Globalism is not a bad thing

[Tavarious Jackson]

It actually means you have PROGRESSED from nationalism to global love. I like trade and want NAFTA to stay. I'm voting for NATO, the EU, TRADE, and a globalist in 2020. My positions are totally anti Putin.

[shanny]

1. conflating a bunch of unrelated stuff here

and "global love?" the biggest beneficiaries of globalization are corporations and they don't love anybody or anything but what lines their pockets

[Tavarious Jackson]

2. I disagree.

A lot of Americans benefit from globalism and trade. Do you like what Trump is doing to NAFTA?

[shanny]

6. I don't like anything tRump is doing.

I also don't, and never did, like NAFTA.

[Tavarious Jackson]

3. Corporations

need to be reigned in, there needs to be more taxes and a demand of higher pay but most people in USA work for a corporation so they do actually create jobs.

[shanny]

5. Demand creates jobs, not corporations (or "job creators").

Do you think the people running corporations wake up in the morning and think, "I'm going to create a job today"? They don't. By definition they haven't a shred of social conscience or any concern other than their own benefit.

[Tavarious Jackson]

7. OK, tax them Federal min wage at $15 for rural and 18.50 for non rural

there are ways we can do both but globalism is better than nationalism.

[ck4829]

4. It's weird, how we hear "globalism" and we're supposed to think George Soros or the United Nations

NATO, NAFTA, the EU, etc.

Yet you never see anyone ranting about "globalism" lead protests of K Line or Maersk... Just two of the biggest international shipping container corporations in the world. Weird how they're never part of any "globalist", "international Jewish banker plot", "multiculturalist", "cultural Marxist", conspiracy theory.

Why is that?

[gratuitous]

8. Those side agreements to NAFTA will be concluded any day now, right?

The side agreements on labor and the environment? The ones we were told were going to be negotiated and included some day? But we had to get NAFTA signed right away if we were going to compete globally? But somehow the niggling concerns of people who like drinkable water, breathable air, and a living wage haven't quite risen to the level of the desire of large corporations to have a stable, predictable business environment as well as a clear field to maximize profit without concern for labor or the environment.

Is that the "globalism" you're talking about? Because I think it's a bad thing to prioritize trade over every other consideration.

[Tavarious Jackson]

9. I think the world is ready for environmental issues to be included in trade deals

If a democrat would say to Mexico and Canada lets add environmental protections to NAFTA they those countries would agree to negotiate that in right now. But do get rid of NAFTA or rail against it when you know NAFTA gone hurts jobs is not the way to go.

[gratuitous]

10. You "think"; that's nice

It doesn't play out in practice, but you think the world is ready for environmental considerations to play a part in trade deals. Sweet. How about labor issues? Do the workers creating all this wealth get to participate in the fruits of free trade, or are they consigned forever to be exploited for the direct benefit of the corporate overlords?

[Tavarious Jackson]

11. Do you support Trump on trade?

Just curious how you feel about what he is doing there..

[gratuitous]

12. What does Trump have to do with your post?

But I don't see any point to your pie-in-the-sky fantasyland stylings on NAFTA ("If a democrat would say to Mexico and Canada lets add environmental protections to NAFTA" - Huh? What "democrat"? When? What's the basis for your conclusion that Mexico and Canada would agree to negotiate "right now"?) or other trade issues.

Does your definition of "globalism" include environmental and labor issues on an equal footing, or not? Because right now, trade seems to be all about maximizing profits at the expense of air, water, and land, and the exploitation of the workers. Is that your vision of globalization or not? If so, then the globalism you're defending is indeed a bad thing. If not, then explain your terms.

Because right now, your point is meaningless.

[moondust]

13. Race to the bottom.

Globalized trade of goods and services is generally okay but globalized labor tends to depress wages for everybody who works for a living.

[Tavarious Jackson]

14. I could agree with that

I think it should be debated.