Bernie Sanders' Revolution Isn't Carrying His Candidates Through The Midterms

[DonViejo]

You Say You Want A Revolution

Bernie Rages Against The Machine But He Isn’t Carrying His Candidates Through The Midterms

By Cameron Joseph | June 5, 2018 6:00 am

ANAHEIM, CALIF. — Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) strode to the stage to raucous applause in pivotal Orange County on Saturday, just days ahead of California’s crucial primaries — and lit into Big Mickey Mouse while ignoring the looming elections.

“If a corporation like Disney has enough money to pay its CEO over $400 million in a four year period, it damn well has enough money to pay its workers at least fifteen bucks,” thundered the once and likely future presidential candidate, using his significant soapbox to tear into the Walt Disney Company on worker compensation to the delight of the thousands of union members gathered at a megachurch a short jaunt from Disneyland. But he failed to mention even once the state’s impending primary elections, in which many of the assembled unions are working hard to ensure Democrats get on the general election ballot — and whose outcomes will play an outsized role in Democrats’ fight to win the House and stop President Trump’s agenda.

The appearance was vintage Bernie. He raged against the machine and championed workers and small-d democracy while largely ignoring the big-D Democratic Party. It was just one of three events across the Los Angeles area that day where he focused on movement politics and ignored Tuesday’s big primaries in nearby districts while barely mentioning President Trump — even though groups like the Service Employees International Union used the events to corral volunteers to knock on doors for the primary immediately afterwards.

Sanders has stayed out of most Democratic primary races, doing little to support a number of candidates who’ve embraced his populist calls for Medicare for all, free college and a $15 national minimum wage. When he has gotten involved in competitive primaries, his candidates have lost more races than they’ve won.

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[Me.]

1. Tell Me Again Why He Should Be Allowed To Run As A DEm In '20

And, how much he supports Dems

"Sanders has stayed out of most Democratic primary races, doing little to support a number of candidates who’ve embraced his populist calls for Medicare for all, free college and a $15 national minimum wage. When he has gotten involved in competitive primaries, his candidates have lost more races than they’ve won"

[Cha]

19. Bears repeating!

"Sanders has stayed out of most Democratic primary races, doing little to support a number of candidates who’ve embraced his populist calls for Medicare for all, free college and a $15 national minimum wage. When he has gotten involved in competitive primaries, his candidates have lost more races than they’ve won"

Mahalo, Me

[Me.]

20. Mahalo To You Cha

Wish we had a backflip smilie

[arthritisR_US]

32. I know where I want to tell him to go but I'd get another

post blocked. I’m so fecking happy right now. Go Dems!

[JCanete]

37. because what mechanism would you use to bar him exactly? Who made you or any of our democratic

leaders king? What the ever loving fuck? Can he get on the ballot? Then what in the hell are you even talking about?


Really? Candidates operating with less corporate money are losing more than they are winning? Weird...that definitely deserves a post about failure.

[Me.]

38. Do Stop With The Fake Umbrage

No one is king or savior, certainly not BS and that is the point

[JCanete]

49. totally the point I got from your post...it was like right there in black and white, only it said

something entirely different.

[Me.]

52. Oh Dear, Oh Dear

[Hortensis]

41. It's very hard to imagine we would allow him to.

He betrayed his agreement with the Democratic Party in return for giving him the validity and structural and funding support that come with being a Democratic candidate.

We absolutely would have to worry about 2020, knowing that Hillary would be our president now and that we'd at least control the senate IF Sanders had campaigned honorably for us, segueing to speaking truth about us, and if he had not produced his incessant lies to his supporters that we were corrupt, his incessant lies that we were not the center of Amerrican progressivism, and his incessant lies that we had stolen election after election.

There's no reason to think he'd behave differently in 2020 and every reason to believe he not only wouldn't but couldn't change his lifelong knee-jerk dissidence.

"Why?" He replies, "It's my nature."

[Me.]

44. Very Well Put

[pandr32]

54. Exactly right

[Gothmog]

2. The endorsement of the Our Revolution group is not worth much

[comradebillyboy]

3. It's hard to lead a revoloution when you are the Lone Ranger.

[arthritisR_US]

33. Lone Ranger...

[MineralMan]

4. Bernie Has Begun His 2020 Campaign

He's not trying to help Democrats regain control of Congress. He's running for President again. Neither Bernie nor Our Revolution are helping in any way to elect people to the House of Representatives. The candidates they are endorsing in the primaries are losing. Where will Bernie and Our Revolution be after the primaries? Will they be endorsing and campaigning for the primary winners who are Democrats? The answer to that will be, I'm certain, no.

Bernie is free to make another attempt at the Presidency. He will not succeed, but he's free to try. But, he's not helping in the 2018 midterm election cycle at all.

[Gothmog]

5. Do you think that sanders will comply with ballot access laws and release tax returns

I personally do not think that sanders will release his 2016 tax return for a host of reasons

[MineralMan]

6. Well, he didn't release them in 2016, so I doubt he'll be interested.

Personally, I doubt he will advance very far in the 2020 primaries. He lost once. He would lose again, probably with even fewer votes. He gave it a shot and failed. I don't see any reason to expect a better performance if he tries again.

[Gothmog]

7. In Maryland and a couple of other blue states, he can not get onto ballot with release

Several blue states will adopt laws that require the release of tax returns to get onto the ballot. If sanders does not release, then he has to sue or not be on the ballot.

If democrats take the house, trump's tax returns will be released and so trump may not be as motivated to sue to invalidate these laws.

[MineralMan]

8. I strongly suspect that Sanders won't run at all.

Like a lot of folks, I'm weary of the Senator from Vermont, except as the Senator from Vermont.

[Blue_true]

10. His tax returns will be his downfall if he does not release them.

Young people that will make the difference want openess, they will view Bernie not wanting to make his tax returns open to inspection as him trying to hide something. I never understood why a socalled man of the people would have any issue at all with people publicly examining his tax return, no one who is what they claim should have an issue with letting people look at their tax return with SS number and home address blacked out.

[Gothmog]

13. There are some transactions that occurred in 2016 that I want to see

If the speculation is correct on a couple of issues, I doubt that sanders will want to release his 2016 returns.

[R B Garr]

14. +1, And Tad Devine...!

[Blue_true]

17. MMy guess is that he is in a box.

As the presumed front runner or something close, he is going to get vetted this time around and everything about his past will be looked into, including his resistance to release several years of tax returns.

[Me.]

27. Vetted From Tonsils Right Down To His WHo-Ha

and if he doesn't know that he's a fool

[arthritisR_US]

35. Excellent point. I hope the media does their fecking work!

[arthritisR_US]

34. Young people will also view his pro gun voting history dismally.

[PADemD]

9. Our Revolution backed primary victories:

https://ourrevolution.com/press/our-revolution-candidates-win-primaries-nationwide-may18/

Stacey Abrams won the gubernatorial primary in Georgia and is on track to be the first black female Governor in US history.

Sheikh Rahman defeated a 14-year incumbent to become the first immigrant elected to the Georgia State Senate.

Shelly Hutchinson is a mental health worker who won her primary for State Representative in Georgia’s 107th District and is poised to turn a red district Bernie Blue.

Lisa Ring, chairwoman of the Bryan County Democratic Committee and Co-Chair of the Georgia Sanders Delegation to the DNC, is taking on an incumbent Member of Congress in District 1.

Adrian Wallace, a progressive minister who ran on pro-voting rights, pro-higher education access, and pro-sustainable environment campaign, is headed to a runoff in the Lexington-Fayette County, Council At-Large seat in Kentucky.

Paul Walker is running an uphill race openly supporting the DREAM Act against a very anti-immigrant incumbent in Kentucky’s 1st Congressional District.

Maureen Skinner, a first-time candidate and child-rights advocate, won her primary for State Senate in Arkansas’ 35th District.

[Blue_true]

11. All those people were mainline democrats, you forgot that part.

While progressive, they hold clear eyed views on politics.

BTW, I never get an answer. Explain to my why a politician that claims to be a man of the people won't release tax returns? What is there to hide if the claim is accurate?

[Hassin Bin Sober]

23. You mean he endorsed Democrats? What a monster!

[LanternWaste]

50. Endorsing mainline candidates appears such a revolutionary act...

Endorsing mainline candidates appears such a revolutionary act...

[NCTraveler]

12. How did Our Revolution do?

https://ourrevolution.com/candidates/

I think they endorsed 31 people yesterday.

[Gothmog]

15. Stacy Abrams was endorsed by John Lewis and Hillary Clinton

It was clear to most that Stacey was going to win. Hillary Clinton's robo call was far more important https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/21/politics/hillary-clinton-stacey-abrams-georgia-robocall/index.html

Hillary Clinton has waded into the Georgia governor's race, recording a robocall that urged Democratic voters to back former state House minority leader Stacey Abrams in Tuesday's primary.

Clinton endorsed Abrams, a favorite of progressives who is seeking to become the nation's first African-American female governor, over moderate former state Rep. Stacey Evans.

"A Yale educated attorney, Abrams is the only candidate with bold new plans to ensure Georgians have access to good jobs, quality public schools, affordable child care and higher education," Clinton said in the call, noting, in a reference to the candidates' similar names, that it's "Abrams, with an 'A.'"

Clinton's robocall for Abrams shows that her support is still in demand in certain races. Clinton was backed overwhelmingly by black voters in the South in the 2016 primary and general election.

In addition, it was Hillary Clinton who gave Stacy a prime time speaking slot

[Cha]

21. John Lewis Backed Stacy Abrams in 2017.. Hillary invited

Stacy Abrams to the DNC where she was booed when she said John Lewis' name.. Hillary also robo-called campaigned for her.

OR was late to the party.

[Hortensis]

48. Yes. Let's give OR credit for finally joining the party, tho.

They wouldn't have in 2017 and might even have publicly opposed Abrams. She's been working with Georgia's Republican majorities her entire life in politics, so it is an evolution for them. And Abrams has welcomed them into her big tent.

We of course don't like the insults these groups use to justify their foolish opposition, but we need to remember that most of those drawn to them aren't born zealots, they're just drawn hopefully by the idealistic rhetoric. And it's ideal if those who learn they prefer working together for common goals over dissension and obstruction do it in Abrams' big tent, and those of other Democrats. I feel sure Abrams thinks so.

[Gothmog]

30. For this thread

Link to tweet

[arthritisR_US]

36. Um, Stacey was endorsed by HC et al, so which fecking revolution

do you want to ascribe her to? As usual Bernie, like tRump will take credit where it’s not due.

[BannonsLiver]

47. Most all will lose in the general

Bernie’s crew has been getting crushed. A few rando names in Long shot races doesnt seem like much of a revolution.

[Quixote1818]

16. According to Truthout they are doing pretty good

https://truthout.org/articles/candidates-backed-by-sanders-s-our-revolution-organization-achieve-early-success/

[Tarc]

25. Poop-flinging monkeys can hit the wall half the time, too

[Quixote1818]

31. Non establishment candidates of course are going to have a more difficult time

They don't have the money or the backing of the power brokers. The fact that they are doing as good as they are is actually quite surprising in my opinion.

[disillusioned73]

43. & the more they are brought up & attacked also

is telling..

[LanternWaste]

51. Not too surprising when one looks at the overlap of the candidates endorsed by both the DNC and OR.

"The fact that they are doing as good as they are is actually quite surprising..."

Not too surprising when one looks at the overlap of the candidates endorsed by both the DNC and then OR.

[hunter]

18. I don't like Bernie Sanders.

He's not my last page Green Eggs and Ham.

wikipedia

Most days of the week I'm a vegan socialist with a very practical Barrack Obama / Jerry Brown Democratic political agenda.

[ProudLib72]

22. Would you like him in a box?

Would you like him on Fox?

[hunter]

24. I would not like him in a box...

... i would not like him on Fox.

[grossproffit]

26. I would not like him in a bar.

I would not like him in a car.

[LSFL]

28. i would not like him in a chair

I would not like him anywhere.

[Gothmog]

29. Our revolution and California

Link to tweet

[workinclasszero]

46. Hell of a revolution eh?

Meanwhile in my redstate district, a pro-choice, pro-education, pro gay rights, female democrat flipped a republican seat by 19%!

Now that's a revolution!

[Hortensis]

40. We all knew the press coverage was mostly puffery,

trying to create drama and support his phony claims of ideological and issues differences where there are no real ones, just tweaks in details at best. Except for Sanders' attempts to inflame dangerous populist resentments; that's his alone, but it's a method for gaining power, not an issue.

And of course Sanders never mentioned the upcoming elections, where the only real choice is either Democrat or Republican. His dissidence against the larger group, whatever it is at the time, is a lifetime pattern, how he's wired. Issues come second at best.

[disillusioned73]

42. There is gonna be a lot of tight sphincters

come 2020..

[betsuni]

45. Bernie Sanders:

"The Democratic Party has been dominated by wealthy campaign contributors, they got to open the door to people who work with their hands, people who take showers at the end of the day, not the beginning of the day."

[Gothmog]

53. Analysis: How did Bernie Sanders Democrats do in the primaries?

Sanders did not do well https://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/story/news/2018/06/06/analysis-how-did-bernie-sanders-democrats-do-primaries/676864002/

Only a handful of candidates running under the Bernie Sanders banner survived primaries held in six states on Tuesday.

As of Wednesday afternoon, only seven of 31 candidates endorsed by Our Revolution -- a political group affiliated with Vermont’s independent senator -- had been declared winners. Another two races were undecided.

At best, fewer than one-third of the endorsed candidates won.

The endorsement and support of Our Revolution is not very valuable

[Cha]

55. Good! I'm glad these brilliant Dems are Winning!

We're Winning while she's making threats.

J. Sanders: If the Democratic party doesn't become progressive, there will be a third party

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=10695176