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global1

(25,270 posts)
Mon Jun 18, 2018, 10:11 AM Jun 2018

This Is Not A Laughing Matter Anymore......

I don't want to turn on Colbert. Kimmel, Fallon, Meyers or Cordon tonight and have them making fun of Trump or his inhumane border policy. I want all of them to speak out against this policy and demand action from the American People.

Yes - comedy sometimes gets people's attention and makes them see the absurdity of Trump and his minions - but - this making fun of what is going on in our country perhaps now has gone too far. In some way some American People think what is going on is all fun and games and don't take the actions that are going on in Washington D.C. seriously. These late night hosts and comedians need to begin to use their nightly forum to really inform the people. Many people get their news only from these late night shows and because these hosts make light of things - as I said above - don't take things seriously. People avoid the news shows because it's depressing and they don't want to face reality.

Remember when Kimmel spoke out about health care - people started listening up. He caught the ear of the American People and calls went streaming into Congress.

Well now the same thing has to happen or we will laugh ourselves right out of a government and a democracy.

I like to laugh just as much as anybody - but I've reached a point where I can't laugh at what is going on in this country and how we've let the Repugs, Trump and Putin whittle away from our democracy on a day-to-day basis. It has slipped away too far now. We the American People must put a stop to this.

So if anyone from any of the late night shows is monitoring discussion here on DU - please get this message to the hosts of these programs to talk seriously to the American People.

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CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
2. What they do is satire, which has always been a strong weapon throughout history against
Mon Jun 18, 2018, 10:32 AM
Jun 2018

tyranny. I love Colbert, Seth Myers, Jimmy Fallon, et. al.

global1

(25,270 posts)
4. I Listen Every Night And DVR These Guys Just To Listen To Their Monologues....
Mon Jun 18, 2018, 11:16 AM
Jun 2018

I hear what you are saying about satire - but - many people out there don't get the satire message - it's pure entertainment for them and they never understand the seriousness of the issues these hosts are trying to spin as satire.

I again call your attention to Jimmy Kimmel - when he took on the Repugs with respect to health care. He approached that issue very seriously and because of that he got through to the People and Congress.

I'm just saying that what is going on with Trump and the Repugs has just gone too far. I said it in my OP and I'll say it here - It's not a laughing matter anymore.

I would like to see the hosts of these late night programs - make a serious appeal to the American People and Congress much like Kimmel did or we'll just laugh us out of our democracy and it will be too late.



CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
5. IIRC, wasn't Kimmel's situation with his young son's heart problem was what was at stake?
Mon Jun 18, 2018, 11:24 AM
Jun 2018

I still think that satire does its job eventually...it scathes...

And just the prospect that it irks the hell out of trump is enough for me to get satisfaction...

global1

(25,270 posts)
9. What's Your Point?.....
Mon Jun 18, 2018, 12:28 PM
Jun 2018

Yes - Kimmel's situation was with his young son's heart problem. Kimmel didn't make his appeal for his son. He made his appeal because others not as fortunate as he financially will suffer. His message broke through. Being serious - worked. All I'm asking for is to cool it with the comedy (satire as you call it) for awhile and get serious for a change. This is not a laughing matter anymore.

And furthermore - with Trump's twisted mind - I'm not sure it irks the hell out of him. He's from the school that any publicity - even if it's negative - works for him and helps him. He plays off of it and welcomes it. We fall for that everytime.

Solly Mack

(90,787 posts)
3. It hasn't been funny since he took office.
Mon Jun 18, 2018, 10:34 AM
Jun 2018

Nothing humorous about it at all.

It has only gotten more tragic.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
6. Well, it's the same matter it was months ago when it began.
Mon Jun 18, 2018, 11:31 AM
Jun 2018

A few posts here reporting what was planned and then starting to happen didn't get attention, even here.

But when "Colbert. Kimmel, Fallon, Meyers, Cordon" weighed in, joining their big voices with reports from the fourth estate, people learned they should be outraged, and began being outraged.

No accident that this coincided with a big upswing in the numbers of atrocities. Timing is a huge factor, and eventually everything came together for mass dissemination. Before then, people trying to alert were mostly just crying into the void.

The Government Has No Plan for Reuniting the Immigrant Families It Is Tearing Apart

A few days ago, Emily Kephart, a program coördinator at an immigrant-rights group called Kids in Need of Defense, set out to try to find a six-year-old Guatemalan girl who had been separated from her father after arriving in the United States, in May. The pair had been split up as a consequence of the Trump Administration’s zero-tolerance policy at the border, which calls for the criminal prosecution of all migrants, including asylum seekers, who cross the border without turning themselves in to officials at so-called ports of entry. Now the father was in an immigration-detention facility in Arizona awaiting deportation. He had no idea where his child was. Kephart was put on the case after the father called his family back in a small town outside of Huehuetenango City, in Guatemala’s western highlands, and then his family, in turn, contacted a local nonprofit that works with Kids in Need of Defense.

Every undocumented immigrant who enters government custody is assigned what’s called an alien number. But the girl’s family didn’t know hers. Armed only with the girl’s name and birth date, Kephart dialed a 1-800 hotline set up by the Office of Refugee Resettlement (O.R.R.), the federal body in charge of handling unaccompanied immigrant children. This hotline, Kephart told me, is difficult to access for parents who are in a detention facility (hold times can last half an hour; it’s impossible to leave a call-back number) or who have been deported (international calls are expensive, and 1-800 numbers don’t often work from abroad). “We hit a dead end,” Kephart said. “The person I spoke with just made a note in the file of the girl they thought it might be. But we didn’t get confirmation that we were talking about the same child. They were looking at the record of someone whose first name was spelled differently, and whose date of birth was a month off.” ... Eventually, Kephart tracked down a case manager at the second facility. “I told her, ‘Look, I have this situation. I think you have a girl there,’ ” Kephart told me. ‘“The case manager said, ‘Oh, my God, yes!’ The case manager had a kid whose parents she couldn’t find. She was trying to help, but she’d had nothing to go on.”

In the past two months, the government has taken some two thousand immigrant children away from their parents. Under the zero-tolerance policy, border crossers are arrested and charged with a crime before being placed in immigration detention. If they came with their children, the children are turned over to O.R.R. and treated as though they travelled to the U.S. alone. No protocols have been put in place for keeping track of parents and children concurrently, for keeping parents and children in contact with each other while they are separated, or for eventually reuniting them. Immigration lawyers, public defenders, and advocates along the border have been trying to fill the void.

Although the zero-tolerance policy was officially announced last month, it has been in effect, in more limited form, since at least last summer. Several months ago, as cases of family separation started surfacing across the country, immigrant-rights groups began calling for the Department of Homeland Security (D.H.S.), which is in charge of immigration enforcement and border security, to create procedures for tracking families after they are split up. At the time, D.H.S. said that it would address the problem, but there is no evidence that it actually did so. ...

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NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
8. Please understand how important what they are doing is. They are a part of building the narrative.
Mon Jun 18, 2018, 11:39 AM
Jun 2018

"I don't want to turn on Colbert. Kimmel, Fallon, Meyers or Cordon tonight and have them making fun of Trump or his inhumane border policy. I want all of them to speak out against this policy and demand action from the American People."

I understand what you are saying on a personal level. What they are doing in mocking him is so important. It is about giving him no safe ground. These comedians should not be changing their shows. They need to stick with their niche.

"please get this message to the hosts of these programs to talk seriously to the American People."

No way we/they should give up that ground as you request.

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