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triron

(22,020 posts)
Mon May 14, 2018, 01:53 PM May 2018

Ed Krassenstein on Avenatti's tweet yesterday regarding Dec 12 2016 Trump tower meeting


Ahmed Al-Rumaihi, who is in charge of a $100 billion division of Qatar Investment Authority, is a key figure here. Where things get interesting is in a a lawsuit filed by a friend of Steve Bannon’s, named Jeff Kwatinetz, against Ahmed Al-Rumaihi.
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Ed Krassenstein
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4h4 hours ago

Kwatinetz is the co-founder of a professional basketball league called Big 3, along with entertainer Ice Cube. Kwatinetz, in sworn testimony earlier this month, claims that Al-Rumaihi failed to deliver on a $20 million investment into their league.
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Ed Krassenstein
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4h4 hours ago

Kwatinetz claims that Al-Rumaihi, a little after his meeting with Trump at the White House, in which Trump suddenly flip-flopped his stance on a Qatar blockade, took him for a hike, and then tried to leverage his investment....
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Ed Krassenstein
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4h4 hours ago

in Kwatinetz’s basketball league into political influence with Steve Bannon. When Kwatinetz told Al-Rumaihi that Bannon would never take that deal, Al-Rumaihi laughed and said, “do you think Michael Flynn turned down our money?”, implying that Flynn had accepted a bribe....
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Ed Krassenstein
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4h4 hours ago

from Al-Rumaihi, for political influence. Al-Rumaihi apparently has been dealing with the Trump team since prior to Trump taking office. Why? What could they have possibly been discussing at Trump Tower on December 12 of 2016? Well, let’s take a look back at the Steele Dossier.
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Ed Krassenstein
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4h4 hours ago

The Steele Dossier claims that Trump aide Carter Page, on July 7 or 8 of 2016, had agreed to a deal on Trump’s behalf in which the brokerage of up to a 19% sale in Russian State oil giant Rosneft were to be given to Trump if Sanctions against the company were lifted.
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Ed Krassenstein
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4h4 hours ago

This means that Trump would be given a percentage (unknown number) of any sale in which 19% of the company would be sold. Considering that the market value of 19% of Rosneft today is approximately $13 billion, a commission on the sale could be between $300M-$1 Billion.
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Ed Krassenstein
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4h4 hours ago

Additionally Michael Cohen allegedly played a large role as well. (screenshot of Steel Dossier excerpt)
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Ed Krassenstein
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4h4 hours ago

What is very interesting, is that on December 7, 2016 (5 months after the Carter Page agreement) and just 5 days before Qatar Investment head, Al-Rumaihi was at Trump Tower with Michael Cohen and Michael Flynn, Russia announced the sale of a 19.5% stake in Rosneft to....
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Ed Krassenstein
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4h4 hours ago

Qatar Investment Authority and Glencore Plc. Glencore then sold their share to Qatar Investment Auth.

Then the day after Al Rumaihi visited Trump Tower (December 13, 2016) Jared Kushner met with the Chief Executive of Vnesheconombank, a Russian state-owned bank, Sergey Gorkov.
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Ed Krassenstein
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4h4 hours ago

To me, this puzzle is almost complete. Trump was going to fulfill his end of the bargain, by trying to remove crippling sanctions on Russia, which hurt Rosneft, and in return would receive a huge some of money...
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Ed Krassenstein
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4h4 hours ago

from the commission of the sale of the 19-19.5% stake in Russian state-run oil giant, Rosneft. The deal was agreed upon on July 7/8, 2016 (Carter Page)...
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Ed Krassenstein
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4h4 hours ago

reached on December 7th (Russia announced the sale), Al-Rumaihi (the buyer) met with Trump, Cohen and Flynn on December 12, and the seller (Russia) met with Jared Kushner on December 13.
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Ed Krassenstein
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4h4 hours ago

If you can’t see this conspiracy, you are blinded by your support of Trump. The Trump team actually may have been the middle-man for this $13 billion deal it appears. (END)
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Ed Krassenstein
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6m6 minutes ago

***Bonus*** Carter Page also went to Moscow on December 8th, 2016, the day after Qatar Investment & Glencore acquired 19.5% of Rosneft, and 4 days prior to the head of Qatar Investment being seen with Michael Flynn and Michael Cohen in Trump Towers.
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Ed Krassenstein on Avenatti's tweet yesterday regarding Dec 12 2016 Trump tower meeting (Original Post) triron May 2018 OP
I have to admit matt819 May 2018 #1
I have to admit that I can't either. panader0 May 2018 #4
I think that is Trump's MO NewJeffCT May 2018 #7
David Cay Johnston to the rescue not fooled May 2018 #11
Lock 'em up.... Sancho May 2018 #2
Was Trump going to use his windfall from Rosneft... Cracklin Charlie May 2018 #3
Criminals and traitors are quite busy, arent they. Rump is in a perfect position too. Eliot Rosewater May 2018 #5
Since the sanctions haven't been lifted, Trump found another way to raise Russian oil profits eleny May 2018 #6
insert Kwisatz Haderach pun here ProfessorPlum May 2018 #8
Maud'Dib oasis May 2018 #18
Mueller knows everything about this via Flynn's cooperation DeminPennswoods May 2018 #9
My blood is boiling red hot. This traitor must be put in prison Pepsidog May 2018 #10
Aren't you just so sick of all of this? leftyladyfrommo May 2018 #13
It's just incredible what's happening. Worse yet is the complexity of the crimes and Pepsidog May 2018 #15
The depth of the corruption is unbelievable. leftyladyfrommo May 2018 #17
It makes me crazy when people don't post links. eggplant May 2018 #12
Me too. Thanks. RandomAccess May 2018 #21
Meanwhile, Trump and Putin are working on a world war. C Moon May 2018 #14
And then, what convinced me as one who has lived in Europe for years, that Sophia4 May 2018 #16
Would you please post the link? RandomAccess May 2018 #19
See post 12 above. triron May 2018 #20

matt819

(10,749 posts)
1. I have to admit
Mon May 14, 2018, 01:58 PM
May 2018

I can't follow all of this.

But I'll bet that the walls in the Mueller investigation offices are home to the entire world supply of red thread showing every corrupt connection that is this regime.

NewJeffCT

(56,829 posts)
7. I think that is Trump's MO
Mon May 14, 2018, 02:25 PM
May 2018

or, at least the method his people use (accountants, lawyers, etc) - make Trump's businesses so complex and murky that it's hard to follow everything, especially for the lay person.

Just like if his tax returns ever came out - 95% of Americans wouldn't be able to understand them because of the complexity = you'd need a team of very experienced CPAs to be able to go through everything. if they were released, they'd just try to BS their way through all the revelations that would come out because it's so complex and confusing

Cracklin Charlie

(12,904 posts)
3. Was Trump going to use his windfall from Rosneft...
Mon May 14, 2018, 02:08 PM
May 2018

To repay money he owed Russia?

If sanctions not lifted, he still owes.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,121 posts)
5. Criminals and traitors are quite busy, arent they. Rump is in a perfect position too.
Mon May 14, 2018, 02:17 PM
May 2018

He knows nothing for real because he has the IQ of a child, but he simply orders those around him including now as prez to make any deal with anyone that profits him.

Does the deal kill innocent people? Doesnt care, AT ALL.

Does the deal destroy the environment? Give me a break, he isnt even sure what an "environment" is.

Does the deal harm American workers? Zip care, none, nada.

eleny

(46,166 posts)
6. Since the sanctions haven't been lifted, Trump found another way to raise Russian oil profits
Mon May 14, 2018, 02:20 PM
May 2018

He broke the Iranian peace deal.

Does this sound plausible? It just came to mind since the sanctions are still in place. The % of Rosneft was sold at a lower price than if the sanctions had been lifted. But Russia is still benefiting from higher oil prices because of America's pulling out of the Iranian deal.

One way or the other, Trump helps Russia.

And today, the discussions of Trump's helping to keep jobs in China comes to light. All because China's president calls him to remind him that China is backing Trump's deal in Indonesia for some sort of real estate development. So all of a sudden Trump thinks it's okay for the Chinese cell phone company that does business with Iran to continue doing so. Before the call from China that company would have gone out of business since we don't do business with companies who do business with Iran.
http://www.kcwy13.com/content/news/China-sends-trade-envoy-to-US-welcomes-Trump-ZTE-comments-482533901.html

Trump keeps needing a longer rake to pull in the dough.

DeminPennswoods

(15,290 posts)
9. Mueller knows everything about this via Flynn's cooperation
Mon May 14, 2018, 03:50 PM
May 2018

Don't forget Flynn's sentencing was just pushed back another 60 days because he's still providing useful information to Mueller.

Pepsidog

(6,254 posts)
15. It's just incredible what's happening. Worse yet is the complexity of the crimes and
Mon May 14, 2018, 05:05 PM
May 2018

the fact that most people have neither the time or the inclination to become informed. My 4 adult kids and wife think I’m nuts when I try and explain all the machinations that occur on a normal day. That’s why DU is great for stress relief. The audacity of these republicans is stunning.

leftyladyfrommo

(18,870 posts)
17. The depth of the corruption is unbelievable.
Mon May 14, 2018, 05:23 PM
May 2018

And no one seems to care.

Maybe it has been that way for years but it took the Trump presidency to blow the lid off it.

 

Sophia4

(3,515 posts)
16. And then, what convinced me as one who has lived in Europe for years, that
Mon May 14, 2018, 05:18 PM
May 2018

Trump really was siding with Russia on important security and other matters, was the way Trump treated the leaders of our European allies when he attended meetings in Europe.

Trump appeared to me to be following closely the Russian foreign policy toward our European allies when Trump was so rude to them. Russia lost its satellite countries because of the difference our very successful post-WWII policies made toward economies of the countries in the West that were devastated by that war, and, in addition, the limits of its economic and leadership capacity under Communism.

Trump's conduct of foreign policy toward Europe convinced me that those who criticize him and accuse him of corruption and susceptibility to Russian influence are likely right.

Now. I must caution that I have no inside knowledge on this. I just see what has happened and that is my opinion.

In addition with regard to another issue, if we in the US drastically reduce our fossil fuel consumption, many very wealthy people here and in the Middle East and Russia (and elsewhere) will lose a lot of income. Just sayin'.

The fossil fuel industry is in denial about climate change because the remedies to climate change will hurt their bank accounts. Yet, science tells us that if we are to save the environment, continue to have a livable earth, we have to change.

And alternative energy, at least in California, is becoming and will continue to be cheaper than using fossil fuels. We don't have to put sunshine in a tanker, a refinery, a truck, a filling station and then into our cars.

We just have to put solar panels on our roofs and we have decreased our need for oil, gas, nuclear, etc. drastically. That's money out of the pockets of a lot of very greedy people as well as a very different economy and environment for us.

So, there is a lot of evidence supporting the theories about the link between Russia and the Trump crew.

 

RandomAccess

(5,210 posts)
19. Would you please post the link?
Mon May 14, 2018, 07:00 PM
May 2018

Some of us like to go there to retweet, check the other comments, etc. Thank.

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