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milestogo

(16,829 posts) Mon Jun 4, 2018, 11:12 PM Jun 2018

How dumb is Paul Manafort?

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	Dumb enough to participate in money laundering
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	Dumb enough to be Donald Trump's campaign manager
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	Dumb enough to get involved with shady people in Russia and Ukraine
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	Dumb enough not to register as a foreign agent
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	Dumb enough to tamper with withnesses
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	Dumb enough to lie to Robert Mueller
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	Dumb enough to have to wear 2 ankle bracelets
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	Dumb enough to lobby for foreign dictators
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	Dumb enough to be sentenced to 300 years in prison
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	ALL OF THE ABOVE or REALLY, REALLY DUMB
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How dumb is Paul Manafort? (Original Post) milestogo Jun 2018 OP

I would add: The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2018 #1

Dumber than Douglas Feith Roland99 Jun 2018 #2

That made me wonder: what job could Feith get after such a failure? muriel_volestrangler Jun 2018 #13

Aren't they big on anti-climate change? Roland99 Jun 2018 #14

Dumb enough to wait for a pardon from Trump. ooky Jun 2018 #3

It's the hubris ... NanceGreggs Jun 2018 #4

This Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jun 2018 #5

Dumb enough to engage in witness tampering while under house arrest. oasis Jun 2018 #6

He thought they were just monitoring his ankles. milestogo Jun 2018 #11

Career criminals usually fall when they get away with it for so long.... Xolodno Jun 2018 #7

I don't believe that he is at all "dumb" Sherman A1 Jun 2018 #8

And "desperate". OnDoutside Jun 2018 #9

He's a republican Achilleaze Jun 2018 #10

When you get away with stuff long enough Maeve Jun 2018 #12

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,706 posts)

1. I would add:

Reply to milestogo (Original post)

Mon Jun 4, 2018, 11:13 PM

Jun 2018

Dumb enough not to consider the likelihood that the FBI was monitoring his communications with the witnesses he was trying to tamper with

Roland99

(53,342 posts)

2. Dumber than Douglas Feith

Reply to milestogo (Original post)

Mon Jun 4, 2018, 11:14 PM

Jun 2018

muriel_volestrangler

(101,319 posts)

13. That made me wonder: what job could Feith get after such a failure?

Reply to Roland99 (Reply #2)

Tue Jun 5, 2018, 03:00 PM

Jun 2018

Answer: director of the Center for National Security Strategies at the Hudson Institute, a conservative public policy think-tank. https://www.hudson.org/experts/552-douglas-j-feith . For about the last 10 years. Wingnut welfare is for life.

Roland99

(53,342 posts)

14. Aren't they big on anti-climate change?

Reply to muriel_volestrangler (Reply #13)

Tue Jun 5, 2018, 04:18 PM

Jun 2018

ooky

(8,923 posts)

3. Dumb enough to wait for a pardon from Trump.

Reply to milestogo (Original post)

Mon Jun 4, 2018, 11:21 PM

Jun 2018

NanceGreggs

(27,814 posts)

4. It's the hubris ...

Reply to milestogo (Original post)

Mon Jun 4, 2018, 11:37 PM

Jun 2018

... that always brings guys like this down.

He got away with so much for so long, he started to believe he was invincible.

That was his first mistake. His second mistake is still thinking that there's some way out of this.

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,996 posts)

5. This

Reply to NanceGreggs (Reply #4)

Mon Jun 4, 2018, 11:55 PM

Jun 2018

As the saying goes: Don't press your luck.

oasis

(49,387 posts)

6. Dumb enough to engage in witness tampering while under house arrest.

Reply to milestogo (Original post)

Tue Jun 5, 2018, 12:15 AM

Jun 2018

milestogo

(16,829 posts)

11. He thought they were just monitoring his ankles.

Reply to oasis (Reply #6)

Tue Jun 5, 2018, 07:51 AM

Jun 2018

Xolodno

(6,395 posts)

7. Career criminals usually fall when they get away with it for so long....

Reply to milestogo (Original post)

Tue Jun 5, 2018, 12:39 AM

Jun 2018

....that they get careless and too greedy.

This guy already had enough and was well off. Nope, he wants a bigger yacht and he can get it because no one has caught him before, right?

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)

8. I don't believe that he is at all "dumb"

Reply to milestogo (Original post)

Tue Jun 5, 2018, 05:47 AM

Jun 2018

I believe that hubris very well caused him to overreach and as pointed out above when you get away with something for so very long, why would you not continue to do so?

OnDoutside

(19,956 posts)

9. And "desperate".

Reply to milestogo (Original post)

Tue Jun 5, 2018, 06:28 AM

Jun 2018

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)

10. He's a republican

Reply to milestogo (Original post)

Tue Jun 5, 2018, 07:16 AM

Jun 2018

'nuf said.

Maeve

(42,282 posts)

12. When you get away with stuff long enough

Reply to milestogo (Original post)

Tue Jun 5, 2018, 08:16 AM

Jun 2018

you begin to believe you are bulletproof. Once you reach a certain financial level, it becomes much easier to get away with stuff that would send a 'normal' person to jail, but no one even questions you--if you're that rich you must be smart, right?

And thinking you are smart can lead to acting really dumb. Once the legal eagles start circling, the vultures aren't far behind.

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