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H2O Man

(73,537 posts)
Mon Jun 18, 2018, 11:29 AM Jun 2018

Back to the Garden

Matthew 18:1-7 : At that time the disciples came to Jesus and asked, "Who, then, is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven?" He called a little child to him, and placed the child among them. And he said: "Truly I tell you, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven. Therefore, whoever takes the lowly position of this child is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven. And whoever welcomes one such child in my name welcomes me. If anyone causes one of these little ones-those who believe in me-to stumble, it would be better for them to have a large millstone hung around their neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea.”


At this point in my life, I generally try not to refer to, or quote, religious and/or esoteric texts to make political points. But when I see people from the Trump administration attempt to justify their evil behaviors by quoting the bible, I feel that I can – perhaps, must – make an exception. I'll try to keep this brief, which isn't my usual style, either. For I can discuss religion and spirituality for hours on end. But I try to do that only while talking to myself.

I found Session's pathetic attempt to use the exact quote that was used to “justify” slavery in this country offensive. It is a common practice, of course, for those of little understanding to try to apply “higher teachings” to “lower actions.” I'll end by noting that, while in the garden shortly before his “legal” trial and death, the prophet Jesus called this error “Satan.”

I could, of course, go on and on. In fact, I will ….but in a conversation with myself, as I do some chores out in my garden.

Peace,
H2O Man

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Back to the Garden (Original Post) H2O Man Jun 2018 OP
K&R Me. Jun 2018 #1
Thanks, Me. H2O Man Jun 2018 #5
I will help you carry them, and help you coeur_de_lion Jun 2018 #24
The RW has many "Biblical scholars" who spend their time... Wounded Bear Jun 2018 #2
Exactly. H2O Man Jun 2018 #7
I weed my garden when I'm angry or upset too. Solly Mack Jun 2018 #3
Nothing like it! H2O Man Jun 2018 #9
I replay conversations as well. I also talk to the wildlife. Solly Mack Jun 2018 #14
A large doe H2O Man Jun 2018 #18
Sounds lovely and peaceful. Solly Mack Jun 2018 #19
You do paint a lovely picture coeur_de_lion Jun 2018 #25
K & R democrank Jun 2018 #4
Thanks, democrank! H2O Man Jun 2018 #10
This malaise Jun 2018 #6
You know? H2O Man Jun 2018 #11
A vile pro-slavery malaise Jun 2018 #12
It is accurate H2O Man Jun 2018 #15
Indeed - you know I am convinced that Obama's success brought out the worst in them malaise Jun 2018 #17
Be careful in the heat. pwb Jun 2018 #8
Right. H2O Man Jun 2018 #13
Good post, and glad you have a garden to turn to. Hortensis Jun 2018 #16
Thank you! H2O Man Jun 2018 #20
The Garden. One of my favorite songs for you, H20 Man. Hi! ms liberty Jun 2018 #21
Thank you! H2O Man Jun 2018 #26
The millstone passage came to me too; I suggested Trump, Sessions & Miller just skip ... Hekate Jun 2018 #22
Right. H2O Man Jun 2018 #27
Children are just like gardens lunatica Jun 2018 #23
You nailed it. H2O Man Jun 2018 #28
A garden is a learning experience for every age. kentuck Jun 2018 #29

H2O Man

(73,537 posts)
5. Thanks, Me.
Mon Jun 18, 2018, 11:34 AM
Jun 2018

I have a few old millstones that I've found in the creek here, that date back to the mills on the waterfalls from the 1800s. I have them in my flower gardens. As much as I like them, I suppose that I'd be willing to donate them to a good cause.

coeur_de_lion

(3,676 posts)
24. I will help you carry them, and help you
Mon Jun 18, 2018, 04:29 PM
Jun 2018

put them around the necks of Fredo and Miller. And whoever else needs to go down after this deplorable policy.

This policy is killing me more than all the other awful things Fredo has done.

Its as if he wants to push through the worst possible shit before Mueller takes him out at the knees.

Does he know his time in office is limited?

Thanks for the reminder H to get outside and clear my head. I'm going to sit out on my screen porch and meditate.

Right now I am watching LBJ on Netflix. It's good. And it's helpful to remember how dark things were then, right after we lost JFK to assassins. It was hard but we got over it.

We will this time too.

Wounded Bear

(58,654 posts)
2. The RW has many "Biblical scholars" who spend their time...
Mon Jun 18, 2018, 11:33 AM
Jun 2018

mining the scripture for verses to justify their evil.

And they have millions of followers, most of whom are too lazy or don't have time to read said scriptures, who take their words as gospel and are complicit in all manner of evil.

Solly Mack

(90,766 posts)
3. I weed my garden when I'm angry or upset too.
Mon Jun 18, 2018, 11:34 AM
Jun 2018


After weeding, I nurture my garden and gain some perspective.

Weeding is a task - giving the garden some love is good for the garden - and for me.

H2O Man

(73,537 posts)
9. Nothing like it!
Mon Jun 18, 2018, 11:39 AM
Jun 2018

This year, while in my various flower & food gardens, I find myself remembering some wonderful conversations that Rubin and I had about the power of gardening. And he loved to discuss religion and spirituality -- especially in the context of human evolution.

My youngest daughter does most of the work. But since she's not out there now, I will feel comfortable talking to myself until I calm down.

Solly Mack

(90,766 posts)
14. I replay conversations as well. I also talk to the wildlife.
Mon Jun 18, 2018, 11:44 AM
Jun 2018

I sometimes envy them their wings.

I hurt all over after - but I feel better.

H2O Man

(73,537 posts)
18. A large doe
Mon Jun 18, 2018, 11:55 AM
Jun 2018

was trimming one of my apple trees this morning as I walked out to the edge of my lawn. Just beautiful!

Every day, two gray fox take turns coming onto my lawn -- at least twice daily for each -- for a meal of cat or dog food, or "left-overs" from the fridge. The female is getting plump again, and will have kits soon.

My daughter's pet rabbit (which hangs out with the cats) has found a wild rabbit she favors. Hence, two new generations of rabbits inhabit our lawn.

I love the birds, the toads, and especially listening to the frogs at night, while watching the fire-flies. My daughter built a wonderful fire pit not far from the main garden, and we enjoy cooking out evenings.

coeur_de_lion

(3,676 posts)
25. You do paint a lovely picture
Mon Jun 18, 2018, 04:41 PM
Jun 2018

I'm so glad you have a peaceful place and lots of exposure to nature to help you stabilize no matter how rocky it gets.

It is a little warmer here in FL and we're not quite as rural as you are, though this is a very small rural town.

I love to sit out on our big old screen porch and watch the squirrels and birds play. It's heaven.

Then I'll meditate for 10-15 minutes and imagine things as they should be, not as they are. Like Bobby Kennedy said.

During a time like this I am so grateful for you, since your level headed and moving essays help keep me grounded.

malaise

(268,997 posts)
6. This
Mon Jun 18, 2018, 11:34 AM
Jun 2018

I found Session's pathetic attempt to use the exact quote that was used to “justify” slavery in this country offensive.

H2O Man

(73,537 posts)
15. It is accurate
Mon Jun 18, 2018, 11:45 AM
Jun 2018

to say that Sessions does not believe that non-white people are human beings. And he misuses the bible to justify his rabid form of social Darwinism.

malaise

(268,997 posts)
17. Indeed - you know I am convinced that Obama's success brought out the worst in them
Mon Jun 18, 2018, 11:50 AM
Jun 2018

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They are publicly racist these days.

Enjoy the garden - my glads will bloom in a few weeks.

pwb

(11,265 posts)
8. Be careful in the heat.
Mon Jun 18, 2018, 11:38 AM
Jun 2018

Hard to breath out here today. Great read about the least amongst us. Children. Thanks.

H2O Man

(73,537 posts)
13. Right.
Mon Jun 18, 2018, 11:43 AM
Jun 2018

I did some mowing earlier this morning. Drinking lots of water. (What else? Ha!)

Throughout human history, many of the men and women we recognized as enlightened have noted that status of children.

Hekate

(90,683 posts)
22. The millstone passage came to me too; I suggested Trump, Sessions & Miller just skip ...
Mon Jun 18, 2018, 02:12 PM
Jun 2018

...to the part where they tie a millstone around their necks and jump in the sea. On the basis that they are not the only ones who can quote the Bible.

Peace

H2O Man

(73,537 posts)
27. Right.
Tue Jun 19, 2018, 01:24 PM
Jun 2018

While I would donate my collection of local millstones for the good of our country, your idea is better.

The past few evenings, as I've watched the news, I've been reminded of something I heard often while dealing with cases involving domestic violence -- "Look what you made me do!" I think I'll expand upon that for another OP soon.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
23. Children are just like gardens
Mon Jun 18, 2018, 02:16 PM
Jun 2018

and as poetic as that may sound it’s absolutely a fact. They need constant daily attention, nurture and attention to their needs or they will never flourish.

H2O Man

(73,537 posts)
28. You nailed it.
Tue Jun 19, 2018, 01:26 PM
Jun 2018

That's it exactly, lunatic. That says it all, perfectly. Well done. Very well done, indeed!

kentuck

(111,094 posts)
29. A garden is a learning experience for every age.
Tue Jun 19, 2018, 01:30 PM
Jun 2018

There are lessons in every garden that are good for the soul.

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