If Manafort is jailed will Trump pardon him and get him out immediately ?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

President Trump Can Preemptively Pardon His Advisers And Family, But Will He?


There is precedent, surprisingly, for doing so. President Gerald Ford did exactly that in 1974 with Proclamation 4311, pardoning then former President Richard Nixon before Nixon faced any formal charges.


https://www.forbes.com/sites/jacobfrenkel/2017/07/21/president-trump-can-preemptively-pardon-his-advisors-and-family-but-will-he/#f4daedf6c3bb

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[johnp3907]

1. Does pardoning work that way?

I had to pass because of my ignorance.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

5. I'm not an expert on pardons but I believe that's how they work.

Usually they occur after convictions but as we have seen in the Nixon instance prospective pardons can be granted,

[Zambero]

11. That would be the classic precedent for pre-emptive pardon

And it should be noted that Gerald Ford wasn't out to protect his own ass when he pardoned Nixon. It actually cost him dearly in the '76 election. Trump's motivation for pardoning a prior associate(s) ahead of conviction would be perceived as being entirely different and blatantly self-serving.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

12. It would be "would be perceived as being entirely different and blatantly self-serving. "

Why should that act be perceived as different from any other act by Trump ?

[Zambero]

14. Clarification: different than Ford's motivation for pardoning Nixon

Otherwise yes, Trump can always be depended on to be Trump. Catering to his own self-preservation at the expense of all other considerations.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

16. Ford won the Profiles In Courage award for his pardon

Trump isn't winning s--t for pardoning his fellow crime family subordinates.

[bornfree17]

2. He'll

Most likely pardon him right before he leaves office. At least that's what other presidents did

[HAB911]

3. He's flailing so wildly

he just may go for broke

[DetlefK]

4. Jailed pre-trial for violating bail or jailed after trial?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

6. This

Jailed pre-trial for violating bail or jailed after trial?

[DetlefK]

7. Is it even possible to pardon someone who hasn't been put on trial yet?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

8. Usually they occur after convictions ...

Usually they occur after convictions but as we have seen in the Nixon instance prospective pardons can be granted.

[malaise]

10. You are correct

He cannot be pardoned before a trial- truth is Manafort should be on trial for treason - he's a fucking mercenary just like the Blackwater war criminal.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

13. Nixon was pardoned before a trial

President Trump Can Preemptively Pardon His Advisers And Family, But Will He?


There is precedent, surprisingly, for doing so. President Gerald Ford did exactly that in 1974 with Proclamation 4311, pardoning then former President Richard Nixon before Nixon faced any formal charges.


https://www.forbes.com/sites/jacobfrenkel/2017/07/21/president-trump-can-preemptively-pardon-his-advisors-and-family-but-will-he/#f4daedf6c3bb

Manafort should be on trial for treason

Trump could pardon him for that too.

[malaise]

15. Nixon had already resigned

What's more, Manafort is not facing impeachment.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

17. Once Nixon had resigned he could be prosecuted like any other citizen.

Ford gave Nixon a prospective pardon, not a retrospective one.

[malaise]

18. He should have been charged

but this is completely different

[DemocratSinceBirth]

19. He definitely should have been charged.

[Calista241]

9. Like W Bush and Scooter Libby, i think he'll commute his sentence.

A pardon removes jeopardy if he were to testify against any co-conspirators or other criminal acts he was involved in.