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ProSense

(116,464 posts)
Fri Aug 3, 2012, 01:00 PM Aug 2012

Romney To Harry Reid: You’re Wrong About My Taxes

Romney To Harry Reid: You’re Wrong About My Taxes

Mitt Romney told reporters on Friday that Harry Reid is “simply wrong” about his taxes. “Harry, who are your sources?” Romney said. “I have paid taxes every year … and a lot of taxes.”

Reid claims that a Bain Capital investor told him that Romney didn’t pay taxes for 10 years.”

http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entries/romney-to-harry-reid-youre-wrong-about-my


Mitt, ABC is still waiting:

Despite telling ABC News over the weekend he’d be “happy” to hand over more information on his past tax returns, Mitt Romney has yet to follow up on their request.

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But ABC says Romney officials have not gotten back to them on whether Romney ever paid a lower tax rate than 13.9% despite their repeated queries. Instead, they received a rehash of Romney’s already disclosed taxes and charitable donations from 2010, suggesting that Romney may have overpromised in his interview what his campaign was willing to reveal.

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http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/07/romney-keeps-abc-waiting-for-promised-tax-information.php


Romney Not Sure If He’s Ever Paid Tax Rate Lower Than 13.9 Percent

Mitt Romney said he doesn’t know if he’s ever paid a tax rate lower than 13.9 percent – the rate he paid in 2010 according to the one year of tax returns he has released thus far – the presumptive nominee told ABC’s David Muir in an interview Sunday, via ABC’s Emily Friedman.

Emily Friedman@EmilyABC

Romney tells @DavidMuir he doesn't know if there was a year when he paid a tax rate lower than 13.9%. Says he'll have to go back and look.

http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entries/romney-not-sure-if-hes-ever-paid-tax


...Mitt Romney has thus far refused to heed the call from a growing number of people within the Republican party to release more tax returns. And during an interview with ABC’s David Muir from Israel, the former Massachusetts governor revealed that the documents may show that he paid very little in taxes:

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http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2012/07/29/602501/romney-doesnt-know-if-he-paid-a-tax-rate-lower-than-139


OOPS! Mitt's 2010 Tax Returns NOT Fully Disclosed
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002969609

Experts’ Best Guesses On Romney’s Swiss Bank Account
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021011251

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Romney To Harry Reid: You’re Wrong About My Taxes (Original Post) ProSense Aug 2012 OP
Prove it, Willard. Skidmore Aug 2012 #1
We would like to see some numbers Rosa Luxemburg Aug 2012 #24
Romney can make this all go away - Release the Tax returns. liberal N proud Aug 2012 #2
This is something that just won't stop Life Long Dem Aug 2012 #3
Kruggerands........ lastlib Aug 2012 #11
I'm amazed by his conduct... brooklynite Aug 2012 #4
The Person Who KNOWS for sure if Romney Paid Zero taxes for 10 yrs... Blackhatjack Aug 2012 #5
Rick Davis is the one who was tasked to vett rMoneys taxes IIRC, he knows th details and should uponit7771 Aug 2012 #7
Prove it Romney SunsetDreams Aug 2012 #6
Prove it, Milt. Arkana Aug 2012 #8
Ha! 'Milt' louis-t Aug 2012 #18
T-H-E-N P-R-O-V-E I-T TheCowsCameHome Aug 2012 #9
The source would be wrong not Reid. Reid is just sharing what he was told. chowder66 Aug 2012 #10
Harry is only relating what he heard. Mitt needs to bring in his taxes to disprove the Bain investor The Wielding Truth Aug 2012 #14
What if they find the source buy him off and he admits after the payoff that INdemo Aug 2012 #17
I think there is more than one source and at this point chowder66 Aug 2012 #22
Well they silenced the awol issue with Junior INdemo Aug 2012 #25
he probably means when he buys a danish sweet roll on occasion passing through an airport tomm2thumbs Aug 2012 #12
Romney: "Put up or shut up Harry. Let's see those tax returns" aint_no_life_nowhere Aug 2012 #13
Prove it, Mittens. Release your tax returns. The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2012 #15
The corporate media have all the scripts in place and they INdemo Aug 2012 #16
It should be easy enough to prove him wrong ... if you could. lpbk2713 Aug 2012 #19
Prove it... Aviation Pro Aug 2012 #20
Of course he could have paid 13.9% in taxes, theoretically... progressivebydesign Aug 2012 #21
BREAKING: Republicans are furious that a white man is being asked for his papers. (LOL) Tx4obama Aug 2012 #23
What's Encouraging about this to me Grammy23 Aug 2012 #26

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
1. Prove it, Willard.
Fri Aug 3, 2012, 01:03 PM
Aug 2012

Why do I vaguely recall one of his spokes people a few days ago making some suggestion that there may have been a year or so that Romney payed no taxes? I swear I saw that on one of the news programs.

PS. Willard, I want to see the original filings with your signature on them too.

Blackhatjack

(11,061 posts)
5. The Person Who KNOWS for sure if Romney Paid Zero taxes for 10 yrs...
Fri Aug 3, 2012, 01:22 PM
Aug 2012

Republican Senator JOHN MCCAIN KNOWS .....

When McCain was vetting potential VP running mates in 2008, it was reported that the people who were involved in the process reported that ROMNEY turned over tax returns that go back further than 10 years. McCain would have had access to Romney's tax returns in weighing his VP choice.

Given John McCain's penchant for having his aids read and review everything on a wide array of topics and then give him a short oral summary, it is highly likely that additional McCain campaign staff saw the ROMNEY tax returns and/or heard the oral summary that would definitely pointed out this fact, if true.

I would expect that if John McCain were questioned about his knowledge of Romney's tax returns in the vetting process that he would take the no comment route instead of backing up Romney's claims.

** What would be ironic would be Sarah Palin having access to Mitt's tax returns as the McCain VP choice. Just imagine Mitt telling Palin she will not have a speaking role at the Repub Convention, and what she might do in response.

uponit7771

(90,367 posts)
7. Rick Davis is the one who was tasked to vett rMoneys taxes IIRC, he knows th details and should
Fri Aug 3, 2012, 01:27 PM
Aug 2012

...have communicated to the GOP by now if there's anything in them

chowder66

(9,086 posts)
10. The source would be wrong not Reid. Reid is just sharing what he was told.
Fri Aug 3, 2012, 02:31 PM
Aug 2012

He even questioned it by saying "He didn't pay taxes for 10 years! Now, do I know that that's true? Well, I'm not certain," said Reid.

So in my opinion Reid covered his tracks. If it is being rumored that Romney didn't pay taxes then Romney brought that on himself.
Sorry Romney, even if you did pay, the fact that you have not even released a full year yet is going to lead everyone who is curious to speculate. That includes politicians who are beginning to wonder why you refuse to release them considering the precedent your own father set. .

This guy, whether he paid or not is not the issue - at least it isn't a proven issue as of yet. The real issue here is why does this single citizen of the United States think he can skip the vetting process? His self importance is on display and it isn't good.

So if he isn't hiding anything because he says he paid then what is he doing then? Is he deliberatly trying to lose this? Did someone pay him to throw the election for some unknown reason?

I'm going to put on my tinfoil hat and go out on a limb here;
Maybe the republicans are setting this all up (if they win, wow - if they don't, they achieve a goal).
The goal being to get the worst of the worst, the most hated candidate, the Republican nomination. Then in future elections they can throw in horrible candidates with shitty policy but who are an ounce better than Romney. Anyone will look better to them than Romney.

And once again it will move everything even further to the right.

INdemo

(6,994 posts)
17. What if they find the source buy him off and he admits after the payoff that
Fri Aug 3, 2012, 03:35 PM
Aug 2012

"he didnt say that"Then what ? and this could very easily happen..The source could be a millionaire overnight..

chowder66

(9,086 posts)
22. I think there is more than one source and at this point
Fri Aug 3, 2012, 08:59 PM
Aug 2012

if that did happen the damage has been done. If the source says he lied it still doesn't mean Romney isn't hiding something or playing games. The drumbeat will continue until either he releases the returns (and if they are clean - then the dems can go after him for distracting the nation on important matters) or he just loses the election due to his snake oil salesman bullshit.

INdemo

(6,994 posts)
25. Well they silenced the awol issue with Junior
Sat Aug 4, 2012, 09:48 AM
Aug 2012

and the corporate media followed the script to a T..and we know how that turned out with Rather being fired because corporate money wanted that to happen etc.etc.....so with this tax return issue millions can change a persons mind and lie and the corporate media will do the rest.

aint_no_life_nowhere

(21,925 posts)
13. Romney: "Put up or shut up Harry. Let's see those tax returns"
Fri Aug 3, 2012, 02:57 PM
Aug 2012

After Reid produces the name of his witness, Romney will then challenge Reid to prove it further.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,879 posts)
15. Prove it, Mittens. Release your tax returns.
Fri Aug 3, 2012, 03:15 PM
Aug 2012

If your returns prove Reid is wrong you can rub his nose in it. So what's holding you back?

INdemo

(6,994 posts)
16. The corporate media have all the scripts in place and they
Fri Aug 3, 2012, 03:32 PM
Aug 2012

are spinning this and trying to put this all back on Reid..
It could be working..
NBC is spinning it but I think they are part of his campaign perhaps in an advisory capacity...But they all have the same talking points.
Here is Anderson reading the script on CNN..unbelievable..

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/bestoftv/2012/08/03/ac-begala-matalin-reid-romney-taxes.cnn

progressivebydesign

(19,458 posts)
21. Of course he could have paid 13.9% in taxes, theoretically...
Fri Aug 3, 2012, 03:52 PM
Aug 2012

BUT in his mind saying he "paid" those taxes, which where then offset by the most ridiculous and far-flung deductions and credits, would leave him not paying taxes in the end, ala tax refunds. He may have been paying quarterly on his taxes, but everything came back to him after his team of accountants (whom he probably pays more than most Americans make in 10 years,) worked the system, he could have gotten it all back.

Remember.. Romney is the kind of word salad. He's the most dishonest candidate since Nixon... he talks AROUND things, like the most skilled grifter around. Not to be trusted. He knows exactly what he's saying, and chooses words way too carefully. That's one of the things I dislike about him SO much. In interviews he NEVER hesitates, he gives a controlled non-answer designed to decieve.

Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
23. BREAKING: Republicans are furious that a white man is being asked for his papers. (LOL)
Fri Aug 3, 2012, 10:24 PM
Aug 2012

Saw that on Twitter

Grammy23

(5,815 posts)
26. What's Encouraging about this to me
Sat Aug 4, 2012, 01:01 PM
Aug 2012

The most encouraging thing about this whole mess to me is that Romney and his campaign have not been able to make this go away. For all of his clever talk and careful wording of statements that conveniently left out the word "Income", he has not been able to make it all disappear into the blather. And more than a few of us caught the fact that he left out the word income, referring to the taxes he has paid and we won't forget about it.

His past behavior (as shown by Rachel so nicely last night....Thanks, Rach!) should give us all warning that he is not going to give up easily on this refusal to release his tax forms. Being doggedly stubborn apparently has worked for him in the past so why should he change his strategy now? I truly believe this issue is going to be a thorn in his side all the way to election day.

When are the debates scheduled? If the issue of how much he has paid in income taxes is not a major one that should be included in the questions, I don't know what qualifies more! He usually has a nervous laugh when he talks about this issue so he should be laughing like a hyena during the debates. Hope the American people (who are planning to vote for him) can see through this and realize how much he is telling us about himself ..... without saying a word. Dishonest, lying, hypocrite.

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