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applegrove

(118,767 posts)
Fri May 18, 2018, 06:36 PM May 2018

Who is the freeloader: the working poor on food stamps -- or corporations that don't pay them enough?

By Dylan Scott at Vox

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/5/18/17368330/food-stamps-work-requirements-farm-bill-sherrod-brown

"SNIP........


Republicans in Congress just failed to pass a bill that would impose harsher work requirements for federal food stamps as part of the so-called farm bill, but there’s no sign they’re giving up on the idea anytime soon. Their argument is that, particularly with the Great Recession behind us, poorer Americans could and should be doing more to get into the workforce and off federal assistance.

The GOP’s plan raises all sorts of bigger questions, but an alternative plan by Sen. Sherrod Brown (D-OH) asks a pretty straightforward one: Is the problem that people aren’t working enough? Or is it that they don’t receive a high enough wage or generous enough benefits from their employer?

Brown thinks the latter is the real problem, and wants to charge corporations a “freeloader” fee if their employees depend on government aid like food stamps.

His proposal implies that a big overarching problem in America isn’t that poor people aren’t working hard enough; it’s that their wages aren’t high enough, their jobs and hours can be unpredictable, and their employers don’t provide robust enough benefits for them to live without support.

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Who is the freeloader: the working poor on food stamps -- or corporations that don't pay them enough? (Original Post) applegrove May 2018 OP
We definitely know the answer to that one.. whathehell May 2018 #1
"Who is the freeloader" mitch96 May 2018 #2
The rich Matthew28 May 2018 #3
Thanks for the word leanforward May 2018 #4
I love Sherrod Brown. Ohiogal May 2018 #5
Me too..Like E. Warren, he's a Progressive, New Deal Dem whathehell May 2018 #10
And Crutchez_CuiBono May 2018 #6
Sometimes I think America would benefit Codeine May 2018 #7
Hell, they'd benefit from simply learning American Labor History. whathehell May 2018 #11
When I joined the workforce, Cracklin Charlie May 2018 #8
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe May 2018 #9

whathehell

(29,090 posts)
1. We definitely know the answer to that one..
Fri May 18, 2018, 06:41 PM
May 2018

The corporations -- The word needs to be spread far and wide..

mitch96

(13,924 posts)
2. "Who is the freeloader"
Fri May 18, 2018, 06:52 PM
May 2018

I think it's who is doing the defining... A Rich person would call a poor person getting assistance a freeloader.. And what He/She defines by not pay a living wage and no taxes as lowering expenses. Thus maximize profits and a good business model... uggh
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Matthew28

(1,798 posts)
3. The rich
Fri May 18, 2018, 06:56 PM
May 2018

They take 90% of all the profit and force people to need food stamps just to eat after working 40 hours per weeks making more money for the goddamn rich.

The Corporations and the rich are free loaders and thief's!

leanforward

(1,077 posts)
4. Thanks for the word
Fri May 18, 2018, 07:07 PM
May 2018

A word I picked up some years ago was "social cost". To cut to the chase, corporations and high earners (for what ever reason(s)) should pay a higher rate or in the books at grad school a social cost. Those that try to wiggle out of that cost, I would call them freeloaders.

Currently, it seems that a lot of people in these United States are living in a version of the company store.

And our government has to pick up the cost. Then some fuss about the cost of government. Yes, the cost of government is expensive, but a lot cheaper than the privatization cost addon of 20 percent for profit/dividends. In the current market, profit/dividends are exported out of the area for negative local impact.

whathehell

(29,090 posts)
10. Me too..Like E. Warren, he's a Progressive, New Deal Dem
Sat May 19, 2018, 06:23 AM
May 2018

I wish he'd run for prez, but I'm not sure he wants it..He's said his wife doesn't want him to run

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
7. Sometimes I think America would benefit
Fri May 18, 2018, 07:19 PM
May 2018

from requiring high school kids to actually read a little Marx. Throw in some Adam Smith too, to be fair, but definitely some Marx.

Cracklin Charlie

(12,904 posts)
8. When I joined the workforce,
Fri May 18, 2018, 07:45 PM
May 2018

In my first real job in 1984, I made a good wage.

A good starting hourly wage today is almost exactly what it was then.

So, expenses up for everything, wages are the same. Doesn’t take advanced level math skills to figure that one out.

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