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Is the Special Counsel's investigation giving Donald Trump extra time he might not have if he had to answer to political pressures if there was no Special Counsel? Is the Mueller investigation giving politicians from both Parties an excuse to not get involved because it might interfere with the investigation?
In the interim, he is getting away with stuff no one would ever try to get away with. He is using the investigation as a shield to protect himself from political consequences.
Just a thought...
BSdetect
(8,999 posts)Hence drumph and gangs continued deal making with impunity.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,836 posts)The investigation is proceeding on its own timeline, and is being done carefully and thoroughly. Watergate took a lot longer and was less complicated. Let them do their jobs and stop whining about how long it's taking.
kentuck
(111,110 posts)I'll whine if I take a notion!
GoCubsGo
(32,088 posts)And, just because he appears to be getting away with things now, it doesn't mean he will in the end. Most likely, he and his crime syndicate are going to wish they were headed to a federal prison, rather than somewhere like Sing Sing or Southport. That asshole and his handlers don't seem to understand that there are a ton of state prosecutors on the case, and he can't pardon state crimes.
Anon-C
(3,430 posts)blake2012
(1,294 posts)Hahahahahahahahahaha!!
Oh brother.
manor321
(3,344 posts)Kimba Wood needlessly delayed the Cohen case with this stupid special master crap, and now says materials will go to the taint team anyway if Cohen's lawyers can't finish soon! Needless and long delay which has allowed Trump to get Giuliani going.
Also the judge in CA who delayed the Stormy Daniels case due to the NY Cohen case. These judges are fiddling while fascism takes over.
Mueller has a massive investigation to handle. He can't go for the mob boss or his family until everything is ready.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,836 posts)of materials they had to review. Have you ever tried a case in federal court? Read the Constitution?
Girard442
(6,084 posts)Not so much that I think Mueller is a Trump co-conspirator, but that we're all just content to sit on our hands thinking that he's got this -- until the day he's suddenly whisked away and all his work-in-progress boxed up and stuck in a secret warehouse somewhere.
The reality is that nefarious stuff that Trump and his people have openly openly admitted to should be enough to impeach him. We shouldn't have to wait to find out, say, the exact amount down to the penny that Eric has filched from the petty cash drawer.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)country. Personally, I don't see what waiting for trump to testify will accomplish. Catching him on a lie, isn't going to take trump down.
The country needs to know what Mueller has before the election, not years after.
meadowlark5
(2,795 posts)Mueller needs to have mountains of substantiated evidence to make sure the crooks that surrounding Trump, including the house and senate, don't find a tiny hole in which to save Trump.
Additionally, I think he has to be careful who he might indict too early. If, say, he had something on Nunes and could indict him or Roger Stone, I think that would send Trump into panic mode and fire someone to stop this all.
Mueller, I think, knows what he's dealing with here and needs to be very careful. I know I'd love to see someone get indicted just to show me Mueller is finding plenty. But I'd rather he make a rock solid case to take the whole mob down.
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)found a stunning amount of evidence of a Foreign Power in Collusion with wealthy Americans to subvert our Constitution.
Keep seeing a 1948 Law that Team Mueller is using to charge people with. All I know about it is this,during the Fifties it was used to charge Persons with Crimes Against the United States. That would mean this Law can be tailored to fit certain crimes.
When we here Trump crying about were is Roy Cohn, Trump understands the quicksand he is standing in. He knows his ass is grass and Team Mueller just sharpened the Lawn Mower Blade.
kentuck
(111,110 posts)This is serious shit people.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,836 posts)Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)that was the Alein Sedition Act that was used on the Rosenberg's.
The 1948 law snared their five co-conspirators .
kentuck
(111,110 posts)Julius was arrested in July 1950, and Ethel in August of that same year, on the charge of conspiracy to commit espionage. Specifically, they were accused of heading a spy ring that passed top-secret information concerning the atomic bomb to the Soviet Union.
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)Los Alamos labs. Believe the five were charged and convicted under the 48' Law of crimes against the USA.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)have become normalized, but it'd be a mistake for us drama addicts to get too impatient for the denouement. After all, that signals end of show. Then a new one, of course, but unlikely to be as bizarrely humorous or lively.
JI7
(89,264 posts)kentuck
(111,110 posts)...as far as I can tell?
It seems so obvious to me that it is obstruction of justice, also.
They are arguing whether or not the President is above the law? At least, that is what I am hearing.
JI7
(89,264 posts)kentuck
(111,110 posts)In my opinion, the Democrats are playing defense at this time. I suppose that is a planned strategy? Just let Mueller do his job and prepare for the November elections. I don't know whether or not that is a good strategy?
JI7
(89,264 posts)And why are you giving republicans a pass as if their intentions are good.
kentuck
(111,110 posts)It takes two to tango, the old saying goes. It will take compromise on both sides if they wish to fix this "problem", in my opinion. I would agree that this is not marching in goosestep.
JI7
(89,264 posts)kentuck
(111,110 posts)So what do we do about it? Nothing? Because Republicans will not compromise with us?
Shouldn't they be able to communicate with each other? I would hope that they are.
Personally, if I had anything to say about it, I would favor indicting Trump and forcing it to the Sjupreme Court as quickly as possible. We need to get this possible crisis under control.
Is the President above the law or is he not? If he is not above the law, then he must answer to the same laws as Joe Citizen. That has been a cornerstone of our Justice System since the beginning of our nation, so far as I know?? Isn't that why we broke away from King George and Britain?
Vinca
(50,303 posts)NewsCenter28
(1,835 posts)Mueller and Rosenstein are fiddling while Rome burns with Trumps approval rating skyrocketing and our generic ballot lead crashing. Rosenstein and Mueller are both showing themselves to be toothless tigers. I. Actually. Trusted. Them. And they let me down by letting the asshole Trump define them and destroy any credibility the investigation has. Disgusting!
kentuck
(111,110 posts)I think they are doing their jobs the best that they can.
My point is that while they are doing their job, the Mobster and his fixers are doing very dramatic damage to our country and our institutions.
They are not wittingly helping Trump, in my opinion.
Mr. Ected
(9,670 posts)That can be applied to Robert Mueller.
To be honest, my faith in America and the rule of law rests foursquare on that man's shoulders.
If I'm mistaken in my judgment of him, my belief system would be irreparably shattered.
kentuck
(111,110 posts)That scares me very much.