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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forumsoh my gosh I totally get the C--- word now!!!...
Thank you Rebecca Traister!! Good show Chris!
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oh my gosh I totally get the C--- word now!!!... (Original Post)
samnsara
Jun 2018
OP
yep; some people will look for any excuse to use gender-based insults against women. nt
TheFrenchRazor
Jun 2018
#9
Presumably her argument was something like that she wrote for New York Magazine:
muriel_volestrangler
Jun 2018
#10
Stinky The Clown
(67,818 posts)1. She as very compelling
irisblue
(33,023 posts)2. So, a hint for the non cable ppl?
RandomAccess
(5,210 posts)3. Yeah, what was so compelling?
DURHAM D
(32,611 posts)4. Yes. Good segment.
All those people who were critical because they are not regular S. Bee watchers can get some good schooling.
As for those who know her feminist history and were fainting and wailing over her use of the word, I already knew what you were doing.
Grassy Knoll
(10,118 posts)5. Yep, Context Is Everything...
Thank You.
mythology
(9,527 posts)8. There's no context in which calling a woman that on public television is okay
TheFrenchRazor
(2,116 posts)9. yep; some people will look for any excuse to use gender-based insults against women. nt
Raine
(30,540 posts)11. Yes, exactly. nt
uppityperson
(115,680 posts)6. What did they say?
kacekwl
(7,021 posts)7. Can't Understand Normal Thinking.
muriel_volestrangler
(101,361 posts)10. Presumably her argument was something like that she wrote for New York Magazine:
It is true that in her critique of Ivanka Trump, Bee used an expletive that is explicitly misogynistic; it is wholly reasonable to object to the word [] for feminist reasons. It is also reasonable and worthwhile to consider why a term for female anatomy has become such a potent pejorative; why does a word that means vagina also mean very bad person? Thats a valid question, but its crucial to consider it in this context. Bee was not reinforcing or replicating the crude harm that [] has been used to inflict historically: the patriarchal diminishment and vilification of women. In fact, Bee was using it to criticize a woman precisely because that woman is acting on behalf of that patriarchy, one that systematically diminishes women, destroys families, and hurts children.
https://www.thecut.com/2018/05/samantha-bee-ivanka-trump-full-frontal.html
https://www.thecut.com/2018/05/samantha-bee-ivanka-trump-full-frontal.html
But, I think, the argument is that Traister is wrong about this "not reinforcing ... the crude harm [it] has been used to inflict historically". Because it's a female anatomy term being used to be "the worst thing possible", it's harmful to women in general when used, even when used to refer to a particular man (as in British and Australian speech).