Nikki Haley fails to get - any - U.N. support to block Kuwait Condemnation of Israel

[laserhaas]

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The United States has voted against a Kuwait-drafted United Nations Security Council resolution calling for the protection of Palestinian civilians, while being the only country to back its own measure condemning Hamas for the recent violence in the Gaza Strip.

[Matthew28]

1. Trump is effectively killing

any and all power or sway America ever had in this world.

Damn

[laserhaas]

3. Pathetic state of affairs

[workinclasszero]

31. Yup

I don't think people realize the horrendous damage that Trump and the GOP are doing to this country.

Do you think a democratic congress and presidency will fix it when the whole world will know that in another four years America can break all its treaties and stab all it's allies in the back like Trump did?

We are well and truly fucked and will be isolated and marginalized on the world stage for a generation at least I bet.

This country can no longer be trusted to keep its word on trade, on treaties, on anything as Trump and the GOP have amply proven.

Putin is laughing his ass off in the Kremlin about it 24/7 no doubt.

[avebury]

38. I don't think that the Democrats, should they gain power,

will be able to totally fix the mess Trump has gotten us in. In the back of the minds of all world leaders will be "What if the Rethugs get back in power?"

They will never view the US as a stable ally to be counted upon again. Johan Galtung a Norwegian Mathematician/Sociologist correctly predicted the fall of the Soviet Union. He has predicted a similar collapse for the US.


https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-us-power-to-collapse-predicted-ussr-fall-johan-galtung-a7460516.html

A sociologist credited with predicting the fall of the Soviet Union has warned that US global power is in a phase of accelerated decline under the leadership of Donald Trump — and will collapse while the property mogul is the White House.

Norwegian professor Johan Galtung is known as the "founding father" of peace studies as a scientific subject and is recognised for correctly predicting numerous historical events, among them the Tiananmen Square uprising in China and the September 11 attacks.

He attracted controversy in 2000 when he predicted US global power would collapse by 2025.

But under the Bush administration he revised his forecast for the collapse to 2020. Now, he says that reality that is materialising following election of the bombastic billionaire.


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[avebury]

39. More on Johan Galtung.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-us-power-to-collapse-predicted-ussr-fall-johan-galtung-a7460516.html


Dr Galtung added that the President-elect's critical attitude to Nato also indicated the US would cease to be a superpower.

“The collapse has two faces,” Dr Galtung told the tech news site, “Other countries refuse to be good allies and the USA has to do the killing themselves, by bombing from high altitudes, drones steered by computer from an office, special forces killing all over the place.

"Both are happening today, except for Northern Europe, which supports these wars, for now. That will probably not continue beyond 2020, so I stand by that deadline.”

[workinclasszero]

40. Totally agree with this

"In the back of the minds of all world leaders will be "What if the Rethugs get back in power?"

They will never view the US as a stable ally to be counted upon again."

[laserhaas]

2. The whole world knows what is going on.

Without the U.S. backing of Israel oppressing people ' things would be a whole lot different.

America has become the dreaded EMPIRE

[TimeSnowDemos]

5. Not just Israel either

Saudis are also viewed as toxic in most places, outside of the US and UK. where they're seen as a payday.

The US left is out of step with the 'left' globally.

[laserhaas]

6. Unfortunately

Sad, but true

[TimeSnowDemos]

4. No surprise

Outside of the US Israel is viewed as an extreme and rogue state, responsible for numerous atrocities. There's no evangelicals that will prop them up, in hope of the armegeddon, like in the US.

[liberal_patriot_md]

10. Israel

Israel is doing their best to repeat the evils forced on the Jewish people, by committing them against the Palestinians.

They sit in judgment of Iran for their nuclear ambitions while possessing their own secret arsenal.

All the while receiving $4B annually in aid from the US. More than any other country except Iraq and Afghanistan.

The irony is that the evangelicals supporting Israel want to see it destroyed- but only in their timetable to usher in the end of the world.

[TimeSnowDemos]

12. Absolutely.

The nation has a very long history of illegal and immoral behavior, while using their tragic slaughter in WW2 to justify tragically massacreing people and stealing their land only decades later.

Israel has a right to exist, but it doesn't have the right to ignore international law, kill endless civilians, steal property, murder UN staff, murder US sailors, develop WMDs, etc.

If they were Iran, the US would be using this behavior as evidence of them being a rogue state engaged in terrorism. A nucler armed rogue state, engaged in terror, run by a corrupt extremist.

Aka our biggest ally in the ME.

[Delphinus]

14. I have

often thought Israel shouldn't ask us to Never Forget about the holocaust when they are doing horrific things to the Palestinian people.

[TimeSnowDemos]

15. Sure if Giuliani can

[something something] 9/11

The the Israelis can [something something] holocaust.

Equally awful.

[grossproffit]

34. What a repulsive comment. Shame on you.

[7962]

20. Yeah, I see them marching Palestinians onto trains & sent to gas chambers.....

The Palestinians would have peace if they didnt keep voting for groups who want the total elimination of Israel. As long as they continue doing what DOESNT work, they'll continue to live as they do.
Plenty of the worlds countries work hand in hand with the Israelis, they just dont do it publicly.
Iran has pledged to rid the world of Israel, no wonder Israel would be against Iran getting a nuke. Israel has had one for many years; if they were an offensive threat with them we'd already know it. They see it as security for their survival.

By the way, the US is by FAR the largest donor to the Palestinians & has been for over 20 yrs. if the rest of the world really is so concerned with their plight, maybe they should pony up some cash for them as well? How about all the Arab countries? Its not like THEY'RE poor.

[tritsofme]

23. Reason in a sea of nonsense! Thanks!

[ck4829]

24. Wow...

[grossproffit]

33. Right on!

[DetroitLegalBeagle]

44. Because the Arab governments dont care about the Palistinians

They are/were a useful propaganda tool to use against Israel and the US when they need an issue to redirect their populations anger from their own issues, but beyond that, they simply do not care about the Palistinians. None of the Arab countries want them in their own country. And now with fears of Iran, many of the Arab governments have backdoor relations and agreements with Israel now.

[7962]

45. Thats exactly right. But so few want to see that because it doesnt fit their agendas.

Israel = BAD. ALL the time. Its amazing.

[GoCubsGo]

7. Good.

[gademocrat7]

8. Haley is the worst U.N. Ambassador.

She has no credibility. She is unqualified for this position.

[Grins]

11. You forgot John Bolton...

I'm positive he was worse, and even more of a disgrace today.

[7962]

46. Bolton was/is a HUGGGE mistake. nt

[bdamomma]

22. unqualified is correct

which is a prerequisite for this evil regime we have now. Crap, make America great again,

[ck4829]

25. +1

[annabanana]

9. And we see the decline of America on the World Stage, and the irrelevance

and isolation that Trump has wrought.



The World will move on without us until we cure our sickness.

[FiveGoodMen]

47. The world had BETTER move on without us

We will only drag it down.

[Delphinus]

13. For that,

I am grateful.

[tritsofme]

16. Obama or any other Democratic president would have similarly vetoed the one-sided Kuwaiti resolution

[7962]

21. You're right. Funny how no one seems to realize that.

The Obama administration vetoed many anti-Israel resolutions over their 8 yrs.
But then, a lot of folks here have an agenda against Israel.

[TimeSnowDemos]

30. That's one reading of this

another is that the left in the US is FINALLY learning the truth about Israel and is no longer blindly supporting them, which is how the left in the rest of the world have behaved for many many years.

Only America has a rabidly pro-Israel left-wing party, and maybe that's finally changing, as it should IMO.

Supporting corrupt right-wing criminals as they massacre women and children and steal their land, while all the time making illegal WMDs.... this shouldn't be the ally of the left.

And sure enough, Trump and his allies are radically overhauling US policy to support right-wing terror in the ME... no surprise at all.

The only surprise is how many "liberals" still support Israel.

[7962]

36. Soon as the Palestinians stop attacking, they'll stop being killed. Pretty simple.

THEY are the ones who sneak into Israel and blow up buses, restaurants, schools, etc. Randomly stab and shoot people in the streets. Fire rockets DAILY into Israel, then whine when the launch site gets blown to hell.
THEY use civilians as targets. THEY use their children as fodder to get publicity. THEY do shit like THIS:

They will ALWAYS LOSE as long as they continue to do these things. How many times has Israel attacked Saudi Arabia, Jordan or Egypt in recent decades? NONE. Because they were wise enough to make peace. Now they work WITH Israel.

[TimeSnowDemos]

41. Lol'ing

I love watching 'liberals' spin themselves in knots trying to protect right wing criminals.

Come visit me here in Europe and try selling your regurgitated right wing propaganda. You'll be quickly told that thise lies won't fly if you want to be part of a left-wing group. Any left wing group.

Because only in America is murder and theft and illegal manufacture of WMDs considered left wing.

Tell me what the UN staff that Israel bombed did to deserve their fate. How stealing land for decades and then killing those that protest that theft, is moral.

How helping ISIS and al Qaeda fighters in Syria is moral.

You know who else got murdered a lot for breaking unjust laws? Slaves.

You're using the same arguments slave owners did... He broke the law, now let's murder him and his family with snipers, cut off their clean water and access to the outside world, and then blame them for their own deaths.

No matter how many times I see people who claim to be left wing in America support this butchery of women and children and endless theft from and collective punishment of the poor, I can't help but laugh at the depths of brainwashing on display.

Let me put it to you another way: if you think Israel's behavior is justified, you're no better than Trump and his racist policies. You're no better than neo-Nazis running over people in Charlottesville. You're no better than... The US propping up dictators and war criminals.

[7962]

42. You mean Europe, where anti- Semitism is rampant again? Where Jews are routinely attacked?

Save the condescending speech. The EU has its own troubles simmering & its not because of the Jews.

Every time Palestinians have been offered a state, even before WW2, they've rejected it because Israel got one too.

No Arab country ever offers anything to the Palestinians to assist them in GETTING a state. Jordan was recreated at the same time as Israel, maybe THEY could give a small piece of land to help? Nope. Because the Arab states really dont care about them. They know they've had their chances

Israel will still be sitting there 50 yrs from now, and the Palestinians will still be in their self imposed squalor. They chose their fate.

[TimeSnowDemos]

43. Lol

Whatever you say massa... Keep supporting murder and theft... However you have to justify war crimes and crimes against humanity to sleep at night.

I've heard less right wing defences of cops endlessly murdering kids than your pro-right wing atrocities propaganda.

You're the sort of person that reminds the rest of the world that the US is really full of shot when it complains about human rights violations in China, etc.

Do as we say and not as we do... Despicable.

[tritsofme]

48. Interesting that rising anti-semitism makes you "laugh out loud"

But whatever floats your boat, I guess.

[TimeSnowDemos]

49. Just another example

of your dishonesty.

Big shocker.

Like trying to conflate anti-semitism and anti-murdering of children...

Trying to conflate anti-semitism and anti-corruption...

etc.

Your schtick is transparent and disgusting.

Luckily America is waking up to it and hopefully the left in the US will send people like you back to the right-wing sewer where you get your propaganda from.

Murdering and starving and theft are not liberal values. Trying to justify them by attacking critics as anti-semitic is as old as the hills, and hasn't worked in the rest of the world for decades. America might finally be catching on.

[tritsofme]

53. You are not worth my time, thanks for playing.

[7962]

54. You know what they say, "when in Rome"....

I guess living in Europe makes one want to act like some of the Europeans; anti-israel all the time! Just trying to fit in I guess. Yet no mention of any Palestinians being "murderers". Odd..

And my video post totally ignored, even though there are SO many examples of civilians and children used by Palestinians.

[TimeSnowDemos]

55. The only one playing

is you, pretending that your game is somehow clever.

It's not.

[treestar]

52. I don't believe it

Not unless those settlements are withdrawn and the Israelis quit demanding to have a veto power over whoever the Palestinians elect as leaders.

[zipplewrath]

29. Or modified it

I think the real story here is that they can't get support for the Trump position at all, all the while not being able to massage the Kuwaiti resolution into something that could be supported. They can't seem to work with anyone.

[treestar]

51. That doesn't mean we have to support it

merely because we support Obama here does not mean we have to always agree with everything Israel does. It's our government that does, and we elect them, but when are we going to quit doing that and be more even handed?

[pazzyanne]

17. Expect tRump to withdraw the US from the UN

He doesn't handle humiliation well.

[malthaussen]

18. What, not even Nauru or Guatemala?

The end is near!

-- Mal

[malaise]

19. Good

The slaughter of Palestinians has to be stopped

[laserhaas]

50. Concur!

[gopiscrap]

26. excellent. Isreal needs to be condemned

[Crutchez_CuiBono]

27. Israel

thinks bad things happening to Americans on their behalf is just fine though. Jared Kushner will get the Ambassadorship there. Let's watch and see.
LOTS of big brains have been working on a 2 state solution for decades. Disturbing how they think slapping a semi pretty face on some capitalist at any cost, and everyone in the world will buy in. Believe it or not, lots of other countries are doing just fine. Their peoples aren't terrorized, they have jobs and income, pensions, fair time off work, oh gosh....the things go on and on. They elect people who arent power hungry and work for the people. Many of them in the very systems we taught them or implemented for them to use...loosely known as Democracy.
So glad Haley got slapped down. She thinks she's Hillary Clinton. She's not. Neither her or Ivanka will ever be president. Forever soiled under dt.

[shanny]

28. so much winning

[laserhaas]

32. I know....right

Shheesshh

[samir.g]

35. Good. Israel should be condemned by the entire world.

USA has no business being able to veto anything.

[7962]

37. So who should?