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sunonmars

(8,656 posts)
Fri May 25, 2018, 08:01 PM May 2018

FBI has obtained wiretaps of Russian Mobster and Trump JR will be crapping himself

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trumps-son-concerned-wiretaps-show-trump-jr-met-putin-ally-231215529.html



The FBI has obtained secret wiretaps collected by Spanish police of conversations involving Alexander Torshin, a deputy governor of Russia’s Central Bank who has forged close ties with U.S. lawmakers and the National Rifle Association, that led to a meeting with Donald Trump Jr. during the gun lobby’s annual convention in Louisville, Ky., in May 2016, a top Spanish prosecutor said Friday.

José Grinda, who has spearheaded investigations into Spanish organized crime, said that bureau officials in recent months requested and were provided transcripts of wiretapped conversations between Torshin and Alexander Romanov, a convicted Russian money launderer. On the wiretaps, Romanov refers to Torshin as “El Padrino,” the godfather.

“Just a few months ago, the wiretaps of these telephone conversations were given to the FBI,” Grinda said in response to a question from Yahoo News during a talk he gave at the Hudson Institute, a conservative think tank in Washington. Asked if he was concerned about Torshin’s meetings with Donald Trump Jr. and other American political figures, Grinda replied: “Mr. Trump’s son should be concerned.”

The comments by Grinda were the first clear sign that the FBI may be investigating Torshin, possibly as a part of special counsel Robert Mueller’s probe into Russian interference in the 2016 U.S. presidential election. Torshin — a close political ally of Vladimir Putin — had multiple contacts with conservative activists in the United States during the election, seeking to set up a summit between the Russian president and then candidate Trump. Although the summit never transpired, Torshin did meet briefly with the president’s son at a private dinner in Louisville during the May 2016 annual convention of the NRA. A member of the NRA since 2012, Torshin has been a regular attendee of the group’s conventions in recent years and hosted senior members of the group in Moscow.

Grinda said that the FBI, in its request for the evidence to the Guardia Civil, the Spanish National Police, provided no explanation as to why it was interested in the material and he didn’t ask for one. “I don’t have to ask them why they want this information,” he said. But Grinda added that if Mueller or any other U.S. prosecutor seeks to use the material as part of a court case, they would have to make a second, more formal request to do so to the Spanish government.

Spokesmen for the FBI and Mueller’s office did not respond to requests for comment. Alan Futerfas, a lawyer for Trump Jr., said he was in a meeting and was unable to comment when contacted by Yahoo News.
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FBI has obtained wiretaps of Russian Mobster and Trump JR will be crapping himself (Original Post) sunonmars May 2018 OP
This is why Conman has been on Twitter all week. Dawson Leery May 2018 #1
He is panicking. triron May 2018 #4
Post removed Post removed May 2018 #11
Correction jayschool2013 May 2018 #41
I had to run to yahoo to check and THERE IT IS in all it's glory. I'm about to go out....but Kirk Lover May 2018 #2
Thieving Trump Crime Family sharedvalues May 2018 #3
I cancelled a credit card issued by MBNA. BobTheSubgenius May 2018 #12
Awesome news!! InAbLuEsTaTe May 2018 #5
OMG!!!! I can't wait to see all this happening!! onecent May 2018 #6
Spread this story FAR and WIDE!!! writes3000 May 2018 #7
K and R BadgerMom May 2018 #8
I love it! I thought Mueller would get help from friendly intelligence services YessirAtsaFact May 2018 #9
and this raises another problem for Don azureblue May 2018 #42
But CNN is talking about the N Korean summit. triron May 2018 #10
I would have thought by now... quickesst May 2018 #33
It's not even an object--more like a laser pointer Maeve May 2018 #37
This is the clearest, most decidedly salient and important development in a while. BobTheSubgenius May 2018 #13
Maybe it was Spain who had a "wiretapp" on trump tower? George II May 2018 #14
You were reading my mind. BigmanPigman May 2018 #22
K&R FailureToCommunicate May 2018 #15
Will Trump try to strong-arm Spain? KY_EnviroGuy May 2018 #16
kick for visibility triron May 2018 #17
I'll bet Sr. needs an extra dose of high blood pressure meds tonight C Moon May 2018 #18
Or a bucket of extra crispy. smirkymonkey May 2018 #23
:D C Moon May 2018 #32
Spain has helped out before. leanforward May 2018 #19
I just this morning saw this gentleman's name for the first time in a tweet about how he's cracking Leghorn21 May 2018 #20
Don Jr. is still talking trash on twitter. OliverQ May 2018 #21
Add to that Cohen, Manafort and all other criminals quartz007 May 2018 #26
K&R... spanone May 2018 #24
When can we break out the beer and popcorn? burrowowl May 2018 #25
October surprise would be the right time? quartz007 May 2018 #28
This story is being ignored by the press orangecrush May 2018 #27
Press is busy with North Korea at the moment? quartz007 May 2018 #29
When did this news break? Today? Over the next week, read the insides of a couple of major papers Hekate May 2018 #31
Same here! orangecrush May 2018 #38
Nice to know we still have some friends in this world. Muchas Gracias, Guardia Civil of Spain. Hekate May 2018 #30
who would have known that the Spanish police are also part of the "deep state"? mnmoderatedem May 2018 #34
Didn't Spain also grab one of the DNC hackers? Ligyron May 2018 #35
So Trump Jr. was using a Russian mobster and the NRA to help Daddy's campaign? Botany May 2018 #36
Lordy there are tapes! DesertRat May 2018 #39
"Grinda said that the FBI, IN ITS REQUEST for the evidence..." Grins May 2018 #40

Dawson Leery

(19,348 posts)
1. This is why Conman has been on Twitter all week.
Fri May 25, 2018, 08:12 PM
May 2018

Mueller has gotten to his shitbag son.

Distract! Distract! Distract!

Response to Dawson Leery (Reply #1)

 

Kirk Lover

(3,608 posts)
2. I had to run to yahoo to check and THERE IT IS in all it's glory. I'm about to go out....but
Fri May 25, 2018, 08:18 PM
May 2018

WHOA....WTF...This is big...and this is BAD.

sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
3. Thieving Trump Crime Family
Fri May 25, 2018, 08:21 PM
May 2018

All they care about is themselves.
Like the rest of the American oligarchs: Murdoch, Koch, Koch, Adelson, Mercer, Uiline, Pope. All Republican oligarchs who want to destroy government to cut taxes on themselves.

The country needs more civics classes and more committment to American values: honesty, caring about others, respect for differences, welcoming immigrants and diversity.

The GOP and the Thieving Trump Crime Family step on those American values at any opportunity they get to accumulate more money.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,563 posts)
12. I cancelled a credit card issued by MBNA.
Fri May 25, 2018, 09:34 PM
May 2018

When the rep asked me why, and I told her, I was asked if I would wait and speak to her supervisor. I said I would.

The supervisor asked why, and i told her the same thing I told the first woman. "I won't do business with a company that has a JVA with Richard Mellon Scaife." You'd think I'd told her that it was because she had 3 heads or something. Completely incredulous.

"You asked, I answered, I think we're done. Thank you and goodbye."

YessirAtsaFact

(2,064 posts)
9. I love it! I thought Mueller would get help from friendly intelligence services
Fri May 25, 2018, 09:03 PM
May 2018

I think the scope of Mueller's finds are going to be so outrageous, they will even penetrate the RW echo chamber.

You have to wonder how many other European police and intelligence agencies have surveillance/wiretap information regarding OrangeTurd/Russia.

Or you can just say that the Witch Hunt is international.

azureblue

(2,146 posts)
42. and this raises another problem for Don
Sat May 26, 2018, 07:52 PM
May 2018

he can fire Mueller, if he dares. But he cannot stop other countries from investigating Russian meddling, which would also expose more of Don's dealings with Putin.

triron

(22,003 posts)
10. But CNN is talking about the N Korean summit.
Fri May 25, 2018, 09:10 PM
May 2018

Trump threw them a shiny object (CNN reminds me of a kitten).

quickesst

(6,280 posts)
33. I would have thought by now...
Sat May 26, 2018, 03:02 AM
May 2018

.... That someone would have mentioned that it's all Rachel, Joy, Chris, and Lawrence talked about tonight.😸

BobTheSubgenius

(11,563 posts)
13. This is the clearest, most decidedly salient and important development in a while.
Fri May 25, 2018, 09:35 PM
May 2018

I am pleased as punch to read it!

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,491 posts)
16. Will Trump try to strong-arm Spain?
Fri May 25, 2018, 10:06 PM
May 2018

Quote: "if Mueller or any other U.S. prosecutor seeks to use the material as part of a court case, they would have to make a second, more formal request to do so to the Spanish government."

I sense some phone calls being made as we speak........

Leghorn21

(13,524 posts)
20. I just this morning saw this gentleman's name for the first time in a tweet about how he's cracking
Fri May 25, 2018, 10:24 PM
May 2018

down on mobsters in Spain (before this story broke) and I thought, halay-luu-ya!!

——————-—-—-A GRATEFUL NATION THANKS YOU, JOSÉ GRINDA———————





RESPECT

 

OliverQ

(3,363 posts)
21. Don Jr. is still talking trash on twitter.
Fri May 25, 2018, 10:42 PM
May 2018

My guess is he's not too worried, because he knows he's getting a pardon if any indictments come out over this.

 

quartz007

(1,216 posts)
26. Add to that Cohen, Manafort and all other criminals
Fri May 25, 2018, 11:05 PM
May 2018

So long as their Godfather sits on the White House throne, they are not worried either. Presidential pardon power is widely abused.

Hekate

(90,690 posts)
31. When did this news break? Today? Over the next week, read the insides of a couple of major papers
Sat May 26, 2018, 12:49 AM
May 2018

Not the front pages, the insides. Dollars to holes in donuts, you'll find it. I am old enough to remember Watergate before it was on the front pages.

Hekate

(90,690 posts)
30. Nice to know we still have some friends in this world. Muchas Gracias, Guardia Civil of Spain.
Sat May 26, 2018, 12:39 AM
May 2018

May Junior have the cold sweats night and day.

Botany

(70,506 posts)
36. So Trump Jr. was using a Russian mobster and the NRA to help Daddy's campaign?
Sat May 26, 2018, 08:58 AM
May 2018

But the big question is, what about Hillary's emails?

Grins

(7,217 posts)
40. "Grinda said that the FBI, IN ITS REQUEST for the evidence..."
Sat May 26, 2018, 01:07 PM
May 2018

"Grinda said that the FBI, in its request for the evidence..."

So it was not offered to the FBI. Someone in the FBI knew this tap existed and asked for it? Who and what else do they have?

Drip...drip...drip....

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