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CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
Mon Jun 18, 2018, 09:44 AM Jun 2018

Where are our liberal Hollywood elite on the child separation outrage?

Are they organizing to express their outrage and condemnation of this hideous situation? Where are Tom Hanks, George Clooney, Jane Fonda, Meryl Streep, and the rest of the high profile stars?

I'm actually quite certain they will be, if not organized, quite forceful in their condemnation at some point. While the right will write them off, I'm sure they can do some good in standing with so many high profile figures to condemn this atrocity.

But, you go Hollywood!

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Where are our liberal Hollywood elite on the child separation outrage? (Original Post) CTyankee Jun 2018 OP
I've never before waited for them to tell me what to do; why should I start now? NT mahatmakanejeeves Jun 2018 #1
I haven't either, but it's nice when they tune in. Their words carry a lot of weight shraby Jun 2018 #3
That wasnn't my point. My point -- just to be clear -- was why haven't they added their voices to CTyankee Jun 2018 #4
Same here. They are just people like I am. nt Blue_true Jun 2018 #58
I'm sure Susan Sarandon will be at the front of the march. dhol82 Jun 2018 #2
Not talking about SS, but so what if she does? CTyankee Jun 2018 #5
Presumably because she's one of the hypocrites that wanted Hillary beaten ? Just a guess.... OnDoutside Jun 2018 #12
Well, broken clock twice a day... CTyankee Jun 2018 #14
Yup. dhol82 Jun 2018 #20
Oh yeah... Sylvarose Jun 2018 #46
No doubt. Hortensis Jun 2018 #6
OK, I meant the term more generally but we could change that to "famous Hollywood liberal voices." CTyankee Jun 2018 #7
Yuck. Hortensis Jun 2018 #18
Oh, yes. Wherever they are they must speak up. CTyankee Jun 2018 #21
I admire your patience. pangaia Jun 2018 #27
well, I don't take any of this personally. If I did, I wouldn't be on DU at all... CTyankee Jun 2018 #43
Well said, CT... pangaia Jun 2018 #59
Always, always the same people (I probably can't see some of the responses). demmiblue Jun 2018 #52
Yup. Yup and Yup. pangaia Jun 2018 #57
With you. Not regressive government and "values." :) Hortensis Jun 2018 #33
I'm struggling to care less. Voltaire2 Jun 2018 #8
But we must all speak out, right? CTyankee Jun 2018 #11
Where are our leaders? C_U_L8R Jun 2018 #9
The UN has said something treestar Jun 2018 #50
I hope they vote and take action C_U_L8R Jun 2018 #55
A few of those you list don't use social media at all Blue_Adept Jun 2018 #10
Thanks for the link. Now I feel better... CTyankee Jun 2018 #13
Thankfully, there's a lot of ways to get support out beyond marching Blue_Adept Jun 2018 #15
I had an email from Natalie Portman yesterday. xmas74 Jun 2018 #16
And I noticed that Meryl had a "Mee, too" shirt on "Ellen" altho they didn't talk about the movement CTyankee Jun 2018 #17
In Missouri we've flipped a couple of state seats xmas74 Jun 2018 #23
are you on Twitter? Beaverhausen Jun 2018 #19
YES! Our elected Dems showing up at internment centers is terrific and so important! CTyankee Jun 2018 #24
Alyssa Milano has really been vocal xmas74 Jun 2018 #25
I don;t even know who Alyssa Milano is.. pangaia Jun 2018 #30
have you not seen TV in the last 35 years? Blue_Adept Jun 2018 #31
Dear Blue, I have NO IDEA about whom you speak. pangaia Jun 2018 #39
She was a child actor in the 80's. xmas74 Jun 2018 #37
Thanks. There is a lot I know and don't know it. pangaia Jun 2018 #41
Not just Alyssa... PossiblePasts Jun 2018 #42
Several have always been vocal xmas74 Jun 2018 #44
First, they're not elite. They're people with high profile jobs. Yavin4 Jun 2018 #22
They get in the public eye. They attract attention to the problem that we do not. It's OK. CTyankee Jun 2018 #28
"elite." betsuni Jun 2018 #26
who cares what comes out of his drunken, disgraceful mouth? CTyankee Jun 2018 #29
Don't use what came out of his mouth, then. Don't use "elites" as a slur. betsuni Jun 2018 #32
I didn't orginally use it as a slur. Others here were upset at its usage. CTyankee Jun 2018 #35
You, as a supposed art-lover, called actors "liberal Hollywood elite" betsuni Jun 2018 #40
Oh, this "supposed art-lover" is publishing her book of art essays this fall... CTyankee Jun 2018 #47
Way to go with very good organizing liberal elite capitalism! betsuni Jun 2018 #48
Thank you. CTyankee Jun 2018 #51
Lol... patience indeed! demmiblue Jun 2018 #54
I didn't know about this woman artist, but as I was scrolling down this picture I said to myself CTyankee Jun 2018 #61
Or maybe upset with... LanternWaste Jun 2018 #62
I would prefer tazkcmo Jun 2018 #34
Great point! CTyankee Jun 2018 #36
Thanks tazkcmo Jun 2018 #38
I'm not on Twitter. Perhaps I should be so I can "keep up." CTyankee Jun 2018 #45
Somebody gave money to the cause treestar Jun 2018 #49
Chrissy Teigen and John Legend. demmiblue Jun 2018 #53
Thank you! treestar Jun 2018 #56
Here's Rob Reiner: thucythucy Jun 2018 #60

shraby

(21,946 posts)
3. I haven't either, but it's nice when they tune in. Their words carry a lot of weight
Mon Jun 18, 2018, 09:49 AM
Jun 2018

among their fans. People will hear them when they don't hear politicians.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
4. That wasnn't my point. My point -- just to be clear -- was why haven't they added their voices to
Mon Jun 18, 2018, 09:50 AM
Jun 2018

what other very famous people, in other positions to have their voices on this outrage. Hollywood stars get publicity when they speak out and add their voices. They don't "tell" us anything, they JOIN WITH US.

Sylvarose

(210 posts)
46. Oh yeah...
Mon Jun 18, 2018, 11:30 AM
Jun 2018

...her and her "revolution." F*ck. I used to love Thelma and Louise. She's totally ruined that movie for me. Seeing her now just gets my blood pressure up.

So sick of her...don't even want to know what she's thinking about this crisis! As far as I'm concerned the only thing she can do to help is to donate money to lawyers to help these mothers and fathers fight to get their children to get back!

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
7. OK, I meant the term more generally but we could change that to "famous Hollywood liberal voices."
Mon Jun 18, 2018, 09:56 AM
Jun 2018

Or, "progressive Hollywood voices." Is that better?

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
18. Yuck.
Mon Jun 18, 2018, 10:38 AM
Jun 2018

What about the ones who live in London, NY and rural Colorado? "Influential voices from the entertainment world" sounds like something out of a magazine...

But whatever. "Hollywood" and "elite" have both been right wing dog-whistle smears for years. As are "Democrat elites" and "liberal elites." In fact, hostiles across the spectrum use "elites" as a smear to throw at anyone who doesn't think burning down the national barn is the answer.

The world has become obsessed with elites



AN ACADEMIC, a politician, a journalist, a film star, a nobleman and a banker walk into a bar. They order different drinks, and sit at separate tables each doing their own thing. There is no punch line; these people do not belong together in any sensible way. Yet members of these groups and others are regularly given the same label: “elites”.

https://www.economist.com/books-and-arts/2016/12/15/the-world-has-become-obsessed-with-elites

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
21. Oh, yes. Wherever they are they must speak up.
Mon Jun 18, 2018, 10:46 AM
Jun 2018

I never thought I'd everr hear from Laura Bush again and yet she felt compelled to speak up.

As for "elites" I think you are right. I do like the construct of "progressive voices" as I feel that is where we meet all right thinking people on the political spectrum (and I mean right as in people who share progressive values.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
27. I admire your patience.
Mon Jun 18, 2018, 10:56 AM
Jun 2018

I am sorry about so many jumping on you for using the term that shall not be mentioned.

I believe I understand why you may have used it. Perhaps with a certain .....'innocence?'


Whatever, after enjoying SO SO MANY of your art history posts, I think you deserve the right to perhaps use..... umm.... a term that is not seen in a positive light.. as I do not think you meant it that way...

Or maybe you did..

Anyway, I believe you understand my meaning, as poorly ewxpressed as it is.
Will others?

Thing is, something has changed here over the last.....few years..... ?

There is a bit of... um.. short-temperedness.. A waiting to pounce, loss of subtly, loss of seeing something other than black or white,(maybe I should say red or green),

But there is still often brilliance, super research and insightful thought.

Ah,, it is still a great place ....





CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
43. well, I don't take any of this personally. If I did, I wouldn't be on DU at all...
Mon Jun 18, 2018, 11:14 AM
Jun 2018

I think I was a bit sloppy in picking that "liberal elites" usage. I, too, wish that we could be a little less jumping on our own without looking further into the meaning of what the OP is trying to express.

We're all upset and for the same reason. We lost so much in Nov. of 2016. Not only did Obama have to leave, we lost the dream of having a wonderful woman as President. It's bound to make us really sad and angry.

demmiblue

(36,886 posts)
52. Always, always the same people (I probably can't see some of the responses).
Mon Jun 18, 2018, 11:53 AM
Jun 2018

CTyankee is good people... most of us know where her heart lies.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
33. With you. Not regressive government and "values." :)
Mon Jun 18, 2018, 11:03 AM
Jun 2018

I'm not surprised at Laura Bush. Most of our neighbors say the same thing. I'm hoping one in ten will decide not to vote in November to support what the conservative party has come to.

C_U_L8R

(45,021 posts)
9. Where are our leaders?
Mon Jun 18, 2018, 09:59 AM
Jun 2018

Where is the UN and the ICC?
The Red Cross?
Where is OUR National Guard?
When do we march?
Who will storm the Bastille?

Blue_Adept

(6,402 posts)
10. A few of those you list don't use social media at all
Mon Jun 18, 2018, 10:00 AM
Jun 2018

Which is where a lot of the rallying gets done. A lot of celeb interview orgs won't touch this kind of stuff so it doesn't come up or gets cut when packaged.

But hey, here's a whole bunch of them speaking out about it BACK ON MAY 26th

https://www.thewrap.com/separation-of-children-from-parents-at-border-hollywood-protests/

I'm sure they'll get around to speaking out about it, as you said.

And not speaking to you directly, CTYankee, but I love it when people demand people speak out without looking to see if they have. We hear that a lot with "why aren't democrats speaking out!" but when you go and look at the various reps and senators, they are. They're just not getting the oxygen in the room for it as everything is about Trump or something else.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
13. Thanks for the link. Now I feel better...
Mon Jun 18, 2018, 10:06 AM
Jun 2018

And just BTW, my very liberal senators and my congresswoman have reached out and I always sign on to the statements to add my support. My days of marching in the streets carrying a sign are over, due to my advanced age and my worsening arthritic back.

Blue_Adept

(6,402 posts)
15. Thankfully, there's a lot of ways to get support out beyond marching
Mon Jun 18, 2018, 10:19 AM
Jun 2018

Every small bit helps to build a wave.

xmas74

(29,676 posts)
16. I had an email from Natalie Portman yesterday.
Mon Jun 18, 2018, 10:22 AM
Jun 2018

It was about signing a petition by Move On in reference to everything happening.

I'd think that would be the first one but others will follow.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
17. And I noticed that Meryl had a "Mee, too" shirt on "Ellen" altho they didn't talk about the movement
Mon Jun 18, 2018, 10:27 AM
Jun 2018

but I feel certain something will arise from all this. I'm looking forward to the Blue Wave in the fall of this year. My husband always works at the polls for elections and we have some very active liberal dems here in New Haven...

xmas74

(29,676 posts)
23. In Missouri we've flipped a couple of state seats
Mon Jun 18, 2018, 10:49 AM
Jun 2018

And our Fourth Congressional has a nice primary run. Personally, I like both Hallie Thompson and Renee Hoagensen but I prefer Renee win the primary. I think Hallie is still young and inexperienced and I hope she runs for smaller state seats. She'd be a welcome addition to an ag committee or anything science related.

Renee does not have political experience but she's a very strong business woman who has polished her approach this year and is ready to take on Hartzler. (Joe Biden has also promised to come to Missouri to campaign for her. Squee!)

If Greitens gets his signatures to run as an independent for Senate Claire McCaskill is safe.

And everyone needs to keep an eye on Hillary Shields. She is running for a state seat but I've met her and she is the real deal. She and Jason Kander are the future of the Missouri Democratic Party. I can see both becoming national players.

Sorry for the rambling but November is going to be exciting.

Beaverhausen

(24,472 posts)
19. are you on Twitter?
Mon Jun 18, 2018, 10:41 AM
Jun 2018

Alyssa Milano and many others ARE speaking out.

Everyone is speaking out.

The most important action it appears are the democratic elected officials who are showing up at the internment centers. That should draw the most attention.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
24. YES! Our elected Dems showing up at internment centers is terrific and so important!
Mon Jun 18, 2018, 10:50 AM
Jun 2018

I just loved seeing Joe Kennedy show up on that video clip. It was beautiful seeing him fulfill his family commitment to progressive Dem policy.

xmas74

(29,676 posts)
25. Alyssa Milano has really been vocal
Mon Jun 18, 2018, 10:51 AM
Jun 2018

Over a number of subjects since the 2016 election. She was vocal before but not like this.

I started following her.

Blue_Adept

(6,402 posts)
31. have you not seen TV in the last 35 years?
Mon Jun 18, 2018, 11:00 AM
Jun 2018

Grew up on Who's the Boss with Tony Danzy and Judith Light

Multiple seasons on Charmed during the 2000's

The summer series Mistresses

Lots of movie roles.

Not exactly a nobody.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
39. Dear Blue, I have NO IDEA about whom you speak.
Mon Jun 18, 2018, 11:09 AM
Jun 2018

I grew up with Hopalong Cassidy, The Honeymooners and Joe DiMaggio


xmas74

(29,676 posts)
37. She was a child actor in the 80's.
Mon Jun 18, 2018, 11:07 AM
Jun 2018

You probably do know who she is and don't even realize it. She had a hit show in the 80's and as an adult she was on a hit show. She does some occasional acting but now in her forties she's raising kids and getting very politically active.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
41. Thanks. There is a lot I know and don't know it.
Mon Jun 18, 2018, 11:10 AM
Jun 2018

There is also a lot I think I know but don't.

probably more of the later.


PossiblePasts

(46 posts)
42. Not just Alyssa...
Mon Jun 18, 2018, 11:12 AM
Jun 2018

On Twitter:
John Cusack
Mark Hamill
Mark Ruffalo
George Takei
Rob Reiner
Henry Winkler
Bette Midler
Ron Perlman
and plenty of others. These are just a few of the ones that I follow.

xmas74

(29,676 posts)
44. Several have always been vocal
Mon Jun 18, 2018, 11:17 AM
Jun 2018

But she was one of my surprises.
Mark Ruffalo and I are from the same hometown, though neither of us have lived there in decades. Cusack is from nearby. Takei, Winkler and Reiner have always been liberal, Reiner always outspoken. Midler has also always been outspoken and supportive of the underdog.

As a sci fi fan Perlman and Hamill have been fun to follow. It's nice to see that they are outspoken when a number of fans are supportive of the current administration.

Yavin4

(35,446 posts)
22. First, they're not elite. They're people with high profile jobs.
Mon Jun 18, 2018, 10:47 AM
Jun 2018

Second, who cares what they say or do. We need to act now.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
28. They get in the public eye. They attract attention to the problem that we do not. It's OK.
Mon Jun 18, 2018, 10:56 AM
Jun 2018

These people are citizens with first amendment rights, just as we are. Only when they do it they do it to a great deal of media attention. And that gets results eventually.

I am old and have lived through lots of 1960s protests, sit ins, even public beatings (who can forget John Lewis' suffering a horrible beating?), and I have seen progress on civil rights, on ending the Vietnam War, on the rising of the Women's Marches?

My kids and grandkids are marching these days. They are paying attention...

betsuni

(25,618 posts)
40. You, as a supposed art-lover, called actors "liberal Hollywood elite"
Mon Jun 18, 2018, 11:10 AM
Jun 2018

"But, you go Hollywood!"

Right.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
47. Oh, this "supposed art-lover" is publishing her book of art essays this fall...
Mon Jun 18, 2018, 11:38 AM
Jun 2018

thought you might want to know...

demmiblue

(36,886 posts)
54. Lol... patience indeed!
Mon Jun 18, 2018, 12:10 PM
Jun 2018

If you ever decide to join Twitter, follow the #WOMENSART account (so many beautiful and interesting works of art from a variety of perspectives/mediums: https://twitter.com/womensart1



CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
61. I didn't know about this woman artist, but as I was scrolling down this picture I said to myself
Mon Jun 18, 2018, 01:50 PM
Jun 2018

"It sure looks like Klimpt..."

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
62. Or maybe upset with...
Mon Jun 18, 2018, 02:12 PM
Jun 2018

"Others here were upset at its usage..."

Or maybe simply upset with your original implication that no high profile actor/producer/director is doing anything at all, which itself lacks any evidence at all to support it?

But you go, CT...

tazkcmo

(7,300 posts)
34. I would prefer
Mon Jun 18, 2018, 11:04 AM
Jun 2018

They pool resources, put their money where their mouth is charter buses in every major city to help mobilize us little people to March on Washington, DC.

Many of us cannot afford to pay for the travel while missing work and therefore the income but could swing it if the transportation was paid for.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
36. Great point!
Mon Jun 18, 2018, 11:06 AM
Jun 2018

They should be doing that as well so others can exercise the First Amendment rights.

tazkcmo

(7,300 posts)
38. Thanks
Mon Jun 18, 2018, 11:09 AM
Jun 2018

I've been responding to their tweets, like Jim Carrey's and others with this idea. Of course, no replies but my expectations are pretty low anyway. There's always hope though.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
45. I'm not on Twitter. Perhaps I should be so I can "keep up."
Mon Jun 18, 2018, 11:19 AM
Jun 2018

But I rely heavily on DU for political information.

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