Trump's Ploy - By Josh Marshall

[kpete]

Last edited Wed Jun 20, 2018, 04:02 PM - Edit history (1)

The President says he’s signing an executive order to end family separations. The actual aim seems to be to pick a fight with the courts and allow separations to continue while blaming judges. According to The New York Times, the President will sign an executive order allowing children to be detained indefinitely with their parents. The problem is that that violates a 1997 consent decree saying that you can’t detain/imprison children for more than 20 days (technically what’s currently happening isn’t detention). It straight up violates that order. So what will almost inevitably happen is that a court will step in, say you can’t do that and then Trump will announce that the judge is forcing him to keep separating families.


https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/trumps-ploy




UPDATED From TPM:

Though Trump announced Wednesday that his new policy would “keep families together,” the actual text of the executive order gives the administration plenty of wiggle room, saying they would only work to keep families together “where appropriate and consistent with law and available resources.”

And while the families currently being held are under the jurisdiction either of Homeland Security or the Department of Health and Human Services’ Office of Refugee Resettlement, the executive order directs the Defense Department to turn over “any existing facilities available for the housing and care of alien families, and… construct such facilities if necessary and consistent with law.”

Later in the executive order is a provision that could roll back longstanding protections for children in federal custody. The text directs Attorney General Jeff Sessions to ask federal courts to modify a decades-old ruling that bars the detention of children by immigration authorities for longer than 20 days. The administration will now ask courts for permission “to detain alien families together throughout the pendency of criminal proceedings for improper entry or any removal or other immigration proceedings” with no set time limit.

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More:
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/trump-signs-order-to-keep-migrant-families-detained-together-indefinitely

[DemocratSinceBirth]

1. Somebody with standing would have to challenge his order first.

[lagomorph777]

6. Avenatti with his new clients?

[Snellius]

2. Spot on

If you carry this further, this will be the end of Trump and most of the Republican Party. The fury unleashed seems to have surprised even the right-wing media. People are mad. Not because they're Democrats but because they hate Trump. And they hate Trump not because they're angry. They're angry because he's Trump. Poll numbers only measure numbers, not intensity. Apres Trump, le deluge.

[lagomorph777]

7. I believe you're right. Americans are better than this; we are furious to be labeled as kidnappers.

And we will not stand for it. The RePutins have mortally wounded themselves.

[Snellius]

10. Like the flood of anger Watergate opened after the years of frustration in Vietnam

Great scandals can only be understand in their wider context. It wasn't just the Watergate lies that toppled Nixon but the years of bullshit that got so many killed in Vietnam. Finally Trump's fake world of ego and heartlessness found its perfect storm.

[lagomorph777]

11. Tipping point

[lunatica]

9. This may be our second antebellum

Hopefully the coming second civil war will be mostly contained to non life threatening weapons, such as the courts, Legislature, and whatever people power we have as citizens. But there have been lives lost, in our schools and police brutality killings, for example. All part and parcel of our real national struggle with each other.

[Snellius]

12. Even the right-wing yahoos can see the emperor now has no clothes (yucky metaphor)

It's interesting to cruise the usual ass-kissing gruppen (Drudge, Fox, ...). They're at a lose defending the loser. Trump: weak, stupid, feckless. Sad

[olegramps]

14. The end of the Republican Party would be the triumph of righteousness over evil.

The Republican Party is the party of fascist evil bastards. Each and everyone has a reserved place in the depths of hell.

[Snellius]

17. The Nazis committed their worst atrocities when they knew they were going to lose

The more they realized their crimes were likely to be exposed the more fanatically they defended them. Fighting to the death was bettter than what they knew would be the revenge.

[Solly Mack]

3. The House GOP bill on immigration - the one with the "compromise" (from last week)

contains language that would end up with families being held together indefinitely. The conditions in the bill make the holding of families indefinitely possible - it doesn't outright say it.

What Trump is proposing now - indefinite detention.

The rest of the GOP is right there with him.



https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/6/15/17467490/children-separated-parents-bill-congress

[suffragette]

4. Some Republicans in Texas tried to create this law on behalf of GEO incarceration Group last year.

So what Trump is signing would be what other Republicans tried to codify, but couldn’t, on behalf of their big donors. Big donor for him, too.

He is still viewing this crisis he and his created as an opportunity to implement what they have wanted all along.

From an earlier post I made:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210750136

In May 2017, Newsweek reported on bill that GEO pushed to change law to be able to detain immigrant children indefinitely

http://www.newsweek.com/geo-group-private-prisons-immigration-detention-trump-596505

PRIVATE PRISON COMPANY GEO GROUP GAVE GENEROUSLY TO TRUMP AND NOW HAS LUCRATIVE CONTRACT

Within the Texas legislature, a controversial bill is pending. A private prisons company called the GEO Group has allegedly asked Republicans to submit a law that could lead to immigrant children being indefinitely detained in its lucrative centers.

Representatives John Raney, John Cyrier and Mark Keough—all Republicans—have authored legislation that, if passed, would allow immigration detention centers to obtain child care licenses. Equipped with the permits, the centers would then be able to circumvent a 2015 federal ruling that said detained immigrant children must be transferred to a child care facility after 20 days in detention.

Raney, Cyrier and Keough’s bill would not require the detention centers to change their setups, but it could significantly benefit them. The GEO Group, which runs the Karnes Residential Center—one of two family detention facilities in Texas—earns $55 million annually from the facility. At present, just 100 of its 830 beds are occupied, according to the Associated Press.

This perhaps explains why the GEO Group—despite having a Greek immigrant, George Zoley as its CEO—is so keen to see Raney, Cyrier and Keough’s bill pass. So keen, in fact, that the organization essentially wrote it. “I’ve known the lady who's [the GEO Group’s] lobbyist for a long time,” Raney told the Associated Press. That's where the legislation came from. We don't make things up. People bring things to us and ask us to help.”

[Mc Mike]

15. Follow the money.

[lunatica]

5. We're finally getting Trump's modus operandi

It actually didn’t take all that long, although for those of us who already knew this it seems like forever!

[peggysue2]

8. Interesting angle

As I said earlier today, the Hollow Men are merely fixing the machines in the Monster Factory. A tune-up of sorts. Josh Marshall is pretty savvy and offers the specifics.

We ought to keep this prediction in mind as things roll out.

[orangecrush]

13. I wish Ted Kennedy were alive

He would have generated an uproar that would have blown Trump's wig off his head.

[bucolic_frolic]

16. This Executive Order is a sham. By not ending zero tolerance

Link to tweet

This Executive Order is a sham. By not ending zero tolerance, President Trump is keeping families in jail. Children in jail. All he’s done is trade one form of child abuse for another.

[Snellius]

18. Even the DOJ knows it's illegal

Trump was actually right about not being able to do anything and having to change the law but the law says that the govt has to treat detained children with human decency and not prisoners. Good luck passing that bill. Trump has been caught in his own trap. And he knows it.

[Vinnie From Indy]

19. Tuned into Rush for a few mintes this afternoon and he said the same thing

They must have a plan to try and flip the blame to Democrats.