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UCmeNdc

(9,600 posts)
Wed Jun 13, 2018, 06:32 AM Jun 2018

Should California Really Be 3 States? Voters Will Decide In November.

Vote No! Republicans are always trying to break up California.

A dramatic proposal to split California into three separate states has gathered enough signatures to appear on the ballot during the upcoming midterm elections in November.

Tim Draper, the main proponent of the initiative and its prime bankroller, gathered at least 402,000 signatures to divide California into three parts: a state called Northern California sprawling from Oregon down to San Francisco, another called California that’d primarily include Los Angeles and a band of land up the coast, and another dubbed Southern California that’d include Fresno, Bakersfield and San Diego.

The plan would create three differently sized regions, but all would have roughly the same population. And while California currently has two U.S. senators, the new bloc of three Californias would have six under the new proposal.


https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/california-three-states-tim-draper_us_5b20ba0ee4b09d7a3d7885f5
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Should California Really Be 3 States? Voters Will Decide In November. (Original Post) UCmeNdc Jun 2018 OP
Sounds like a modified Calexit sarah FAILIN Jun 2018 #1
terrible idea. BlueJac Jun 2018 #2
Are the Russians pushing this shit again? MrsCoffee Jun 2018 #3
Then make Puerto Rico and Washington DC states at the same time Submariner Jun 2018 #4
That sounds like a horrible idea! Dem_4_Life Jun 2018 #5
Yep, looks like two new red states to one blue... Wounded Bear Jun 2018 #7
I'm trusting MFM008 Jun 2018 #6
will never happen PubliusEnigma Jun 2018 #8
How about we vote to make the entire West Coast one State...Pacifica! samnsara Jun 2018 #9
Venture Capitalist, already proposed to divide Ca. into 6 states... DownFromTheMountain Jun 2018 #10
The Dakotas should be a single state. The Carolinas should be a single state. NurseJackie Jun 2018 #11
The Dakotas yes edhopper Jun 2018 #12
Excellent points. NurseJackie Jun 2018 #13
Even if it won...wouldn't the federal government have something to say about this? Johonny Jun 2018 #14

sarah FAILIN

(2,857 posts)
1. Sounds like a modified Calexit
Wed Jun 13, 2018, 07:10 AM
Jun 2018

I came here looking to see if anyone else saw this. I can't believe anyone would think this was good. How do you split a government and assets up?

This sounds like crazy talk from the reps and Russians.

MrsCoffee

(5,803 posts)
3. Are the Russians pushing this shit again?
Wed Jun 13, 2018, 07:52 AM
Jun 2018

Draper is a Russian tool. He is heavily invested in their social media businesses (Facebook and messenger clones).

He pulled this shit a couple years ago saying California should secede or create a union with Canada.

He is another delusional billionaire.

Wounded Bear

(58,706 posts)
7. Yep, looks like two new red states to one blue...
Wed Jun 13, 2018, 08:02 AM
Jun 2018

Not gonna happen. It takes more than a silly voter resolution to do that, it takes Congressional approval. Article IV, Section 3.

New States may be admitted by the Congress into this Union; but no new State shall be formed or erected within the Jurisdiction of any other State; nor any State be formed by the Junction of two or more States, or Parts of States, without the Consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned as well as of the Congress.


Good luck overriding a fillibuster on that one. The only state so created was West Virginia, and that happened when the Southern States weren't "available" for comment.
10. Venture Capitalist, already proposed to divide Ca. into 6 states...
Wed Jun 13, 2018, 08:47 AM
Jun 2018

And was, (and probably is), a big donor to push School Vouchers. Beware efforts by the rich to break up democratic things into smaller bits...divide divide divide public matters..and merge private corps into monoliths..an American Oligarch.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
11. The Dakotas should be a single state. The Carolinas should be a single state.
Wed Jun 13, 2018, 08:58 AM
Jun 2018

Even though there's "West Virginia" there's no "East Virginia" so I don't think any change is needed there.

edhopper

(33,615 posts)
12. The Dakotas yes
Wed Jun 13, 2018, 09:08 AM
Jun 2018

where 4 Senators represent only 1.5 million people.
But the Carolinas, with 15 million people and large areas are good as too states. It's just their name that links them.

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