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to explain the kinderkampen.
Link to tweet
We may pull out of the UN Human Rights groups. Hell, with Bolten in charge, we may pull out of the UN. But we can still be made pariahs.
Moostache
(9,897 posts)This government is an international criminal cabal, NOT a representation of the United States of America...
The international community should spurn the USA until the government is returned to sanity and basic human decency.
bdamomma
(63,917 posts)kick us to the curb, or better yet how is any different from what Bashar al-Assad (Syria) has done to his own people and who is to say it won't be done to the citizens of this country. We can already see anyone who worships tRump is in his good graces anyone who is against him will be condemned, such as liberals, gays, women. minorities which is already happening.
Or maybe will Kim Kardashian come to the rescue of these children and parents who are being separated.
Paladin
(28,269 posts)Present-day Dutch is close enough to Nazi-era German for our fight against the trump regime.
lapfog_1
(29,218 posts)Russia will abstain.
We will be estranged from much of the the world economy.
RockRaven
(14,985 posts)Human rights abusers should be international pariahs, and pay the price for it.
Zoonart
(11,875 posts)lunatica
(53,410 posts)Implementing sanctions on us probably wont work because we can survive quite well if we have to, but sanctioning Trump et al would hurt him and his family. Prosecuting him as a criminal against humanity would be possible. The world should make this personal. Most Americans probably have.
DetroitLegalBeagle
(1,925 posts)We refused to ratify the Rome Statute and have laws on the books that bars any cooperation with them in at any level with most matters(the Nethercutt amendment). Further, the Military is legally obligated to rescue any US or allied personnel held by the ICC(Armed Service Members Protection Act).
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)And they should.
MarcA
(2,195 posts)and what if some other nation's personnel is held by the U.S.
and they are required to rescue them. That could make for
some interesting situations.
I was wondering that myself, if they pull out of the UN Human Rights Commission can they get the thugs?
NBachers
(17,133 posts)RestoreAmerica2020
(3,438 posts)...sanctioned, censured and or be charged for crimes against humanity.
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)when they started the Disappearing.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)Trump is the one who started this shit.
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)short order. Yesterday's admissions by Roger Stone and Caputo as to their direct involvement with Russia,seems to be driving the Trump Crime Syndicate's PR message today.
This whole Immigration Story is fodder for the Mid Terms. It worked for them in 2016 and the GOP Strategists are doubling down with the help of the Russian/Mercer Bot network.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)Through a little bit. Trump with his extremely limited imagination and vision pompously believed he was putting the Democrats in such a terrible position that in their weakness they would cave to his demands. You know, the art of the deal thing. He believed the Democrats would come crawling to him to stop the childs abuse.
Trumpss idea of a deal is to break his opposition and destroy it, coming out the only winner.
On a different note I see youre a Teamster. So am I! I love my union! They improved my life and because of them I was able to retire instead of working for the next 10 years. That is if I was allowed to work until I turn 80.
Solly Mack
(90,779 posts)BannonsLiver
(16,434 posts)Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)world wide wally
(21,751 posts)I wish we were still part of that world.
bdamomma
(63,917 posts)one. Putin is keeping quiet isn't he??? fucking AH.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)A good Dutch friend of mine told me yesterday, our only hope is STORMY !!
oasis
(49,398 posts)C_U_L8R
(45,014 posts)We deserve all the shaming and sanctions that come our way.
DFW
(54,428 posts)They should declare him persona non grata, send him home, and admonish the State Department (or, rather, what's left of it) to send a real diplomat, or send no one.
I am in the Netherlands almost every week for work. I speak Dutch, and get along well with everyone I work with and otherwise deal with. I don't attend state dinners or meet with the royal family or the foreign ministry, but I dare say I do the USA a hell of a lot more good in the Netherlands than the clown Trump appointed to "represent" us there.
lunasun
(21,646 posts)since it's happening overseas ?
DFW
(54,428 posts)Fortunately, also the massive internal opposition to it.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)I hadn't heard anything about our ambassador to Germany since earlier in the month. Is he still agitating for a far right resurgence, expected to be on his way home soon, ... ?
DFW
(54,428 posts)It is entirely possible he was advised to crawl under the nearest rock and not come out until he developed laryngitis. That would have been good advice, anyway. Being a Republican, whether or not he took it is another matter entirely.
Republican political appointees to ambassadorial posts have a history of being obtuse and annoying.
A good friend of mine was Canada's ambassador to the USA during Bill Clinton's last term. After Clinton left office, my friend finished up his long career in the Canadian foreign service as their ambassador to France (he is from Québec). Now, the residence of the Canadian ambassador in Paris some amazing kind of "house." It is an incredible building, more like an urban castle the Canadians had the good sense to buy up for a song at the end of World War II. In the living room/reception area, there is a long grand piano, upon which my friend had photos of him and the heads of state he had served under, from scoundrels like Mobutu of Zaire all the way to Bill Clinton.
When he met the new American ambassador to France, some idiot political appointee hack who was a Texan friend of Bush Lite, the guy's wife started nagging him about why there wasn't a photo of him with GW Bush. Raymond patiently tried to explain that he had not served as Ambassador while Bush was in office, and therefore there was no photo of him. The stupid woman didn't get it at all, and kept pestering him until one day when Bush was visiting Paris (probably thought it was Montréal), she arranged for a photo of Raymond and Bush together, which he put on the piano whenever Bush's ambassador was coming over, so he wouldn't have to listen to the guy's wife's pestering all over again. Republicans are like that.
lunasun
(21,646 posts)by ostracizing the US can make a change
spanone
(135,857 posts)OnDoutside
(19,965 posts)Amaryllis
(9,525 posts)Cha
(297,497 posts)in the world!
Mahalo, deminks