Russian spies in U.S

[Civic Justice]

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The U.S. decision to expel 60 alleged spies is unlikely to cripple Russian spying in the United States because others have wormed and hacked their way into American companies, schools, and even the government, current and former U.S. officials said.

We can be sure that in all the America Forums there is likely Russian Spies, trying to size up the concepts and attitudes of America people, among the many other likely objectives they have.

One would likely not even know when they are encountering a Russian Spy.

Watched a show last night, "Anyone could be a Russian spy, even your next-door neighbor. The Plot Against America.
Interesting show, as it showed concepts of Russian Focused Determination, upon often time unsuspecting Americans.
on A&E

We have a situation in America where there is Russian Links all saturated in the Current Administration, and its no way we can dismiss it, based on the "denials of the current administration".. Between "MONEY" and other compromised individuals who have not a closet full of stuff, but many closets full of stuff.... and "money" matters.... We'd be even more insidious to not give this the high credibility of truths, that our own and other nations Intelligence Agencies - have allowed by various means for us to know !!!!

We have even more need and reason to promote a Democratic Public Interactive Conversational Narrative on a daily basis, for the many people who frequent the wide variety of social media and discussion forums as well as general social interactive conversations.
We truly don't have time to be doubt-filled with assumptions that everyone knows the values of the Democratic Platform, nor do we have time to assume we can be lax about the infestation of Right Wing drives for social disruption along with the movements of the increased number of white nationalist, white racist and wide array of groups that are operating in the U.S.

Social Destabilization is today, a more powerful and damaging tool than for a foreign country invading another with bombs, troops and bullets. When we minimize the damages such tools cause, we then become susceptible to Social Destablization, and today we see it has increased to a fever pitch, and its being fueled like never before, and its coming from our own Presidential Administration and our Republican Right Wing Congress.

We continue to see many exposures of Republican in all natures of compromising situation, and the entire Republican Congress living in Terror of Not Submitting to Trump and his Russian Connected Gangs. Likely many of them have so many skeletons in their closets, they fear exposure if they don't side up with Trump, or simply go silent and rubber stamp what ever comes along. Add in the aspirations of old style confederate idealism of class and race segregation, and we have a situation that promotes increased instability all across American society.

[annabanana]

1. Those 60 that were expelled were immediately replaced

by 60 others. Nothing at all was accomplished in this move.

[sunonmars]

2. it was smoke and mirrors by Comrade Trump.

[Civic Justice]

3. ...they don't operate like the TV movies

Many of the small Rural Town are direct and immediate targets, the same as Trump turns the focus to Mexicans, when these town across the nation and in location where sensitive American organization exist, is prime target for Russian to set up shop.

Just as Trump said he loves the uneducated, that may well be also an indicator as to where the Russian make their stand, among these same small town red district types. All they need to do is, push the idea that the people are being unfairly treated by the system, and these red districts eat that up.. When truth and fact is, these red districts are the largest consumers and beneficiaries of public services and public assistance. They are the prime areas to sow discontent.

Our inner cities and the various multi cultural groups within, seek more the aims of equality and equal opportunity, these people in the red districts are continually pushing a delusion of values, of which they DON'T uphold even in their own community or their own homes. This is an amazing tool to make use of by any foreign group that seeks to make use of the people for social disruption.
We have to ask ourselves about all the Police brutality in the cities, and consider the Russian link in that as well. Many of these are white officers pushing racism and assault, to agitate and continue to destabilize communities.

What is a reality in America is, "white Russian Immigrants/(spies) would never be suspected in many American Rural towns, simply because "they look like the people who live there". they get immediate "non suspect status", all they have to say is they moved from some other part of the country to these location, and they have an inside track to sow discontent, by feeding the frenzy of the common conversations in these red districts.

We need to be far more aware of what we are dealing with.... on many levels. When we see a whole segment of America go rabid, with racism, social disruption and a blind eye to the madness of this Trump administration and its actions.

[TheBlackAdder]

4. I would say, any Russian who invested in a Trump property is probably a spy. Esp. at his FL condos.

[Botany]

5. "Social Destabilization is today, a more powerful and damaging tool ....

Lawmaker: Russian trolls trying to sow discord in NFL kneeling debate


https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/lawmaker-russian-trolls-trying-to-sow-discord-in-nfl-kneeling-debate/2017/09/27/5f46dce0-a3b0-11e7-ade1-76d061d56efa_story.html?utm_term=.415427e64e8a

[Civic Justice]

6. If we remember the sanction Obama put on Russia

As well too remember the point where the Ruble Fell Sharply and their oil revenue dropped sharply.... They were "furious" and they send their money around the world in the "dirty money cycle" trying to preserve value in their wealth holding.
Trump benefited greatly long before his run for office. When there was no other viable legal means for him to have gotten money.
It was Russian Money that he and many others tapped into. He became vocally a Russian advocate and the more he advocated the more money Russian put into his properties.

But at the same time, the long game, is to weaken America, and the best way to do it is to feed into the racist divisions that rose up to a fever pitch during the election of Obama, and the economic Devastation left behind by Bush. It was a perfect recipe for Russians to rush in and feed discord, especially through the white males and the rural red states white people.

The polls showed overwhelmingly how white males voted Republican and Voted for Trump, and even with the madness of abuse of women, the white women chose to vote Republican. Then there's Hillary, who would not stand down to Putin's antics, the aim to tarnish her was in overdrive, first with the Benghazi, and then about something as minor and insidious as emails.

They played the gullibility of Americans to fall for "drama antics" and forget the long history of works by Clinton. Besides she was a "woman", that did not sit well with the historically male dominance ideals that is pervasive in Right Wing society.

We better get smarter and stop running from the truths that we see and know... many may skip right past this thread, yet as democrats they know there is Russian interference, yet, won't engage to expand and expound on their thoughts so others who may come upon this site, can have narrative and content to arouse and inspire them to become more aware.

Such acts do not help us.... But, I'll keep writing anyway, hopefully those new people who venture upon this site can be inspired to expound and spread public conversational narratives.

[annabanana]

9. You should re-post this as an OP

With a snappy title like.. The Truth about Russian Interference.. or Putin's Plan for YOU!!.. or something like that.

It a well written, accurate, and illuminating bunch of context!

[Civic Justice]

7. We should not just assume people support Democratic views, we have to be Proactive to Assure This!!!

We should not just assume this, we have to be Proactive to Assure This!!!

Promote narratives of Democratic Values and watch the nature and level of feedback... it might tell a story worth giving attention unto.

[Civic Justice]

8. Russian involvement in America did not start with Trump and its does not stop with Trump

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We know Trump has given them every green light to invigorate their campaign of disruption, and in Trumps view, as long as money is spinning in the circle he does not care about much else, because "money insulates him" and always have.

He is no concern with the impact on the average person, if he had been... never would he have push the rip off tax plan, that is only designed to benefit the well to do and the wealthy.
His idea is give the poor a few $100 dollars and they become blind as can be.....while the wealthy walk away with $100k's and Million and 10's of million.. and more...
they can spend $300 on a soft day lunch... and not think about it. They spread the $300 out to the poor over an extended numbers of month, and the unaware think they are winning...

All the while every door in America is opened for Russian styled mob take over's of every type of business all across rural America. Trump has done everything he can, and continues to do as much as he can to assist them in this activity!!!!

[Eliot Rosewater]

10. Americans with fathers or grandfathers, mothers/grandmothers who fought in WWII or Korea or Nam

are gladly supporting a traitor working for our enemy.

Remarkable