2018 #21
This makes me smile Gothmog Jun 2018 #49
And Sarandon had the nerve to lecture such an icon. oasis Jun 2018 #53
Oh she sure should. mahina Jun 2018 #69
Mahina oasis Jun 2018 #70
Aloha no Oasis! Good to see you. mahina Jun 2018 #71
Way back oasis Jun 2018 #75
Never give up. Same here. But we thought W was the worst! mahina Jun 2018 #84
Thanks for Joe Crowley with John Lewis, Goth.. Cha Jun 2018 #63
Go Crowley! mcar Jun 2018 #19
Saradon is campaigning against a current Democratic office holder. TeamPooka Jun 2018 #22
Who is surprised by this? Gothmog Jun 2018 #23
Saradon rusty fender Jun 2018 #25
To be fair, it's a deep blue district. RandySF Jun 2018 #29
She slink away in shame. Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #40
for a democrat though, so what is your point? It doesn't sound like one. JCanete Jun 2018 #36
She's never met a Democratic office holder she can support TeamPooka Jun 2018 #46
Sarandon's endorsement in NY is the kiss of death. smirkymonkey Jun 2018 #24
Go, Joe!! RandySF Jun 2018 #26
Vote Joe Crowley! Anyone backed by THAT Professional Communist Dawson Leery Jun 2018 #27
I Have Issues With Crowley Me. Jun 2018 #31
Interesting. H2O Man Jun 2018 #97
I Would Say Me. Jun 2018 #98
Okay. H2O Man Jun 2018 #99
It Would Be If It was Having A Serious Effect On His Votes Me. Jun 2018 #100
I agree 100%. H2O Man Jun 2018 #102
She cinched the nomination with just $600,000 cash on hand, Autumn Jun 2018 #113
It's the best news H2O Man Jun 2018 #114
Thanks to her MFM008 Jun 2018 #32
"You better wise up, Janet Weis!" n/t Different Drummer Jun 2018 #33
her apple pie ... don't taste too nice ... (nt) mr_lebowski Jun 2018 #56
Its good to see Susan helping an up and coming Democrat. aikoaiko Jun 2018 #35
I want nothing from her and a Democrat already has the seat;this year it dumb to primary Democrats Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #38
This seat will go to a D no matter who the candidate is. aikoaiko Jun 2018 #48
Effort is better spent on helping Dems in other districts against... brush Jun 2018 #65
And you think spending money on a safe seat when we desperately need to win the House is good idea? Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #76
Frankly, yes. We complain a lot about needing young blood with fresh ideas. aikoaiko Jun 2018 #103
Not this year...this year we need warm bodies and spending on Democratic held seats is money that Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #106
I should have taken you up on that bet. aikoaiko Jun 2018 #110
I would say formerly up and coming thank to Susan's endorsement which is poison. Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #44
Trying to cost Democrats a seat...primarying a Democrat...go to hell Susan. Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #37
She's toxic. (n/t) FreepFryer Jun 2018 #39
Trying to stay relevant Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jun 2018 #41
Huerto was out protecting the children-where is Sarandon? Gothmog Jun 2018 #50
She is amazing. nt DURHAM D Jun 2018 #55
susan sarandon should be in jail for pretty baby / child porn ... stonecutter357 Jun 2018 #51
Yes, that was disgusting lunamagica Jun 2018 #81
Geeze, stop being so knee jerk folks Tom Rinaldo Jun 2018 #52
A queston for you: Why waste the effort and funds trying to defeat... brush Jun 2018 #67
"Her campaign", not his. Ocasio is a she. Tom Rinaldo Jun 2018 #88
You're right I didn't know Ocasio was a she but I do know that... brush Jun 2018 #95
Sarandon would never endorse Kamala. NY_20th Jun 2018 #73
Of course I realize Sarandon is not popular with Democrats. But she endorsed Obama in 2008 Tom Rinaldo Jun 2018 #87
My first thought; I'm sure she finds Kamala to be "Establishment" treestar Jun 2018 #107
Exactly. NY_20th Jun 2018 #108
Is Kamala Harris running against a Democratic incumbent? News to me. brooklynite Jun 2018 #93
Can I take it that you now oppose primary opponents for any incumbent Democrats? Tom Rinaldo Jun 2018 #96
In 2018, I oppose burning time and money running against Democrats... brooklynite Jun 2018 #104
Did Nina send her? nt DURHAM D Jun 2018 #57
Yes...OR is involved...JPR is all excited too...all reason not support her. Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #77
SS is an ignorant arrogant fool. honest.abe Jun 2018 #59
brooklynite, I'm sure you're following the polling. What's it look like? aikoaiko Jun 2018 #62
I don't believe there has been any polling. NY_20th Jun 2018 #68
Primries are rarely polled... brooklynite Jun 2018 #94
She should endorse NOTHING. I can't even listen to the tylenol commercial let alone buy it Trek4Truth Jun 2018 #64
Astrid Silva on susan sarandon and donnie lil hands Cha Jun 2018 #66
Whoa! Silva delivered the "goods" on Sarandon. oasis Jun 2018 #78
Yes, Astrid did Exaclty! Cha Jun 2018 #82
"if you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem" oasis Jun 2018 #83
Just donated to Joe Crowley. NBachers Jun 2018 #80
Miss Sarandon should consider joining a mental-health collective Speaker to the Yanks Jun 2018 #86
That figures. ucrdem Jun 2018 #89
Hillary warned us this exactly would happen and you said Trump was better. You helped cause this.. Cha Jun 2018 #90
Sarandon is trash. She encouraged people NOT to vote for the Democratic nominee in 2016, said still_one Jun 2018 #91
Poor Ocasio. The kiss of death. nt NCTraveler Jun 2018 #101
Whatever/whoever Sarandon endorses, I would do the exact opposite. n/t Tarheel_Dem Jun 2018 #109
SLUT! AnnieBW Jun 2018 #111
Sarandon's support didn't hurt her.. nt Raine Jun 2018 #112
 

JCanete

(5,272 posts)
34. no it is not...that is a really stupid reason. Please, just look at the two candidates and vote for
Sun Jun 24, 2018, 02:34 PM
Jun 2018

the better one. Good lord.

Demsrule86

(68,696 posts)
42. No...she endorsed him...I wouldn't vote for him in a primary...however I don't live there.
Sun Jun 24, 2018, 02:59 PM
Jun 2018

Given that the house is on fire...primarying sitting Democrats is a foolish waste of time and money. Save the money to go after Republican held seats...if we don't take the house, we are screwed. And if he is with John Lewis...good enough for me. Fuck you Susan, the day I listen to one word from your heartless brainless self is the day hell freezes over.

brush

(53,876 posts)
58. Didn't Surandon route for trump so the revolution would come sooner?
Sun Jun 24, 2018, 10:39 PM
Jun 2018

And you're willing to go with someone she endorses OVER A SITTING DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATE?

Puh-l-e-e-e-e-z-e!

Why would we want to make the repug candidate's chances better?

 

JCanete

(5,272 posts)
85. I'm willing to let democratic primaries be democratic primaries. People aren't anointed. They are
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 02:00 AM
Jun 2018

elected. Since most of us see the danger of voting outside of the two-party system in the GE, this is the way things should be done in an effort to give us all a voice in who we elect. Sure, Sarandon has decided on numerous occasions not to support the democratic candidate in favor of a green party candidate. If she herself were up for election and you cited that as a reason for not voting for her, that would at least make a modicum of sense. But she is not the candidate in question here. To make up your mind on such a scant aspect of the whole is ridiculous.

And who says this makes the republicans chances better. There is no basis for that assertion. If Crowley is popular with his base he will win, if he is less popular than his challenger, then his challenger should probably be the one in the GE.

WhiteTara

(29,722 posts)
5. Well, now I'm on Crowley's side.
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 03:15 PM
Jun 2018

I was confused and now I know why Nancy stood at his side. Now if only he'll have her back.

 

NY_20th

(1,028 posts)
6. I was staying neutral,
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 03:20 PM
Jun 2018

as I hoped Ocasio Cortez would have a bright political future, but this shows horrible judgement on her part.

oasis

(49,410 posts)
16. Susan thought nothing of giving Dolores Huerta an earful
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 12:46 AM
Jun 2018

a few years back. Huerta co-founded UFW with Cesar Chavez. Sarandon was all up in the elderly woman's face because she didn't back the candidate of her choice.

oasis

(49,410 posts)
21. I saw Huerta's interview. She's still going strong.
Sun Jun 24, 2018, 12:02 PM
Jun 2018

She has extensive knowledge about the issues that affect the working poor by virtue of her decades long connections with those communities.

Sarandon should just butt out and get lost.

oasis

(49,410 posts)
53. And Sarandon had the nerve to lecture such an icon.
Sun Jun 24, 2018, 10:03 PM
Jun 2018

She should never be allowed to erase the memory of her blatant disrespect of this national treasure.

oasis

(49,410 posts)
75. Way back
Sun Jun 24, 2018, 11:50 PM
Jun 2018

in 2003/2004 when we were kicking back at Opihimoimoi's fishpond w/ Kamaaina and my wifey, who knew that our nation would be in this state of affairs?

I never give up hope that America will recover.

mahina

(17,705 posts)
84. Never give up. Same here. But we thought W was the worst!
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 01:45 AM
Jun 2018

Aloha oe to your wife, and all the crew, here and gone.

TeamPooka

(24,259 posts)
22. Saradon is campaigning against a current Democratic office holder.
Sun Jun 24, 2018, 12:04 PM
Jun 2018

I would expect nothing less of her ilk.

H2O Man

(73,622 posts)
97. Interesting.
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 10:09 AM
Jun 2018

I would think issues involving the candidates should be the deciding factor, in both primary and general elections. I'll add that, in my humble opinion, those who would vote either for or against a candidate based solely upon what SS thinks are in the same boat, simply rowing in opposite directions. Maybe it's just me, but I do not consider her a factor in any way.

Me.

(35,454 posts)
98. I Would Say
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 10:17 AM
Jun 2018

ThaT if SS is attracted to this candidate it sends up a red flag to me, especially considering the pattern of her endorsements in the past. My issue with Crowley is his lack of support for Nancy Pelosi, not a policy one though I think he should've shown up for the debate.

H2O Man

(73,622 posts)
99. Okay.
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 10:25 AM
Jun 2018

Is it equally important to consider who is supporting Crowley, in terms of financial contributions? For example, if corporations have a history of contributing to him, and those contributions have influenced his voting record?

H2O Man

(73,622 posts)
102. I agree 100%.
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 10:35 AM
Jun 2018

(Which isn't surprising.)

Campaign financing is a huge issue for me. I prefer grass roots' financing, rather than corporations buying elections. It would seem to be something that our party should be focusing on. We need politicians who represent people, rather than corporations.

Autumn

(45,120 posts)
113. She cinched the nomination with just $600,000 cash on hand,
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 09:39 AM
Jun 2018

compared with Crowley's $3 million. I think that may just show the message can beat campaign money. I'm giddy this morning that she won.

H2O Man

(73,622 posts)
114. It's the best news
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 12:15 PM
Jun 2018

that we could ask for. Though I'm in upstate NY, and not the 14th, I am so happy!

Demsrule86

(68,696 posts)
38. I want nothing from her and a Democrat already has the seat;this year it dumb to primary Democrats
Sun Jun 24, 2018, 02:39 PM
Jun 2018

She can go to hell...if I lived in New York...I would never vote for any Democrat in a primary she endorsed. Incumbents have an advantage. I can't stand her.

aikoaiko

(34,184 posts)
48. This seat will go to a D no matter who the candidate is.
Sun Jun 24, 2018, 04:01 PM
Jun 2018


This is a great opportunity to bring in a new face with new energy into the House if the people of the district will it.

Crowley will probably win, but this is what democracy looks like.


brush

(53,876 posts)
65. Effort is better spent on helping Dems in other districts against...
Sun Jun 24, 2018, 10:59 PM
Jun 2018

repugs instead of trying to defeat a fellow Dem n a blue district wouldn't you say, to make sure we take back the House and and negate trump's agenda?

Let's not waste our effort needlessly.

Demsrule86

(68,696 posts)
76. And you think spending money on a safe seat when we desperately need to win the House is good idea?
Sun Jun 24, 2018, 11:51 PM
Jun 2018

aikoaiko

(34,184 posts)
103. Frankly, yes. We complain a lot about needing young blood with fresh ideas.
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 10:43 AM
Jun 2018

This is an opportunity. Crowley will probably win and I'm happy to let the voters decide.

That's what democracy looks like.

Demsrule86

(68,696 posts)
106. Not this year...this year we need warm bodies and spending on Democratic held seats is money that
Tue Jun 26, 2018, 02:52 PM
Jun 2018

could be used to get a warm body for a GOP area. I would bet money now that Sarandon and OR have endorsed this person...she will lose.

Tom Rinaldo

(22,913 posts)
52. Geeze, stop being so knee jerk folks
Sun Jun 24, 2018, 10:03 PM
Jun 2018

If Sarandon should endorse Kamala Harris for President will people be unable to support Harris also as a result?

I'm not trying to defend Sarandon for anything, but it is essentially being played by her either way to automatically back or oppose anyone simply based on what Sarandon does.

Yes this is a primary against a Democratic incumbent, but it is also a very Democratic seat that we will not lose in November regardless of the primary outcome. If you like the incumbent by all means wire him some money,

brush

(53,876 posts)
67. A queston for you: Why waste the effort and funds trying to defeat...
Sun Jun 24, 2018, 11:05 PM
Jun 2018

an incumbent Dem when that money and work could be spent helping a Dem win in a not so blue district?

Let's be clear and think clearly. Surandon backed Nader and trump once Sanders lost the primary.

The fact that Ocasio let that witch anywhere near his campaign shows a lack of good judgment.

Tom Rinaldo

(22,913 posts)
88. "Her campaign", not his. Ocasio is a she.
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 03:10 AM
Jun 2018

The fact that you don't know that shows that you don't know much about this particular primary race, let alone Ocasio. "All that money and work" doesn't just sit inside some kind of joint checking account that can just as easily be drawn upon for some other Democratic race - Ocasio has local supporters who are motivated to back her specifically inside their own district.


By the way it is a myth that Sarandon ever actually backed Trump. However I definitely understand that her refusal to back Hillary in the General was helpful to Trump.

"Susan Sarandon set off a media firestorm last week by suggesting she'd vote for Donald Trump over Hillary Clinton.
The only problem: Sarandon, an avowed Bernie Sanders supporter, never actually said she'd support Trump."
http://www.newsweek.com/celebrities-tell-us-why-theyre-voting-donald-trump-or-not-aaron-carter-chingy-442673

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3515644/That-s-not-said-Susan-Sarandon-clarifies-never-vote-Donald-Trump.html

brush

(53,876 posts)
95. You're right I didn't know Ocasio was a she but I do know that...
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 08:34 AM
Jun 2018

she's running against an incumbent Dem with the backing of Susan fucking Surandon.

Nothing else but WTF needs to be said in this toxic, need-to-neutralize-trump era.

 

NY_20th

(1,028 posts)
73. Sarandon would never endorse Kamala.
Sun Jun 24, 2018, 11:46 PM
Jun 2018

C'mon, you have to realize that Sarandon is not popular with Democrats based on her hostility towards the party.

Nader was one thing, Trump is a whole other.

Tom Rinaldo

(22,913 posts)
87. Of course I realize Sarandon is not popular with Democrats. But she endorsed Obama in 2008
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 02:53 AM
Jun 2018

It is not that far fetched that she could endorse Harris in 2020.

List of 2008 Obama endorsers.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Barack_Obama_presidential_campaign_endorsements,_2008

She was critical of, but still supported, Obama in 2012 as well:

"Current TV host Joy Behar asked the outspoken liberal actress for her take on the leaked Romney footage from a May fundraiser in which he says that "47 percent" of the electorate is "dependent upon government" and will vote for President Barack Obama "no matter what."
https://www.politico.com/blogs/click/2012/09/susan-sarandon-mitt-romneys-so-entertaining-135943

Again, as I wrote originally, I am not defending her or her actions. But it is crazy to simply vote against everyone who she votes for.

Tom Rinaldo

(22,913 posts)
96. Can I take it that you now oppose primary opponents for any incumbent Democrats?
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 09:59 AM
Jun 2018

Strictly in primaries of course, not running against a Democrat in the general....

Right now we have a functional one party system - the Democratic Party, Republicans do not offer a functional alternative for sane people. I do not believe that incumbency equates with a free pass to be nominated for life inside a safely Democratic district. In my own county our Democratic Party at convention just chose not to renominate our sitting Democratic Sheriff for reelection by a vote o f85 to 15%. He is forcing a primary fight as is his right.

brooklynite

(94,741 posts)
104. In 2018, I oppose burning time and money running against Democrats...
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 11:14 AM
Jun 2018

...a dollar or hour spent running against a Democrat is a dollar or hour not available to run against a Republican.

honest.abe

(8,685 posts)
59. SS is an ignorant arrogant fool.
Sun Jun 24, 2018, 10:46 PM
Jun 2018

Given her track record, I would suggest doing the exact opposite of whatever/whoever she endorses.

 

NY_20th

(1,028 posts)
68. I don't believe there has been any polling.
Sun Jun 24, 2018, 11:11 PM
Jun 2018

It's pretty much expected that Crowley will win.

What's going good for her is that turnout will most likely be low as this is a very blue district that will stay blue, and the WFP is good at getting out their vote.

brooklynite

(94,741 posts)
94. Primries are rarely polled...
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 08:07 AM
Jun 2018

...unless they're seen as being close. I will observe that Crowley has 10x cash on hand, which suggests a more robust ground game is likely.

 

Trek4Truth

(515 posts)
64. She should endorse NOTHING. I can't even listen to the tylenol commercial let alone buy it
Sun Jun 24, 2018, 10:58 PM
Jun 2018

because of her.

oasis

(49,410 posts)
78. Whoa! Silva delivered the "goods" on Sarandon.
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 12:03 AM
Jun 2018

Thanks Cha, for bringing it out

Meanwhile, Susan Sarandon needs to fold up her tent and go quietly into the night.

Cha

(297,705 posts)
82. Yes, Astrid did Exaclty!
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 12:48 AM
Jun 2018

And, I'm frustrated because her tweet was swarmed by a bunch of brainwashed sarandonfans.. I can't wait to join twitter some day and be able to explain to them that SS LIED and encouraged her sappy fans that Hillary was worse that trump. That's Why she has a stigma on her head for being part of the great Russian Enablers for trump.

Yeah, I wish she would get shamed.. Oacasio now has a national LIAR in her corner.

SS was already Lying and whining about "..her peers shunned her because of her activism.." which is a damn LIE. They're shunning her 'cause she LIES her sorry head OFF.

oasis

oasis

(49,410 posts)
83. "if you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem"
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 01:17 AM
Jun 2018

Sarandon's clumsy interference cost Hillary votes. Bottom line.

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
89. That figures.
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 03:20 AM
Jun 2018

Someone posted an Occasio video and kept gushing about her policies. But other than "free college and medicare for all" she didn't have any. Basically no there there. She did have better hair than Crowley, however. I'll give her that.

still_one

(92,419 posts)
91. Sarandon is trash. She encouraged people NOT to vote for the Democratic nominee in 2016, said
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 07:54 AM
Jun 2018

that trump was better than the Democratic nominee, and did everything in 2016 to undermine and discourage people to vote Democratic party.


This is the same piece of garbage who in 2000 was part of a rally telling the participants that a "vote for Gore is a vote for bush"

https://www.nytimes.com/2000/10/15/us/the-2000-campaign-the-green-party-in-nader-supporters-math-gore-equals-bush.html

and that kept up all through 2000.

As far as I am concerned she can go to hell

AnnieBW

(10,459 posts)
111. SLUT!
Tue Jun 26, 2018, 10:57 PM
Jun 2018

I'm sorry. It's a trained reaction to the name "Susan Sarandon". Sorry to impugn actual sluts by comparing them to Susan Sarandon.

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