What if Romney is replaced at the convention?

[apples and oranges]

With the story about Willard's taxes heating up in the media, I'm excited yet a little worried now about a brokered convention. People HATE Romney. With the exception of Mormons, most repugs will need nose plugs to pull the lever for him. What if they replace him with a more likable candidate, like Mitch Daniels, or a crazy person, like Bachmann or Paul?

[Kurovski]

1. Sarah must be half out of her mind.

With glee, I mean to say.

[pinboy3niner]

5. ...with delusion

[Kurovski]

14. Lord Thunderlap, I presume.

Good morrow, sir.

[pinboy3niner]

18. Good morrow, Kurovski

Great to see you back! Hope you've been well.

[Kurovski]

21. How many times must I tell you...

Hope is irrational.

[pinboy3niner]

26. It may be...

...but I give you Don Quixote...

ALDONZA: Why do you do these things?

DON QUIXOTE
What things?

ALDONZA
These ridiculous... the things you do!

DON QUIXOTE
I hope to add some measure of grace to the world.

ALDONZA
The world's a dung heap and we are maggots that crawl on it!

DON QUIXOTE
My Lady knows better in her heart.

ALDONZA
What's in my heart will get me halfway to hell.
And you, Señor Don Quixote-you're going to take
such a beating!

DON QUIXOTE
Whether I win or lose does not matter.

ALDONZA
What does?

DON QUIXOTE
Only that I follow the quest.

ALDONZA
(spits)
That for your Quest!
(turns, marches away; stops, turns bock
and asks, awkwardly)
What does that mean... quest?

DON QUIXOTE
It is the mission of each true knight...
His duty... nay, his privilege!
To dream the impossible dream,
To fight the unbeatable foe,
To bear with unbearable sorrow
To run where the brave dare not go;
To right the unrightable wrong.

To love, pure and chaste, from afar,
To try, when your arms are too weary,
To reach the unreachable star!

This is my Quest to follow that star,
No matter how hopeless, no matter how far,
To fight for the right
Without question or pause,
To be willing to march into hell
For a heavenly cause!

And I know, if I'll only be true
To this glorious Quest,
That my heart will lie peaceful and calm
When I'm laid to my rest.

And the world will be better for this,
That one man, scorned and covered with scars,
Still strove, with his last ounce of courage,
To reach the unreachable stars!


--From 'Man of La Mancha'

[Kurovski]

28. Flirt.

[pinboy3niner]

31. Speaking of delusions...

[Kurovski]

36. Don't start.

[pinboy3niner]

38. Ours is an unrequited love

Mostly based on bad puns, so what the hell did we expect?

[pinboy3niner]

41. On second thought...

Some of the puns were good.

[Kurovski]

43. I think it best to discuss all this AFTER the children are asleep.

[pinboy3niner]

47. THESE brats? Sleep? Bwahahahahahahaha!

[Kurovski]

48. That's it, I'm calling mother.

She can stop by with a fifth. That oughta' hold the little bastards.

[pinboy3niner]

49. Now you're talkin'! :) nt

[Scootaloo]

46. Here, let's give that some audio

That song makes me tear up every... damn... time.

[pinboy3niner]

50. Very nice

Thanks, Scootaloo!

[handmade34]

25. have it on good authority

that she is chilling these days... my daughter just called from Phoenix where she happened into a low budget nail shop and SP (along with her youngest daughter) was in having her nails painted red, white and blue maybe that is her way of celebrating

...other daughter who is TSA at Sky Harbor has had to check her ID through security recently... sounds like she is spending lots of time in AZ these days

[Kurovski]

29. I think the kid in AZ might go lefty-demy on 'em

That would be adorable!

[KamaAina]

67. Isn't that division by zero?

[Kurovski]

69. I'm not sure...

Considering the fact that she has a barrel of blind ambition in the place where humans have a head.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

2. With whom?

They don't exactly have a deep bench.

[awoke_in_2003]

3. It isn't deep...

but it sure is thick

[Kurovski]

16. And the audience is easy to please.

" Kenya, death panels, death tax, dangerous black homos!"

See, I just jumped ahead of Romney by five points.

[B Calm]

8. Ron Paul may have the delegates at the convention

to stir things up. Should be an interesting convention and will show the world how broken the republican party is!

[Warpy]

55. It doesn't matter. Their heavy hitters are dead or retired

and all they have left are lightweights, just the way Norquist likes 'em. However, if there is a real battle on the floor for this one, it's going to rip that party apart to the point it's going to be difficult for them to field a national candidate, at all.

The Reagan coalition of the religious crazies and the rich is showing especially deep cracks and has been for a long time since GOP presidents, SC justices and Congresses have done a great deal for the richest 1% but abortion is still legal.

The Nixon coalition of the rich and the bigots is still holding up because the guy in the White House isn't all white. However, if they fail to dig up a southerner in 2016, it too might fail.

[DrewFlorida]

4. I think there is a very good chance of a brokered convention!

I hope Harry Reid and anyone else who has real evidence regarding Romney's tax returns, is smart enough to hold onto it until after the republican national convention.

[apples and oranges]

10. Yes!

Maybe before the convention if his VP selection fires up his base too much. Otherwise, AFTER the convention!

[NYC_SKP]

6. Palin/Bachmann 2012

Go Crazy!

[Raster]

24. Be still my beating heart!

Please, OH PLEASE!

[HubertHeaver]

7. They will need to sacrifice a virgin.

Palin/Bachmann should be sufficiently virtuous to appease the Tea-Gods.

[Kurovski]

20. Oh, I like you.

You're good.

[HubertHeaver]

61. I like you too.

How's your running mate Wetzelbil?

[Kurovski]

70. Drunk, probably.

I haven't seen him in a while. I haven't been here or on the Facebook for weeks.

[chknltl]

56. Eric Cantor is a Virginian! Now we need to find an active volcano.

What? Where does it say that the Virginian has to be female?

[jmowreader]

9. If Romney is replaced at the convention Obama wins 46 states

Utah, Idaho, Wyoming and Alaska are out of reach for Obama, but think back to 1972--one of the things that put Nixon back in the White House, even though NO ONE liked Richard Nixon, was McGovern replacing Thomas Eagleton with Sargent Shriver as his VP pick.

I can only imagine the bedlam that would ensue if they replaced the guy at the top of the ticket.

[aquart]

52. If Romney is replaced you think the GOP will win Utah?

How very forgiving that would be.

[jmowreader]

58. The GOP could run a dead man and win Utah

Utah is one of those "very safe for the GOP" states--do they even bother to campaign there?

[pnwmom]

11. They don't have anyone who could instantly put together a strong organization

and beat Obama.

But I don't think it will happen anyway,

[MrSlayer]

12. Romney is the guy.

Unless something insane happens The Great Gaffesby will be the guy.

[coalition_unwilling]

15. LOL- "The Great Gaffesby" - What an insult to Jay Gatsby, though. Might

I proffer "The Great Gagsby"???

[aquart]

53. Jay Gatsby was a gangster.

[coalition_unwilling]

57. Been quite awhile since I last read it, but I do remember that Jay at least

was a self-made man. Unlike the Great Gagme.

[Volaris]

60. He was also the only character in the whole damn book (most of them 1%'s, BTW) who possessed so much

as a modicum of Human Compassion and "soul". That's what makes that character so interesting.

[Poll_Blind]

13. I think a lot of people here would dismiss the possiblity without a second thought, maybe out...

...of a sense of psychological self-preservation, heh heh. I don't think it's going to happen but he's such an incredibly weak candidate, but clearly also one who knows exactly how to suck up and who to suck up to.

So, as someone pointed out earlier, maybe Romney will simply be an incredibly inexperienced, unattractive candidate, who's put forward as kind of a thesis that even an absolute clam of a man can be elected president in a post-Citizens United America.

I mean, in a way, he's the perfect automaton for the job, really, if that's what the PTB in the GOP is shooting for!

PB

[moondust]

33. "even an absolute clam of a man can be elected president"

I used to think GWB was that awful candidate serving as their proof to the world that they had the power to elect a clam if they so desired. Citizens United has surely amplified their sense of superiority.

[flamingdem]

17. I have the answer!

He's simply NEVER going to show his tax returns, so let's enjoy this because it's his undoing, but the fat lady hasn't sung yet.

[Jack Rabbit]

19. No one else is going to be as prepared to run against Obama as is Mitt the Twit

The GOP goes down either way.

Bwa ha. Bwa ha. BWAHAHAHAHA!!

[Kurovski]

27. And this is why we have this operation..." Jim Crow for the New American Century."

They will try ever-so-hard to win.

[NYC Liberal]

22. Never going to happen. To do so would be an unmitigated disaster for the GOP.

Okay, not that I'd mind that. But they will never do it.

[Kurovski]

34. Remember now, a lotta folks like Goin' rogue, you betcha!

The tea party gets all tingly and patriotical at the thought.

Mitt should convert to Baptist. That might save his ass.

[backscatter712]

23. If Rmoney's replaced at the convention, the entire GOP's going down in flames in November.

This would be an epic disaster for them. The replacement candidate won't have the money, the ground-game or networks to be able to put together a viable campaign, and Obama will eat them for breakfast.

[Arctic Dave]

30. RON PAUL!! RON PAUL!! RON PAUL!!

Yes, I am advocating a third party candidate.

Suck it DU rules.

[Poll_Blind]

39. LOL! I have to admit, a "Thunderdome"-style convention showdown between Paul and Romney, where....

...Paul is dressed as Humungous from the The Road Warrior and Romney is geared up like Dynamo from The Running Man, and they all have a sort of battle royale through the stage, convention floor and mezzanine sounds entertaining!

PB

[patrice]

32. If they did that it'd be the same as ADMITTING everything WE ARE saying about tax breaks is RIGHT.

I can't picture them doing that.

Even if they did replace him, it would cost them more in every way than it would get for them.

[JaneyVee]

35. They would lose every single Independent voter.

[complain jane]

37. with the dressing horse?

I'm obsessed with using the term 'dressing horse' in conversation.

[longship]

40. Not going to happen

Other than the fact that there is no procedure for replacing Mitt -- he has the delegates and nobody else has enough, not even Paul -- Republicans are never going to admit they were wrong. Plus, they've invested a huge amount of political capital in anointing Mittster. They know what happens if Mitt isn't the nominee. They aren't that stupid.

[emilyg]

45. ....

yep

[CabCurious]

68. Definitely not going to happen nt

[procon]

42. The teabaggers have a lot of power

and they loath Romney. The establishment Republicans can't control them, and they are too scared of losing their own seats to rein them in. If the crazies band together to force a brokered convention, they can bring down Romney and they won't care if they take the whole GOP down with him in the name of ideological "purity". Then they can pick the one person they truely adore... Sarah Palin.

[valerief]

44. They'll serve up Paul Ryan. Blech, blech, blech, blecccccch! nt

[krawhitham]

51. New candidate will not have time to get on many state ballots

The convention is only 63 days before the election and a lot of states require you apply more that 63 days out, and that is not even counting the time it would take to get the signatures needed.


Plus the new candidate will have no money and rMoney can not just transfer his money to a new person, he has to offer the many back

[Horse with no Name]

65. republican governors have dismantled STATES

in less time.

I am not discounting anything.

[Betty Jo]

54. CAN YOU RUN FOR THE PREZSHIP IF YOU"RE IN PRISON?

I think Mitty will be wearing stripes pretty soon,if we all google hard! I'm begging everyone to search "HERCULES II LLC" "HCA" " Bain" "Medicare Medicaid Fraud " If Mitty isn't in leg irons by the convention may I suggest that ex Senator Frist be the Veep? He and Romney are partners in HCA,and those hospitals have been found guilty of Medicare Fraud.HCA and Bain's other hospitals have killed people in them,so the Prez and his veep can be "co-offers ". Look up "Frist the Cat Killer" and Romney's "French Fatal Car Accident " Google till you drop!

[Angleae]

59. It's been done before

Lyndon LaRouche comes to mind

[Horse with no Name]

62. I have actually thought all along

that this would happen. Mittwit isn't electable.

No doubt they have an odious candidate suitable to stimulate the hatred of the wingnuts.

[Motown_Johnny]

63. So unlikely as to not be worth considering. Also anyone else would be

seen as illegitimate and pretty easily defeated.

It is Rmoney's turn. He was next in line and everyone paying attention figured he would be the nominee this time around. That is just how they roll over there.

[randome]

64. I still think it's possible that Romney will drop out and Obama will run unopposed.

There is no time for the GOP to field a new candidate. And they are loathe to throw away money.

[backscatter712]

66. I'd only give it a 10% chance...

But if it did happen, my guess is Santorum would replace him. He's crazy enough to keep the wingnuts happy, he got second place in the primaries, and he's stupid enough to be easily manipulated by the neo-cons and Koch-heads.

[johnlucas]

71. I have been believing they would do this since before the start of the year

I took one look at the candidates the Republicans had running & I said "You can't be serious".

Herman Cain had no chance because it would force the choice between a Black man & a Black man. Just that simple.
Plus his Pokémon/Sim City economic plans made him even more of a joke (will his advisers be Pikachu & Dr. Wright?).

Michele Bachmann had no chance because she's a woman. In my hearts of hearts I don't think the 'Conservative' party would truly feel comfortable with a woman in the President position. Remember they're supposed to be the party of traditionalists.
Plus she's crazy as hell so that helped. Also her husband is probably gay (traditionalists have a problem with that I have heard).

Rick Perry looked dumb as hell & proved it at the debates when he couldn't even name the department he would cut.
This is the guy who took George W. Bush's spot as governor when Bush became President.
An abomination taking the place of an abomination. Next!

Jon Huntsman looked to be the most reasonable of the candidates but he was practically invisible.
The dude couldn't get arrested!
Plus he's Mitt Romney's cousin & served under President Obama himself as ambassador. Hard to run against a guy you used to work for.

Ron Paul is plain OLD. Too doggone OLD. Besides he's not REALLY a Republican anyway. He's a Libertarian running under a Republican banner. The GOP establishment won't back him because of that. And his racist newsletters would sink him if he ever made it to the nominee stage. He would probably wreck things even worse than the Republicans trying to reverse the world to 1800s (can't kill fiat currency when your whole modern society was built off of it). Outside of his cult he has no legs.

Newt Gingrich is the encyclopedia definition of Corrupt. His personal crap would overshadow everything he did. He was also sloppy running his own campaign (how do you not get yourself on the Virginia ballot really? Going on a cruise when you should be campaigning?). His own party turned on him back in the 1990s when he was Speaker of the House. Plus he looked like the old guard of the Republican Party & I think that would work against him in the midst of 'Tea Party' madness.

Rick Santorum looked like a jabroni & showed himself to be a jabroni throughout the campaign. 'Blah people'? 'Blah people', Rick? Really? The cat was a pure roody poo & only got as far as he did because nearly everybody else dropped out. He became the anti-Romney choice. A weak one too who dropped out of the race because his daughter got sick. You can do both/and, Rick, not either/or. You're gonna resign from the Presidency when your daughter gets sick, Rick? ROODY POO!

Mitt Romney was Richie Rich in the flesh. With a Reagan haircut & robotic demeanor. The Tea Party hated him because he was the Governor of Massachusetts AKA Kennedy Land. He couldn't go too hard against Obama on Obamacare because it is REALLY Romneycare—to the disappointment of many of us here (single payer where are you?). His background as Massachusetts Governor & Richie Rich Bain Capitalist would cause him to contradict himself twice & thrice with the same sentence.

And he was the best one they got.

Sarah Palin for all her yakking was too scared to run (it would interfere with her money circuit of speaking tours/book deals/Fox News cameos).
Chris Christie was scared.
Tim Pawlenty didn't have enough (the opposite of plenty).
Donald Trump only talked about a campaign to boost the ratings of The Apprentice before the season finale.

They were stuck with Mitt Romney & the Republican primaries proved it.
He's the John Kerry of 2012. Anybody But Obama!
But you don't win elections voting AGAINST the other guy.

I know Obama's got a team & he's gonna be MURDER to deal with this time around.
This team which kept Hillary Clinton from the Presidency is even MORE experienced this time.
The Republicans know this too & I don't think the rank-and-file OR the establishment really believes in Mitt Romney.

I said way back in 2011 before anybody ran to people around me that they would put up Jeb Bush despite all the liabilities that go with the Bush name.
I STILL feel like that's what they're gonna do at the convention. Because Romney's only the PRESUMPTIVE Nominee.
But just like when you ASSUME be careful when you PRESUME. Romney ain't THE NOMINEE™ yet.
That's what the whole Republican National Convention is all about. Establishing who will be exactly that.

I think they will do a switchout at the last minute because Romney ain't gonna get the job done.
It usually is a foregone conclusion that the one who wins the primaries get to be the candidate but I think things will be different this time around.

And if they don't switchout, just fine by me. He'll get stomped in November right on schedule.
Switchout & potentially wreck the party. Keep him & weaken the party. Same basic outcome either way.

I'm more concerned about Obama & the Democratic Party moving in a Strong Progressive position than I am about the Republican Party's nonsense.
Obama's gonna win but what does that mean if he & the rest of the Democrats keep coming out half-hearted?
John Lucas