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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,050 posts)
Mon May 21, 2018, 12:38 PM May 2018

Pompeo threatens US will 'crush' Iran through sanctions and pressure campaign

Washington (CNN)The US will aim to "crush" Iran with economic and military pressure unless it changes its behavior in the Middle East, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said Monday.

Pompeo, unveiling the Trump administration's new policy on Iran just weeks after President Donald Trump pulled out of the Iran nuclear deal, said the US will work to counter Tehran's activities and curb its influence in the Middle East and make sure that it never gains a nuclear weapon.

"Sanctions are going back in full effect, and new ones are coming," Pompeo said, speaking at the Heritage Foundation, a conservative think tank.

Pompeo said he will also be working with the Defense Department and allies to push back on Iran.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/21/politics/pompeo-iran-speech/index.html

Chickenhawks hoping to get their war on.

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Pompeo threatens US will 'crush' Iran through sanctions and pressure campaign (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 2018 OP
The chickenhawks are messing now with countries who actually HAVE armies and arms. shraby May 2018 #1
Don't think our allies are interested. They OldHippieChick May 2018 #2
Sad roscoeroscoe May 2018 #3
I hope the neocons will not prevail... quartz007 May 2018 #4
The US and Israel TimeSnowDemos May 2018 #5
Europe needs Iran's oil, we don't quartz007 May 2018 #9
Iran is not the biggest sponsor of terror TimeSnowDemos May 2018 #12
Not correct about Iran oil--Europe quartz007 May 2018 #16
Lol TimeSnowDemos May 2018 #17
My personal opinion does not matter! quartz007 May 2018 #18
Those aren't facts TimeSnowDemos May 2018 #19
History is irrelevant! quartz007 May 2018 #20
Ira relatove TimeSnowDemos May 2018 #21
That's not diplomatic . . . . no_hypocrisy May 2018 #6
GOP party line: Diplomacy is for sissies ProudLib72 May 2018 #15
Ho hum. . . matt819 May 2018 #7
Why? Just to see how big of dick he can be? sinkingfeeling May 2018 #8
This time around NewJeffCT May 2018 #10
Is it just me rsdsharp May 2018 #11
Do they wish to install the Shah again. safeinOhio May 2018 #13
Unless, that is, the companies doing business with Iran are Chinese muriel_volestrangler May 2018 #14

shraby

(21,946 posts)
1. The chickenhawks are messing now with countries who actually HAVE armies and arms.
Mon May 21, 2018, 12:46 PM
May 2018

They may face a war upfront and personal to them for once.

Those countries can and probably will bring the war to our shores. It's a different world than WWII when there were no arms like there are today.

OldHippieChick

(2,434 posts)
2. Don't think our allies are interested. They
Mon May 21, 2018, 12:52 PM
May 2018

are working hard to negate the effects of our betrayal/withdrawal. Obviously, the US cannot be trusted and no one is going to align w/ us until we stand behind our treaties. The American Indian could have warned them.

roscoeroscoe

(1,370 posts)
3. Sad
Mon May 21, 2018, 12:56 PM
May 2018

The Secretary of State's goal, representing the United States of America, should not be to 'crush' another country.

Unless we're at war.

 

quartz007

(1,216 posts)
4. I hope the neocons will not prevail...
Mon May 21, 2018, 01:02 PM
May 2018

Last thing we need is a shooting war with anyone. Reason Germany is best economy in Europe is Germany spends far less on military than we do. That is the reason Germany has less national debt/per person than we do.

 

TimeSnowDemos

(476 posts)
5. The US and Israel
Mon May 21, 2018, 01:07 PM
May 2018

Are on their own.

Europe is not pro-war with Iran, and neither are Europeans.

In fact Europe is standing up to the US and won't be backing down any time soon.

I wonder what would happen if Americans had any idea that America is literally the 'bad guy' re Iran.

Probably nothing

 

quartz007

(1,216 posts)
9. Europe needs Iran's oil, we don't
Mon May 21, 2018, 01:28 PM
May 2018

and Big corporations in EU make big profits from business with Iran. They do not want to give up those profits, even if Iran is the biggest sponsor of terrorism according to our State Dept.

 

TimeSnowDemos

(476 posts)
12. Iran is not the biggest sponsor of terror
Mon May 21, 2018, 01:55 PM
May 2018

Our ALLY Saudi Arabia is.

And of course the US is in no position to judge anyone for their sponsorship of terror, as we are one of the major backers of terror regimes and dictators globally. And have killed MILLIONS of civilians globally since the 1950s.

And no, Europe doesn't need Iran's oil. Iran couldn't sell it to Europe until recently and yet Europe managed somehow to get by.

 

quartz007

(1,216 posts)
16. Not correct about Iran oil--Europe
Mon May 21, 2018, 09:08 PM
May 2018

In reality, it matters little where the oil comes from. Oil market prices are determined by supply and demand. By Iran dumping its oil into the market keeps the prices in check. Gasoline is already sky high in Europe. Without Iran oil it will be even higher. So, indirectly Iran oil supply is critical to Europe.

India (huge demand with 1.3 Billion people) can buy oil from Iran and Europe can buy oil from Saudi or Russia. Our own oil is sold to Asian countries for economy of transportation and we buy from Mexico and others close by. Oil markets are very fluid.

As for who is the biggest sponsor of terrorism is irrelevant. What we know for sure is Iran is in Syria, Iraq & Yemen wars fighting our military.. And Iran supports Hezbollah & Hamas. Saudi Arabia rulers do not support military operations which fight our military. Their problem is religious zealotry by the way of funding lots of Sunni zealots everywhere via private donations.

 

TimeSnowDemos

(476 posts)
17. Lol
Mon May 21, 2018, 09:42 PM
May 2018

Our military is helping dictators murder women and children, bomb refugee camps, and stave millions of civilians in Yemen. If that's who you side with, I'm not on your side. There's no version of this conversation where I don't think your siding with the worst of humanity. So let's drop it.

 

quartz007

(1,216 posts)
18. My personal opinion does not matter!
Mon May 21, 2018, 10:03 PM
May 2018

Actually I am a pacifist, having grown up in the same province as Mahatma Gandhi. Here, I merely state facts as our government sees them.

 

TimeSnowDemos

(476 posts)
19. Those aren't facts
Mon May 21, 2018, 10:28 PM
May 2018

To be clear.

You're conflating a lot of misinformation and half-truths.

The US was in Yemen for years before Iran was. The US used the demonstrably false premise of Iranian involvement to justify war crimes in Yemen. That was even said by Dems in the US Congress. Or at least the spectre was raised.

On top of that, Saudi Arabia, according to Trump, and the Obama administration, and the EU, is the largest state sponsor of terror. Trump changed his tune only after it suited his political and financial agenda.

The US, BTW., has helped the Saudis bomb two pedeatric hospitals in Yemen. Two. One was then bombed a second time when rescue workers showed up.

Iran hasn't started a war in living memory either. And the US (and Israel) both sponsor terror groups when it suits them and have for multiple generations. Iran on the other hand has had 100s of thousands of its civilians killed in a war with the US via Iraq, wherein the US helped Saddam target and deliver WMDs against civilians. The US also shot an airliner full of Iranian women and children out of the air. And of course the US created the Iranian secret police, and ran it while it engaged in its most egregious, murderous and torturous, behavior.

Saudi Arabia is obviously a dictatorshio that murders its own people by the dozens, and has some of the worst human rights violations on the planet...

So. If you're gonna talk about this stuff, learn about it. Don't parrot random garbage the US government is putting out in 2018 without at least a quick Google to see if youre being part of the problem

 

quartz007

(1,216 posts)
20. History is irrelevant!
Mon May 21, 2018, 11:40 PM
May 2018

Fact is Iran IS fighting US military in countries I mentioned.

LMAAAO...Saudi murders own people? And Iran doesn't?
What do you call this?

https://www.cnn.com/2017/12/30/middleeast/iran-protests-intl/index.html

 

TimeSnowDemos

(476 posts)
21. Ira relatove
Tue May 22, 2018, 03:37 AM
May 2018

The US murders its own people as well.

And by calling history irrelevant is a wildly offensive cop out. And not even vaguely true. It's also what Trump believes.

matt819

(10,749 posts)
7. Ho hum. . .
Mon May 21, 2018, 01:15 PM
May 2018

No. They won't crush Iran.

They will, however, ensure that Iranians continue to hate The Great Satan. There might have been a chance that anti-Americanism could ease in the coming years as a result of the Iran agreement. Close the nuclear program (yeah, yeah, I know, that probably wouldn't happen, but we would all have the fig leaf and there would still be inspections and maybe even be successful) and ease sanctions. A rational program over time. Not now. Back to 1978 levels of hatred.

And you know what? Iran will survive. Iraq will survive. Syria, even, will survive. They may change. Hell, they may not be recognizable. But the Iranian, Iraqis, and Syrians will still be with us. They will not be crushed. The Afghans, after centuries of war and foreign invasions, is still there.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,322 posts)
14. Unless, that is, the companies doing business with Iran are Chinese
Mon May 21, 2018, 07:02 PM
May 2018

in which case Trump will personally intervene to make sure there are no bad consequences for them.

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