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sunonmars

(8,656 posts)
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 12:44 PM Jun 2018

NYT: Trump Plans Executive Order to Allow Detaining Families Together INDEFINITELY

WHOA, HANG ON A MINUTE......INDEFINITELY







Trump preparing to issue an executive order as soon as today to end the separation of families at the border by indefinitely detaining parents and children together. ⁦@maggieNYT⁩ ⁦@shearm⁩

NYT: Trump Plans Executive Order to Allow Detaining Families Together Indefinitely


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I told you, he is planning some other shit.......holding people indefinitely.
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Zoonart

(11,879 posts)
1. The contracts for these camps were signed in September 2017 and run through 2022.
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 12:46 PM
Jun 2018

Someone has to fill those beds. There is money to be made.

Demsrule86

(68,696 posts)
4. He can't do that. There is a Bush era law that forbids it... he can't use an EA to flout a law.
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 12:47 PM
Jun 2018

He can try to get the Dems to cave but I hear that is why they refused to come to the table.

Corgigal

(9,291 posts)
5. While we're at it
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 12:49 PM
Jun 2018

How much is this going to cost? We can't afford this shit. Racist white people got to pay more in taxes then.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
6. He knows the immigration courts are full
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 12:50 PM
Jun 2018

Better to let them out to work then this cost of maintaining - oh wait, how dumb of me. His buddies have to make $$ on the privatized contracts.

Thomas Hurt

(13,903 posts)
7. got to keep that taxpayer money flowing to his cronies...
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 12:52 PM
Jun 2018

you notice how in practice, the Pig doesn't want to keep them out as much as he wants to make a buck off their misery.

Freethinker65

(10,061 posts)
8. Could be a punctuation or grammatical error in the proposed EO.
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 12:53 PM
Jun 2018

Perhaps having someone competent draft the EO would be helpful. Is there anyone competent left in Trump's WH Administration?

Solly Mack

(90,787 posts)
10. SCOTUS ruled in February of this year that they can held indefinitely.
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 01:03 PM
Jun 2018
http://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/375791-supreme-court-rules-immigrants-can-be-detained-indefinitely

Immigrants can be held by U.S. immigration officials indefinitely without receiving bond hearings, even if they have permanent legal status or are seeking asylum, the Supreme Court ruled Tuesday.




https://www.npr.org/2018/02/27/589096901/supreme-court-ruling-means-immigrants-can-continue-to-be-detained-indefinitely

The U.S. Supreme Court ruled Tuesday that immigrants, even those with permanent legal status and asylum seekers, do not have the right to periodic bond hearings.

It's a profound loss for those immigrants appealing what are sometimes indefinite detentions by the government. Many are held for long periods of time — on average, 13 months — after being picked up for things as minor as joyriding. Some are held even longer.

The case, Jennings v. Rodriguez, has implications for legal permanent residents whom the government wants to deport because they committed crimes and for asylum seekers who are awaiting a court date after turning themselves in at the border. Immigrant advocates contend that many of these immigrants have a right to be free on bail until their case is heard.


But the court wrote in its 5-3 opinion Tuesday, "Immigration officials are authorized to detain certain aliens in the course of immigration proceedings while they determine whether those aliens may be lawfully present in the country."

Solly Mack

(90,787 posts)
12. America seems to like indefinite detention
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 01:10 PM
Jun 2018

We practice it at GTMO and we practice it on the border.

We even practice a form of it in the courts. Can't pay a fine - go to jail. Charge you while you're in jail for upkeep. Still can't pay the ever increasing fines? Stay in jail.

Jail Time For Unpaid Court Fines And Fees Can Create Cycle Of Poverty

https://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2015/02/09/384968360/jail-time-for-unpaid-court-fines-and-fees-can-create-cycle-of-poverty

Supreme Court Ruling Not Enough To Prevent Debtors Prisons
https://www.npr.org/2014/05/21/313118629/supreme-court-ruling-not-enough-to-prevent-debtors-prisons

LeftInTX

(25,567 posts)
13. Believe it or not the new Texas GOP platform wants to abolish debtor prisons.
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 01:32 PM
Jun 2018

I was stunned...

Since the GOP controls Texas, maybe it will happen.

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