***Important coverage on Trump/Russia on Australian TV***

[MelissaB]

Last edited Mon Jun 11, 2018, 09:49 AM - Edit history (2)

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If you can't get to a TV or you're outside Australia, you can watch Trump/Russia live now on Facebook: https://bit.ly/2FLIMQ2 #4Corners

Some posts about this coverage:

@4corners has obtained evidence of a quid quo pro by Carter Page delivered to Trump that if sanctions were lifted , there would be a significant kickback from Rosneft sale. Fuck me , our journalists are destroying him. Carter looks shellshocked @4corners had the info on him😱😂😂

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Edited to say that I don't see anything new, but I've followed Trump/Russia closely. For the average American who doesn't have time or hasn't taken the time to do a lot of reading, this is fantastic. I wish the American news media would pump these stories out to make it easier to understand and follow.

[manor321]

1. Coverage

Is this just repeating the coverage we already know, or do they have actual new evidence?

[MelissaB]

2. I'm still watching,

so I can't answer yet.

What I can say is that it's put together in a way the American public would understand. Why is the US media not doing this? Why aren't they putting pieces like this together?

[MelissaB]

11. I don't think there is anything new at this point.

I'm a little over 1/2 through.

[YessirAtsaFact]

3. I wonder how long Mueller has known this?

I suspect at least as long as the Australian TV folks

[tazkcmo]

4. This is it.

Rosneft. It's why Carter Page is involved. It's why Shitgibbon ran. It's why Tillerson was named SoS.
I have been waiting impatiently for this. It's not new but most people are unaware of it.

People have been wondering what Putin has on Shitgibbon. It's a tape but not a peep tape. It's a tape that Carter Page delivered to Putin with Shitgibbon agreeing to help Putin get the sanctions lifted in exchange for 5 percent of Rosneft (Page gets a fee too, .5 percent I think).

I haven't watched this broadcast yet but I sure will as soon as I can.

[PearliePoo2]

7. 5 per cent of Rosneft is a hefty chunk of change! What he also wants, and has for years is...

Trump Tower Moscow! (and god knows what other gaudy, glitzy, hideous constructions)

NOTHING gets built in Russia without Putin's blessing.

It could be that BFF Pootie told Donny, "Lift the unfair sanctions and then we'll talk about your building permits."

[hedda_foil]

31. Did you notice how differently Page presented himself in this?

Instead of the bumbling youthful clown we've seen, he came off as much more emotionally mature, older, and pretty competent. I'm not suggesting which of these contrasting characteristics is the real Carter Page But for the first time, I could believe he could possibly function as an intelligence asset.

Takeaways

At the time, I didn't pick up on the fact that Orangeanus named ONLY Page and Papadopoulos as his foreign policy advisors in his first big foreign policy interview with the WaPo. That's certainly interesting. At the tims, nobody had ever heard of either of them. The eventual head of foreign policy for the campaign implied he didnt know who hired them. So who who but then in? Manafort? Sessions? Flynn? Bannon?

Also, Popadop's encounter with "the professor" in London was orchestrated by his wife who worked at a dubious sounding international legal organization run by the same prof. Interesting that she said she didn't get paid for her work, since her then fiancee wasn't making anything for his campaign work either. So who was paying their living expenses?

[RandomAccess]

36. +1

[hedda_foil]

39. Backatcha!

[Sophia4]

44. It was obvious from the beginning that this had to do with oil.

It's the only "thing" with enough value to possibly justify the risks the Trump crew have taken. And it is the one "thing" that Russians have a lot of and that could lose value if we really begin to take care of our environment -- the greatest threat to the whole lot of them.

I don't know about the tape part of your post. That is questionable but not yet out of the question.

Yes. Tillerson's appointment was one of the giveaways.

[Silver Gaia]

5. Yes. I've also been waiting for mainstream news to pick up on Rosneft.

Rachel Maddow has talked about it, but no one else that I know of. We've known about this for how long now? Seems like a year (or more?) at least. I decided when I first learned of it that, yes, this is IT. When Rosneft is factored in, pieces start to fall into place.

[panader0]

8. Yup--Rosneft monies are key in all of this.

[Pepsidog]

22. For some reason Louise Mensch is seen as a nut job but she has been talking about this for a year

[triron]

32. She is prescient on many things. But she seems a little off the wall at times as well.

[OneGrassRoot]

6. kick and question:

Do you know if there's any other way to view this other than via FB?

Thanks!

[MelissaB]

10. I don't think so. I'm really frustrated because it keeps buffering.

Not sure if its fb or me with about 15 tabs open.

[TalenaGor]

13. is this it?

http://www.abc.net.au/4corners/trumprussia:-follow-the-money/9840958

[OneGrassRoot]

19. Aha! That is it!

Evidently there are several parts to it but surely the "related" link on the side is just that.

Thank you!

[Amaryllis]

40. Full transcript at your link as well - scroll down a bit.

[Achilleaze]

9. k and r

[lagomorph777]

12. Makes sense. Therefore Turd's base won't understand it.

But they are small; we are growing.

[Lulu KC]

14. It was live--

and now it doesn't seem to be available. Is it user error or was it only avail to watch when live?

[erpowers]

15. Needs To Be Looked Into

This information needs to be examined further. What proof can be provided to backup this claim?

[Thyla]

16. This

First of a 3 part series.

[SwissTony]

29. Thanks for this.

Part 2 would have been sent out last night Oz time, so I'll keep an eye out for it on YT.

[Thyla]

35. No worries..

Need to watch this later, hopefully the rest will be uploaded too.

[BSdetect]

17. If drump had a flashing neon traitor display on his forehead the msm would ignore it

for coverage of a tweet

[thesquanderer]

18. But unless Trump DID ease sanctions and DID receive the kickback, it can't be tied to him. (n/t)

[BadgerMom]

20. Before the inauguration

The structure of the Rosneft deal had been reported in December 2016, early Jan. 2017. I clearly remember the disbelief and rage I felt when Tillerson was a nominee because at that point I figured he was in on it. I’m not as certain of that now. Tillerson was at least a nod to Putin, though.

[DeminPennswoods]

21. Seth Abramson has at least one long twitter thread

on this subject: xc

Link to tweet

[MontanaMama]

23. So I was in Australia this past March.

Pretty much everyone I met and got to know in that country ask me some version of “what in the AF is happening in America? Have people lost their minds?”

[triron]

33. I'm sure that's true in most of Europe as well.

[kimbutgar]

37. I heard that when I was in Europe in March

People were asking what happened to the US. Met several people from other ciuntries while in Rome when they asked us if we supported Twitler, hubby and I shouted loudly in unison “hell no”
I was embarrassed to say we were Americans and instead said we are from San Francisco.

One man said he was a crazy insane man and reminded him of a dictator. Another said they would not be traveling to the US on vacation until he was gone. I heard this several times in Frankfurt Germany also.

[MontanaMama]

41. Headed to Belize tomorrow

with my 13 year old son...can’t wait till I hear what they’ve got to say about Tangeranus. How freaking embarrassing.

[deminks]

24. and Russian goldmines for Brexit in Great Britain over the weekend.

Not a word in US press. Nada. Posts sink like a rock here in fact. Even though there is a direct link to trump campaign.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/jun/09/arron-banks-russia-brexit-meeting?CMP=share_btn_tw

[triron]

34. Depressing.

[Squinch]

25. Seems like a smoking gun to me!

[YessirAtsaFact]

27. Violation of emoluments clause, bribery

Some of the main reasons you don’t want your president to own a business

[hedda_foil]

26. Here's a playable Facebook link to Part 1 of the series on Trump/Russia. Part 3 this week or next.

https://www.facebook.com/abc4corners/videos/10155614938965954/

The program starts around 02:26 minutes in.

[PearliePoo2]

28. Does anyone know if Mueller has called Carter Page in for an interview?

If not, why not?

I would think that Mueller and his hot-shot team of investigators would be well aware of Carter's antics, everywhere he's been and everyone he's hooked up with.

K&R

[Squinch]

30. I expected a MUCH bigger response to this thread. It's huge news.

[triron]

38. kick for visibility

[blue-wave]

42. K&R and Thanks

for posting. 4Corners does have a YouTube page. I'm watching another of their documentaries on Trump, "The Company He Keeps." If you don't mind Melissa and it's any good I'll post it in videos. What a terrible web they have woven.

[Elwood P Dowd]

43. K&R (nm)

[Sunlei]

45. November 3, 2017 Page testifies he told Sessions about Russia trip(quid quo pro not mentioned)

November 3, 2017
https://www.cnn.com/2017/11/02/politics/carter-page-testimony-russia-trip/index.html

During more than six hours of closed-door testimony, Page said that he informed Sessions about his coming July 2016 trip to Russia, which Page told CNN was unconnected to his campaign role. Page described the conversation to CNN after he finished talking to the House intelligence committee.

Sessions' discussion with Page will fuel further scrutiny about what the attorney general knew about connections between the Trump campaign and Russia — and communications about Russia that he did not disclose despite a persistent line of questioning in three separate hearings this year


These fellows, Sessons, Page and the entire "Trump" campaign security team have a lot of explaining to do about their lies under oath.