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oh my gosh I totally get the C--- word now!!!... (Original Post) samnsara Jun 2018 OP
She as very compelling Stinky The Clown Jun 2018 #1
So, a hint for the non cable ppl? irisblue Jun 2018 #2
Yeah, what was so compelling? RandomAccess Jun 2018 #3
Yes. Good segment. DURHAM D Jun 2018 #4
Yep, Context Is Everything... Grassy Knoll Jun 2018 #5
There's no context in which calling a woman that on public television is okay mythology Jun 2018 #8
yep; some people will look for any excuse to use gender-based insults against women. nt TheFrenchRazor Jun 2018 #9
Yes, exactly. nt Raine Jun 2018 #11
What did they say? uppityperson Jun 2018 #6
Can't Understand Normal Thinking. kacekwl Jun 2018 #7
Presumably her argument was something like that she wrote for New York Magazine: muriel_volestrangler Jun 2018 #10

DURHAM D

(32,611 posts)
4. Yes. Good segment.
Fri Jun 1, 2018, 09:37 PM
Jun 2018

All those people who were critical because they are not regular S. Bee watchers can get some good schooling.

As for those who know her feminist history and were fainting and wailing over her use of the word, I already knew what you were doing.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,361 posts)
10. Presumably her argument was something like that she wrote for New York Magazine:
Sat Jun 2, 2018, 04:17 AM
Jun 2018
It is true that in her critique of Ivanka Trump, Bee used an expletive that is explicitly misogynistic; it is wholly reasonable to object to the word [] for feminist reasons. It is also reasonable and worthwhile to consider why a term for female anatomy has become such a potent pejorative; why does a word that means vagina also mean “very bad person”? That’s a valid question, but it’s crucial to consider it in this context. Bee was not reinforcing or replicating the crude harm that “[]” has been used to inflict historically: the patriarchal diminishment and vilification of women. In fact, Bee was using it to criticize a woman precisely because that woman is acting on behalf of that patriarchy, one that systematically diminishes women, destroys families, and hurts children.

https://www.thecut.com/2018/05/samantha-bee-ivanka-trump-full-frontal.html

But, I think, the argument is that Traister is wrong about this "not reinforcing ... the crude harm [it] has been used to inflict historically". Because it's a female anatomy term being used to be "the worst thing possible", it's harmful to women in general when used, even when used to refer to a particular man (as in British and Australian speech).

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