Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search
18 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
If I could ask a favor, please read Kathleen Dehmlow's obituary (Original Post) underpants Jun 2018 OP
OW!! hatrack Jun 2018 #1
I'm guessing she did not make amends.... hlthe2b Jun 2018 #2
yo! that stung DrDan Jun 2018 #3
Do You Know Her? Me. Jun 2018 #4
No underpants Jun 2018 #8
Judgment is misspelled in the last paragraph of her obit. mnhtnbb Jun 2018 #5
Both spellings are acceptable; Ms. Toad Jun 2018 #12
Ah, British English vs. American English mnhtnbb Jun 2018 #14
Seriously? That is your response??? Nt USALiberal Jun 2018 #16
Ouch! That stung MustLoveBeagles Jun 2018 #6
Sometimes you just have to let it go struggle4progress Jun 2018 #7
Let that be a lesson to her. dixiegrrrrl Jun 2018 #9
Not a lot of class in the Obit. Blue_true Jun 2018 #10
If Gina and Jay are "good" Christian people... hunter Jun 2018 #11
She didn't just leave a husband. Per the obit EllieBC Jun 2018 #17
Her children were raised by her parents. hunter Jun 2018 #18
wow nini Jun 2018 #13
I feel sorry for Gina and Jay. Ilsa Jun 2018 #15

hlthe2b

(102,283 posts)
2. I'm guessing she did not make amends....
Tue Jun 5, 2018, 07:53 PM
Jun 2018

Ouch....

I'm guessing every day was the Festivus airing of grievances in that family...


I hope they can move on now....

mnhtnbb

(31,391 posts)
5. Judgment is misspelled in the last paragraph of her obit.
Tue Jun 5, 2018, 07:58 PM
Jun 2018

Who knows what went on?

Sounds like the start of a best seller.

Ms. Toad

(34,074 posts)
12. Both spellings are acceptable;
Tue Jun 5, 2018, 08:45 PM
Jun 2018

judgment is the dominant spelling in the US, but it is more mixed the UK.

http://www.dictionary.com/e/judgement-vs-judgment/

I spelled it with an "e" until about 2 decades ago

mnhtnbb

(31,391 posts)
14. Ah, British English vs. American English
Tue Jun 5, 2018, 10:25 PM
Jun 2018

There are lots of words with different spellings between British English and American English.

Here's an interesting list:

https://www.spreeder.com/important-american-and-british-spelling-differences-you-should-know-2/

And a little history about the word in question:

http://grammarist.com/spelling/judgment-judgement/

One wouldn't expect to see a British English spelling of the word in a local Minnesota paper. In fact, the Chicago article about it corrected the spelling when they quoted the line.

I just thought it was intriguing and ironic that the people who were apparently so delighted in the concept of judgment being passed on the dead woman used what is considered in American English to be an incorrect spelling of the word.

Judgment from someone who wasn't quite so perfect, either. Hmmm...what's that old Scriptural reference? "Judge not, that ye be not judged."

MustLoveBeagles

(11,611 posts)
6. Ouch! That stung
Tue Jun 5, 2018, 08:06 PM
Jun 2018

I'm not condoning her behavior if true but did that really need to be put in the paper? What's the point in shaming her after her death?

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
10. Not a lot of class in the Obit.
Tue Jun 5, 2018, 08:36 PM
Jun 2018

The kids would have come off much better by leaving it be and not saying or writing anything.

hunter

(38,316 posts)
11. If Gina and Jay are "good" Christian people...
Tue Jun 5, 2018, 08:40 PM
Jun 2018

... welcome to hell. Do not past "GO" do not collect $200.

Kathleen is in a better place.

My bad, bad, bad girl Hollywood great aunt lived more than a century and discarded a few bad husbands and lovers and annulments along the way.

Her last Catholic heretic husband was a keeper, and she was fortunate that he and she be adored by all family and community younger, all anyone important.

My mom asked me and my bad ass biker brothers to be bouncers at her last husband's funeral in case any holier-than-though Christian relatives showed up making trouble. A few did, but they remained silent. And the priest, who had a bad blood history with my great aunt's husband, made a complete ass of himself and that too was celebrated at his wake.

I'm inclined to like Kathleen Dehmlow.

EllieBC

(3,014 posts)
17. She didn't just leave a husband. Per the obit
Wed Jun 6, 2018, 12:59 AM
Jun 2018

she left her kids behind as well. Why would you admire that? People freak the fuck out about people leaving a dog at a pound but kids? Who cares, right?

hunter

(38,316 posts)
18. Her children were raised by her parents.
Wed Jun 6, 2018, 11:23 AM
Jun 2018

There's no story about the dad.

Maybe Kathleen was abused, mentally ill, or an addict. Maybe Kathleen's parents resented raising the kids so much they poisoned their relationship with their mom. We don't know.

My own grandmother became a danger to herself and others and had to be removed from the house she owned by court order, police, and paramedics. It was an hours long standoff, she was throwing things, cussing, kicking, hitting, and biting all the way. Later, when she was more stable, no nursing home or assisted living place could hold her long so she'd live with my parents. She was basically a bag lady with a good pension who brought chaos wherever she went, who could say the most hateful things imaginable.

For example, I have severe asthma and her chain-smoking put me in the hospital a couple of times. She'd offer to take care of me and my siblings and she'd promise my parents up, down, and sideways that she wasn't going to smoke. And then she would... She was convinced asthma was a mind-over-matter thing. Cigarettes are a terrible addiction.

We can think up all sorts of reasons to hate people but it's a waste of time and energy. My crazy grandma left us with lots of stories to tell, good, bad, and ugly. Her obituary was a story.

"We hate you mom, see you in hell!" tells me more about the kids than it does their mother. When I read obituaries I'm looking for stories about the deceased, not their survivors.

nini

(16,672 posts)
13. wow
Tue Jun 5, 2018, 08:45 PM
Jun 2018

Having had my sister go through parental alienation I'm going to withhold judgment. She very well may have been a crappy mother, but the first husband may have been a jerk and she had to leave to save them all.

Either way.. they need to get some help to find some kind of peace with it all. Sad.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
15. I feel sorry for Gina and Jay.
Tue Jun 5, 2018, 11:01 PM
Jun 2018

Their mother abandoned them. How could they as children rationalize why it might be okay for her to leave them? It sounds to me like they never fully recovered from this trauma, much the same way as these children held in detention may never recover.

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»If I could ask a favor, p...