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Jared Lied, Bigly.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/infuriated-jared-kushner-lost-his-cool-when-russians-didnt-deliver-hillary-dirt?source=twitter&via=desktop
Kushner claimed he had no idea why he was in that notorious Trump Tower meeting. Newly-released testimony indicates otherwise.
Goldstones testimony stands in contrast to what Kushner said in public about the meeting. In a July 2017 statement, Kushner paints himself as bored and confused by Veselnitskayas presentation.
"I had no idea why that topic was being raised and quickly determined that my time was not well-spent at this meeting, he told the House Intelligence Committees Russia inquiry, adding that he texted an assistant and asked for a call on his cell phone to excuse himself from the meeting.
But Republicans on the House Intelligence Committee concluded in their final report on Russian interference in the 2016 election that Kushner, along with Trump Jr. and Paul Manafort "had expected to receivebut did not ultimately obtainderogatory information on candidate Clinton" during the meeting.
Goldstone, for his part, testified that Kushner became visibly angry when Veselnitskaya delivered a lengthy diatribe about U.S. sanctions on Russia and their impact on adoptionsinstead of handing over dirt on Clinton.
Hook, line, and sinker.
Girard442
(6,086 posts)calimary
(81,527 posts)Sounds like he also has more legal troubles facing him.
Nitram
(22,913 posts)Rhiannon12866
(206,292 posts)FSogol
(45,555 posts)hatrack
(59,594 posts)smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)lame54
(35,331 posts)Dana Carvey on SNL playing Ross Perot
haele
(12,684 posts)Who could have thought that someone who has been scrutinized with an aggressively hostile microscope for every one of the thirty year of her national political life would still have any "dirt" that couldn't easily be ignored as negligible or explained away as not being from any of her actions or decisions?
Why, maybe a Mafioso type criminal who only does business with other like minded criminals?
Someone who is so out of touch with the idea of ethics, laws, or morals that it's inconceivable to him (or her) that other people might operate their business within the law and may actually be acting under a desire to improve the greater good for the country, as well as their own benefit?
Haele
LisaM
(27,843 posts)that they probably feel everyone is that way. (Not to mention that they're pretty corrupt themselves). They see the world in a whole different way.
calimary
(81,527 posts)maxsolomon
(33,432 posts)The "Dirt" was illegally obtained through foreign espionage and acceptance/use of it constitutes Conspiracy.
He's fucking lucky they just "droned on" about the Magnitsky Act sanctions.
And they DID deliver later.
LOCK HIM UP.
czarjak
(11,301 posts)Again.
Lonestarblue
(10,106 posts)Not only were they stupid to think that none of this would ever see the light of day, but they were stupid to think that the Russians had serious dirt on Hillary Clinton. Her every action has been investigated since Bill Clintons entry into politics. Dozens of investigations over the decades brought no wrongdoing to lightnada. Did the Trumps truly think that there was any part of her life that had not been examined in public?
Sam McGee
(347 posts)I'd like to see Jared become infuriated.
What do you bet it looks something like this:
ollie10
(2,091 posts)not fooled
(5,803 posts)he has emotions?
luc mont
(70 posts).99center
(1,237 posts)Unbelievable that so many people are buying Trump & Russia's BS. "Music promoter"? Uh huh, and Natalia was just a lawyer...
Ligyron
(7,639 posts)How do we actually know the Russians didn't supply some kind of dirt on Hills which was eagerly lapped up by the criminals in the room. Because they all said so?
We're taking the word of known, proven liars for some reason?
Does anyone have a tape of this exchange?
hmmmm....
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)As to simply hand over 'documents' in a scenario like that.
No, what they DID, was tell them all they 'HAD' documents, and that if these Drumpf reps would agree to handle the sanctions problems (if they won, which they probably would, cause the documents), then they would see to it that documents would soon see the light of day via public release on various websites like Wikileaks.
I think Jared & DJTJr likely went in thinking they'd be physically 'handed shit', but the Russians were like "Uh ... how dumb are you?We're not going to DIRECTLY HAND YOU DOCUMENTS IN TRUMP TOWER YOU STUPID F**KS you have any idea how illegal that would be? No, this is what we're going to be doing ... it will be via anonymous releases, so nobody knows about this arrangement ... YOU GET IT NOW? So ... IF you will agree to fix the 'adoption issue', we will 'provide the dirt' we've promised'. Now ... do we have a deal?"
And Manafort, the one US person there totally accustomed to EXACTLY this 'manner of operation' ... said to DJTJr and Jared ... 'take the deal' ... and they probably did.
And within weeks, Guccifer 2.0 (Known Russian Intel Agent) was releasing hacked docs from the DNC. Which DNC records show ... they ALREADY HAD at the date of the Tower meeting.
Does it make any sense now?
Cause that's how I make sense of the thing ...
Ligyron
(7,639 posts)The Russians, unlike the dumb-ass Trump crew, knew better than to give it directly to those morons. Russians are so much more experienced at this type of thing than a bunch of NYC real estate grifters.
Because as it turned out, they did have dirt, and it did come out. In exchange for promises elicited also by other players on the Trump team like Manafort, Sessions, etc. Hence their Russian contacts which were so vehemently denied by everyone on the Trump campaign.
"What? Me talk to Russians? NEVER"!
RhodeIslandOne
(5,042 posts)JHB
(37,163 posts)...just for the "in the dictionary" picture of "ineffectual" (or mayby a SFW version of "impotent" .
JI7
(89,279 posts)starts around 4:40
onecent
(6,096 posts)SWBTATTReg
(22,176 posts)struggle4progress
(118,379 posts)I really thought we might just pay off a few porn stars and adopt their babies!"
dalton99a
(81,637 posts)Mc Mike
(9,115 posts)they're lying their freak heads off that there was no deal resulting from the meeting.
randr
(12,417 posts)There never was any "dirt" on Hillary