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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsPBS has confirmed that some of these children have been released to HUMAN TRAFFICKERS by the US gov.
This is MONSTROUS.
Link to tweet
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/hhs-official-says-agency-lost-track-of-nearly-1500-unaccompanied-minors/
Guilded Lilly
(5,591 posts)is whitewashed (figuratively and literally) under the guise of the Land of the Free meme but this just physically sickens me.
marble falls
(57,097 posts)DesertRat
(27,995 posts)Link to tweet
marble falls
(57,097 posts)madville
(7,410 posts)They have been trying to locate these children since October 2016 after the Senate report was released. As of December 2017 6100 of the original 7600 have been located but 1500 are still unaccounted for.
surrealAmerican
(11,361 posts)This goes back at least as far as 2014. We have a history of treating unaccompanied minor immigrants like garbage. We just have more data now.
mountain grammy
(26,622 posts)spanone
(135,838 posts)Takket
(21,573 posts)Why are the betworjs not breaking in on normal coverage for this?
madville
(7,410 posts)Here is the 2016 Senate report that prompted HHS to start trying to track these minors down in October of 2016.
https://www.hsgac.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/Majority%20&%20Minority%20Staff%20Report%20-%20Protecting%20Unaccompanied%20Alien%20Children%20from%20Trafficking%20and%20Other%20Abuses%202016-01-282.pdf
They started trying to locate these minors in October 2016 and by December of 2017 had still not located 1500 of the 7600 that were missing.
Demsrule86
(68,582 posts)Children from Trafficking and Other
Abuses: The Role of the Office of
Refugee Resettlement
TABLE OF CONTENTS
Trump is ripping kids away from their parents. And we all know any report out of a Republican Senate is bullshit.
madville
(7,410 posts)And it covers a period from 2014-2016. That's the time period that it was discovered some kids had been turned over to human traffickers. The PBS article's primary reference is that Senate report and the hearing this week is admonishing HHS for only being able to find 6100 of the 7600 missing children since they began searching for them in October of 2016.
Demsrule86
(68,582 posts)Read further and these were unaccompanied minors...not kids taken away from parents. We have a shitty foster program mostly and I am sure the ICE folks are even worse.
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Dr Hobbitstein
(6,568 posts)Also, pretty sure you just nailed Alt-White Bingo.
sandensea
(21,636 posts)If it's corrupt and inhuman, you can always count on this regime to be either behind it or around it.
RandomAccess
(5,210 posts)And I said so at least twice in the last 2 days and alluded to it once.
There are children that will never be found or heard from / about again. A majority of them. Some will end up dead or are dead already. And the evil bastards that gave them to traffickers are unlikely to ever be brought to justice.
marylandblue
(12,344 posts)I am ashamed.
madville
(7,410 posts)They identified these children were missing because of the 2016 Senate report. HHS then started trying to locate them in October of 2016 and had not located 1500 of the 7600 by December 2017.
Thanks for continually pointing this out.
Demsrule86
(68,582 posts)foster homes were needed.
marylandblue
(12,344 posts)It said that HHS has not been protecting children since at least 2014 and there was a "scathing" Senate report in 2016.
grantcart
(53,061 posts)
In 2014, at least 10 trafficking victims, including eight minors, were discovered during a raid by federal and local law enforcement in Portmans home state of Ohio
When you put the heading of the OP were you aware that out of 47,000 unaccompanied minors they were talking about 10 who were confirmed in 2014, or just the headline?
its complicated but the 1500 are families who are hiding because they have had their legal status ripped away
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210658852
Bluesaph
(703 posts)If these kids are being released to traffickers I would rather sponsor a couple and try and find their parents.
Wwcd
(6,288 posts)dlk
(11,566 posts)Human Trafficking is but one of many ugly outcomes from the toxic masculinity teaching that some people are less than fully human (e.g., animals, rapists, whores, and so forth ad infinitum). We have seen this toxic masculinity acted out not only during the Holocaust, but also during the many "ethnic cleansings" throughout the world since (Bosnia, Rwanda). Until the root cause is adequately openly discussed and addressed, the death and destruction will continue. For those who believe "it can't happen here in America," I say, look around. Who would have ever believed we would have Nazis openly marching through our streets or running for public office?
certainot
(9,090 posts)and those stations are what made this all possible in the first place
here's a local racist asshole pat frisch on a new mexican mega limbaugh station kkob 11/22/16 attacking santa fe govt for resisting trump and naming the capitol a sanctuary city, transcribed from a podcast w no ads unfortunately. but it is the station that unm lobos broadcast on and the school even advertises on it - touting diversity!
pat frisch, filling in for bob clark, in reference to santuary cities defying trump "ever seen the movies "Purge" or whatever they are? Isn't that the name of it the Night of the Purge or something was the sequel or whatever. If you've never seen these movies you want to look at something very very bizarre. But some people may say hey maybe that's not a bad idea. You watch one of those movies. OK. Basically what it is in a nutshell is for like 12 hours under this fictitious world in the purge you're allowed to kill whoever you want. Is that correct basically Jen commit whatever crime between like sunset and sunrise 12 hours you commit any crime you can kill whoever you want they call it the "Purge".
this is the same kind of crap blasted across the country re immigration for more than a decade, started largely by karl rove to help ALEC sell voter suppression lies vs 'illegals' and brown people.
why is anyone surprised?
americans have to go on the offensive
heres my suggestion on how to destroy their most important liars the only real advantage they have talk radio
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it wont take long for advertisers and the advertising industry and the universities and pro sports teams to get the message and desert rw radio.
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"Your advertisement was found in a transcription of the Rush Limbaugh (or other local or national blowhard) show on station KKxx along with more than 40 other companies.
I want to express my thanks. Thanks a lot for Trump. And thanks for the global warming denial, racism, defunding of public schools, tax breaks for billionaires and their mega-corporations, increasing health care worries for me and my family, and for turning the Party of Lincoln into the Party of Limbaugh and Putin.
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Duppers
(28,123 posts)"The agency has faced increased scrutiny following a scathing 2016 report from the committee that found it failed to protect unaccompanied minors from traffickers and other abuses."
The agency has needed a major overhaul but instead TRump, et al have made things so much worse that it's criminal.
madville
(7,410 posts)Yes, most of this originated during the Obama Administration. This article is pointing out that the problems have still not been addressed. I'm not sure how the government is supposed to actively "track" released minor immigrants that don't show up for immigration court though. They can't be detained indefinitely but we can't expect them to wear a monitoring device like a criminal either.
Duppers
(28,123 posts)for wider dissemination
madville
(7,410 posts)Here is the linked report from the article that the Senate generated in 2016 recognizing this very issue that was going on during the Obama Administration. The issue was brought into the limelight originally in 2016 but it looks like it has still not been fixed.
https://www.hsgac.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/Majority%20&%20Minority%20Staff%20Report%20-%20Protecting%20Unaccompanied%20Alien%20Children%20from%20Trafficking%20and%20Other%20Abuses%202016-01-282.pdf
This brings up another point. How is a government agency supposed to actively "track" released minors short of making them wear a monitoring device like a criminal on house arrest?
grantcart
(53,061 posts)In most cases they were released to their families who were already here and were no longer unaccompanied.
A small number (PBS identifies 10) were released to traffickers posing as relatives.
The unaccompanied minors were given a court date to appear before an Immigration Court. In most cases they would be added to their families legal TPS (Temporary Protection Status).
Trump has taken away the families TPS status.
The unaccompanied minors and their families have NO LEGAL recourse to stay here anymore. They were legal one day and illegal the next.
Details here
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210658852
There were a total of 47,000 that were "caught and released" and 90% were handed to their families (Brookings Institute)
In 2014 over a period of 4 months a small number ( PBS reports 10) unaccompanied minors were placed with individuals who were not their parents and not legitimate foster parents. Indictments were made and the report you cite is in response to what seems to be a very isolated incident 4 years ago.
The most likely explanation is that the traffickers made the connection with the children before they entered the US and when they went into the system had enough information to pose as relatives and take them from ICE when they were released pending an immigration hearing, which they obviously didn't show up for.
treestar
(82,383 posts)aunts/uncles or cousins, who might exploit the kid anyway. There are cases of even legal immigrants getting taken advantage of by their relatives - unpaid labor in their businesses and the like.
DFW
(54,396 posts)The Republicans were apparently way ahead of me...........
Ferrets are Cool
(21,106 posts)grantcart
(53,061 posts)During 5 years of the Obama administration 47,000 unaccompanied minors were handed over to the Border Patrol (they were not caught) and put into the system
It is estimated that 90% of these children (Brookings institute) were related to migrants who were here legally (but could not petition for their children)
In 2014 during a 4 month period it was discovered (and that is what the PBS report that the OP is referring to ) ten, repeat ten unaccompanied minors were handed to people posing as relatives.
The Senate had a thorough investigation
https://www.hsgac.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/Majority%20&%20Minority%20Staff%20Report%20-%20Protecting%20Unaccompanied%20Alien%20Children%20from%20Trafficking%20and%20Other%20Abuses%202016-01-282.pdf
Just to be clear the OP is saying that PBS is confirming that in 2014 10 minors were handed to traffickers. Procedures were evaluated and changed and there is no record of any further incidents since then.
The real issue is the 320,000 migrants who were legal and no longer are. Their families no longer have any legal recourse. Legal one day, illegal the next, so they stopped going to immigration court and are classified as missing. They are hiding.
More details here:
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210658852
Ferrets are Cool
(21,106 posts)Uncle Joe
(58,364 posts)Thanks for the thread DesertRat
treestar
(82,383 posts)But if it can happen, it shows a weakness in "security." We are spending a fortune on security, but apparently don't apply the concept to non-Americans.
grantcart
(53,061 posts)The PBS report is regarding an incident in 2014 where over a period of 4 months a small number (maybe as few as 10) minors were given to traffickers that were posing as relatives.
As explained in the reply above a Senate hearing was conducted and changes made.
https://www.hsgac.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/Majority%20&%20Minority%20Staff%20Report%20-%20Protecting%20Unaccompanied%20Alien%20Children%20from%20Trafficking%20and%20Other%20Abuses%202016-01-282.pdf
The general question about the 1500 "missing children" is being conflated between the story of 47,000 unaccompanied minors between 2014 and 2017 and the new policy of taking accompanied minors and separating them from their parents.
More details here
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210658852
lunamagica
(9,967 posts)madville
(7,410 posts)HHS has been trying to locate the missing children since October 2016, 6100 out of 7600 have been found so far.