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Michael Avenatti: Trump tower Dec 12, 2016 "Details to follow.." (Original Post) triron May 2018 OP
What's coming next - can't wait. lark May 2018 #1
Lay it on !!! OnDoutside May 2018 #2
I hope he has security. Iliyah May 2018 #3
I expect women to come forward with allegations of harrassment. . .trump needs to deflect cheyanne May 2018 #4
Trump's controllers are much more dangerous... lapfog_1 May 2018 #5
I don't remember what the sketch of the person that threaten Stormy Daniels LiberalFighter May 2018 #12
The One on the Left Leith May 2018 #18
He had been dead for 5 years when that happened Ruby the Liberal May 2018 #72
Ah... Never Mind Leith May 2018 #85
Um... That's Alexander Litvinenko. Dave Starsky May 2018 #29
+1, I put nothing past them uponit7771 May 2018 #7
I too am becoming afraid for his safety. BobTheSubgenius May 2018 #40
Kusher said he left the meeting early, I think Sanity Claws May 2018 #6
May have nothing to do with Avenatti's Tweet, but here are some news Sophia4 May 2018 #8
The comment on the tweet about #fakepresident not going after Avenatti Cary May 2018 #9
He is terrified of Avenatti and it is so satisfying to watch. nt Laffy Kat May 2018 #34
I.can't wait for Avenatti's book Cary May 2018 #53
This is true PatSeg May 2018 #101
The third picture of Cohen and Flynn must be from another time? hexola May 2018 #10
Maybe its someone else...maybe there are 2 Michael Cohens? hexola May 2018 #13
2 Michael Cohens might explain the Prague thing... hexola May 2018 #19
Trump actually explained this as being a "different Michael Cohen"!!!! hexola May 2018 #26
Cohen has multiple passports. Eyeball_Kid May 2018 #47
Why do you post shit from a right wing source on DU? Kingofalldems May 2018 #56
It was the only source that had the direct quote from Trump hexola May 2018 #61
Your emphasis was quite interesting. Kingofalldems May 2018 #65
I think at this point we all understand Mr.Bill May 2018 #71
Nope. Not working. Kingofalldems May 2018 #57
To be clear - I was suggesting that there are 2 nearly identical men who use the name Michael Cohen hexola May 2018 #75
twins? TalenaGor May 2018 #102
You mean Flynn, right ? JI7 May 2018 #14
yes - thank you! hexola May 2018 #15
Cohen is wearing the same tie in all of the pictures. Is that the back side sueh May 2018 #22
Its possible he has put on an overcoat - like Perry has on hexola May 2018 #43
That's a Secret Service clearance pin moosewhisperer May 2018 #24
need more than that... hexola May 2018 #28
SS had been with T since the nomination and before shanny May 2018 #32
understood - but for his personal lawyer? hexola May 2018 #36
I'm sure they have to clear everyone in the building, coming and going, shanny May 2018 #37
I see no evidence of SS in the video downthread... hexola May 2018 #42
so? do you think they are not there at all? shanny May 2018 #46
some background: moosewhisperer May 2018 #88
The pin on one of the Michael Cohens is round - not a triangle hexola May 2018 #89
Interesting. snort May 2018 #69
Same pink tie though Sticky May 2018 #51
Theres a still pic on Brietbart from the meeting that is clearer hexola May 2018 #62
America's lawyer? California_Republic May 2018 #11
Lordy, I hope those are from tapes DesertRat May 2018 #16
He wrote, "Warning ignored". So of course the question is: PearliePoo2 May 2018 #17
Avenatti said on Joy Reid's show on Sat. that spooky3 May 2018 #25
Oh OK, I can read this two ways! PearliePoo2 May 2018 #35
Uh-oh peggysue2 May 2018 #20
I love suspense, but every day Trump is in office means more pain and suffering for a lot of people. Bleacher Creature May 2018 #21
Dirty Donny*s phallus fire was an OMEN Achilleaze May 2018 #23
From the twitter thread blaze May 2018 #27
Good one. calimary May 2018 #54
AHHHHHH! lindysalsagal May 2018 #63
ROFL! n/t Lugnut May 2018 #99
This was not the meeting of June 2016 in Trump Tower. kentuck May 2018 #30
Correct. H2O Man May 2018 #49
It was December? Ruby the Liberal May 2018 #73
And I wasn't even close Ruby the Liberal May 2018 #86
Avenatti has a promising 2nd career as a script writer NastyRiffraff May 2018 #31
Here's what seems like C-SPAN video feed in Trump Tower lobby that day teach1st May 2018 #33
Cohen steps out 11:58 BumRushDaShow May 2018 #50
He could make this pay per view and donate the priceeds. grantcart May 2018 #38
GOOD GRIEF! Michael Avenatti's Twitter is going nuts! PearliePoo2 May 2018 #39
holy cow now even i (who swore off Twitter) is on the edge of my seat and am tempted to sign up onetexan May 2018 #93
BOOM incoming!!?? workinclasszero May 2018 #41
Are these pictures significant in some way? janx May 2018 #44
I'm starting to worry about his safety. George II May 2018 #45
Agreed. I hope he doesn't travel by private jet. LastLiberal in PalmSprings May 2018 #55
I imagine Avenatti has BIG men following him, that like him!!! onecent May 2018 #48
Kick some Donakd dumb fucks ass! BlueJac May 2018 #52
Question-Is Mueller using Avenatti benld74 May 2018 #58
Isn't that a wonderful thought? blaze May 2018 #59
Avenatti has said he is cooperating--whatever that means. triron May 2018 #60
Doubt it . Attack on trump ? I don't think so lunasun May 2018 #84
"And to be clear" triron May 2018 #64
Was this Avenatti chap a Marine or something? gay texan May 2018 #66
Krassenstein: Is this Ahmed Al-Rumaihi? triron May 2018 #67
This places Qatar involvement at critical point in Russia collusion timeline wishstar May 2018 #68
Thanks for pointing this out. triron May 2018 #70
Looks like Avenatti confirms it was Al-Rumaihi... MGKrebs May 2018 #74
Typo apparently. He updated his tweet to read 'Michael Flynn' emulatorloo May 2018 #77
Let me get a Red Stripe to go with these malaise May 2018 #78
Who is Timothy Flynn? triron May 2018 #79
More on Al-Rumaihi (and the Steele dossier) triron May 2018 #80
So how is Trump implicated in all this? triron May 2018 #81
And here's some more... MGKrebs May 2018 #82
Wow! what an octopus of corruption! Spreads all over. triron May 2018 #83
Ominous for Trump? triron May 2018 #97
Putting 2 + 2 together and connecting the dots bucolic_frolic May 2018 #76
That whole Qatar issue was fishy to begin with. MGKrebs May 2018 #87
knr triron May 2018 #94
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2018 #90
It's the opposite of a nothingburger. Trump's lieutenants were selling foreign policy for profit. writes3000 May 2018 #91
It's the opposite of a nothingburger. Trump's lieutenants were selling foreign policy for profit. writes3000 May 2018 #92
Comments from Seth Abramson in this thread: triron May 2018 #95
So will Nicole Wallace, Ari Melber, and Rachel Maddow triron May 2018 #96
kick for visibility triron May 2018 #98
Did the FBI or Homeland Security ask CNN/MSNBC to not report on this? Sancho May 2018 #100
I am frustrated about this today. Nothing so far. triron May 2018 #104
They would report on it if they thought it was a big deal. 7962 May 2018 #105
kick again triron May 2018 #103
kick again triron May 2018 #106

Leith

(7,809 posts)
18. The One on the Left
Sun May 13, 2018, 12:51 PM
May 2018

looks exactly like the sketch and how he would look in 2011 ~ 2012 (did the math - her daughter was born in 2011 and the threat was when she was still in a car seat).

Dave Starsky

(5,914 posts)
29. Um... That's Alexander Litvinenko.
Sun May 13, 2018, 01:09 PM
May 2018

A former FSB agent and defector who was a victim of Putin's goons. These are before and after pictures.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,564 posts)
40. I too am becoming afraid for his safety.
Sun May 13, 2018, 01:31 PM
May 2018

Not edge-of-my-seat yet, because I think anything suspicious that were to happen to Avenatti would be glaringly obvious, but still. He's probably within sight of the edge, if not yet walking on it.

Sanity Claws

(21,849 posts)
6. Kusher said he left the meeting early, I think
Sun May 13, 2018, 12:35 PM
May 2018

Maybe the tape will show that he left the same time as the others. It may also show the Russian operative handing something to one of the Trump gang, like a thumb drive or money.

Or maybe it will show Trump himself coming out of the elevator while talking to the Russian operative.

Probably the truth is far stranger than any of those possible scenarios.

 

Sophia4

(3,515 posts)
8. May have nothing to do with Avenatti's Tweet, but here are some news
Sun May 13, 2018, 12:37 PM
May 2018

headlines for December 13, 2016.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/this-morning-from-cbs-news-dec-13-2016/

Tillerson's appointment was in the news.

Avenatti is probably referring to some of that vast ocean of news that does not make "the news."

He is a great storyteller.

We are all waiting for the next episode.



Cary

(11,746 posts)
9. The comment on the tweet about #fakepresident not going after Avenatti
Sun May 13, 2018, 12:40 PM
May 2018

It's true. He doesnt go after Avenatti.

 

hexola

(4,835 posts)
10. The third picture of Cohen and Flynn must be from another time?
Sun May 13, 2018, 12:41 PM
May 2018

He has a pin on his lapel in the other pictures...

 

hexola

(4,835 posts)
13. Maybe its someone else...maybe there are 2 Michael Cohens?
Sun May 13, 2018, 12:45 PM
May 2018

It looks like Cohen - but is it...?

Avenatti - going to bat with a date - and mis-matching pics doesn't seem likely.

 

hexola

(4,835 posts)
19. 2 Michael Cohens might explain the Prague thing...
Sun May 13, 2018, 12:51 PM
May 2018

Michael Cohen, Trumps lawyer - has "never been to Prague"

But - maybe the other Michael Cohen has?

 

hexola

(4,835 posts)
26. Trump actually explained this as being a "different Michael Cohen"!!!!
Sun May 13, 2018, 01:01 PM
May 2018
http://sonorannews.com/2018/04/21/michael-cohen-lied-not-prague-2016-may-fooled-everyone/

“By the way, we just found out, I was just coming down, Michael Cohen… is a very talented lawyer, he’s a good lawyer at my firm, it was just reported that it wasn’t this Michael Cohen they were talking about. So, all night long, it’s Michael Cohen. I said, I want to see your passport, he brings his passport to my office, I say, hey, wait a minute, he didn’t leave the country, he wasn’t out of the country. They had, Michael Cohen of the Trump Organization was in Prague. It turned out to be a different Michael Cohen. It’s a disgrace, what took place, it’s a disgrace, and I think they ought to be apologize, to start with, to Michael Cohen.”

Eyeball_Kid

(7,432 posts)
47. Cohen has multiple passports.
Sun May 13, 2018, 02:01 PM
May 2018

EU has no passport requirements when moving from country to country. Cohen could have entered Prague or any other meeting place by landing in any of the airports in the EU.

 

hexola

(4,835 posts)
61. It was the only source that had the direct quote from Trump
Sun May 13, 2018, 03:39 PM
May 2018

I remembered Trump saying this - and this was the first story I found with the quote.

Feel free to post a source that pleases you more.

Are you denying Trump said this...???

Kingofalldems

(38,458 posts)
65. Your emphasis was quite interesting.
Sun May 13, 2018, 03:53 PM
May 2018

No I am not denying he said it--but even posting a quote from him is nonsensical because he lies about EVERYTHING.

Mr.Bill

(24,301 posts)
71. I think at this point we all understand
Sun May 13, 2018, 05:10 PM
May 2018

that posting a quote from Trump is not meant to represent it as the truth.

 

hexola

(4,835 posts)
75. To be clear - I was suggesting that there are 2 nearly identical men who use the name Michael Cohen
Sun May 13, 2018, 05:46 PM
May 2018

And they both work for Trump.

Notice the nice solid alibi Michael Cohen has for the time the other Michael Cohen was in Prague...

Sure might be a coincidence - but also - very convenient.

sueh

(1,826 posts)
22. Cohen is wearing the same tie in all of the pictures. Is that the back side
Sun May 13, 2018, 12:55 PM
May 2018

of Flynn in the 2nd picture?

 

hexola

(4,835 posts)
43. Its possible he has put on an overcoat - like Perry has on
Sun May 13, 2018, 01:39 PM
May 2018

In the video, cant tell - but it does look like he has an umbrella in his hand.

moosewhisperer

(114 posts)
24. That's a Secret Service clearance pin
Sun May 13, 2018, 01:00 PM
May 2018

The third picture was taken either before he was given his security pin for the visit or after and it had been taken off. Still the same day, though.

 

shanny

(6,709 posts)
32. SS had been with T since the nomination and before
Sun May 13, 2018, 01:17 PM
May 2018

so they are certainly on hand for the pReznit-elect.

 

shanny

(6,709 posts)
37. I'm sure they have to clear everyone in the building, coming and going,
Sun May 13, 2018, 01:28 PM
May 2018

and especially anyone meeting with the principals (pReznit and family).

 

hexola

(4,835 posts)
62. Theres a still pic on Brietbart from the meeting that is clearer
Sun May 13, 2018, 03:43 PM
May 2018

Shows the convo with Perry Flynn and Cohen - Cohen has a pin stripes on - looks more like a suit jacket than overcoat.

But the video barely picks up the pinstripes.

PearliePoo2

(7,768 posts)
17. He wrote, "Warning ignored". So of course the question is:
Sun May 13, 2018, 12:50 PM
May 2018

What was the warning and who issued it?

Take care Mr. Avenattii! These thugs play dirty and for keeps.

In the meantime...HOLY SHIT! I'm on the edge of my seat!

spooky3

(34,458 posts)
25. Avenatti said on Joy Reid's show on Sat. that
Sun May 13, 2018, 01:01 PM
May 2018

Parties involved need to come clean and get out ahead of the story. Because he has info that WILL come out if they don’t.

PearliePoo2

(7,768 posts)
35. Oh OK, I can read this two ways!
Sun May 13, 2018, 01:22 PM
May 2018

1. That someone gave a warning TO Avenatti and he is ignoring it, so here it goes, OR..

2. As you said, Avenatti warned parties to come clean (and they haven't) because he is going to "out them".

'course it could be 3. BOTH of the above!

peggysue2

(10,830 posts)
20. Uh-oh
Sun May 13, 2018, 12:52 PM
May 2018

This should be an interesting start to the week. Avenatti is someone with a track record for following through.

Coming up next:

Bleacher Creature

(11,257 posts)
21. I love suspense, but every day Trump is in office means more pain and suffering for a lot of people.
Sun May 13, 2018, 12:52 PM
May 2018

If he has information that could potentially save the world, he really should release it!!!

calimary

(81,308 posts)
54. Good one.
Sun May 13, 2018, 02:39 PM
May 2018

Glad he’s on our side!

He’d probably say something about being on the side of the truth or of justice or some such. But that just conveniently happens to be the side we’re on.

kentuck

(111,102 posts)
30. This was not the meeting of June 2016 in Trump Tower.
Sun May 13, 2018, 01:15 PM
May 2018

This was a different meeting. Something we probably have not heard or read about? May have something to do with Trump knowing about Cohen selling access?

Ruby the Liberal

(26,219 posts)
73. It was December?
Sun May 13, 2018, 05:19 PM
May 2018

I'm thinking the plot to kidnap that Turkish guy in the Poconos. Who are those 2 goons on the elevator?

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
31. Avenatti has a promising 2nd career as a script writer
Sun May 13, 2018, 01:15 PM
May 2018

He definitely is a talented purveyor of suspense!

teach1st

(5,935 posts)
33. Here's what seems like C-SPAN video feed in Trump Tower lobby that day
Sun May 13, 2018, 01:19 PM
May 2018


12/12/2016

At about 8:38 it appears that Mike Flynn steps out of the elevator. Camera follows him. That's as far as I've watched.

Interestingly, the description video refers to the Avenatti tweet, and it was posted today.

PearliePoo2

(7,768 posts)
39. GOOD GRIEF! Michael Avenatti's Twitter is going nuts!
Sun May 13, 2018, 01:29 PM
May 2018

In a ten minute span of me refreshing and checking his Twitter feed, I noticed he gained over 2,000 followers!

He has 427K now!! Sure are a LOT of people interested in what he's up to!

onetexan

(13,042 posts)
93. holy cow now even i (who swore off Twitter) is on the edge of my seat and am tempted to sign up
Sun May 13, 2018, 07:49 PM
May 2018

just so i can follow Avenatti on daily basis

wishstar

(5,270 posts)
68. This places Qatar involvement at critical point in Russia collusion timeline
Sun May 13, 2018, 04:40 PM
May 2018

since the Steele Dossier links Qatar's involvement in brokering the Rosneft deal that was to benefit Trump campaign cronies so that a confirmed meeting Dec 12 between Flynn, Cohen and Al-Rumaihi connects another important link in the conspiracy.

MGKrebs

(8,138 posts)
74. Looks like Avenatti confirms it was Al-Rumaihi...
Sun May 13, 2018, 05:38 PM
May 2018

From his twitter:


"Why was Ahmed Al-Rumaihi meeting with Michael Cohen and Timothy Flynn in December 2016 and why did Mr. Al-Rumaihi later brag about bribing administration officials according to a sworn declaration filed in court?"

edit: Now he's corrected it to say: Why was Ahmed Al-Rumaihi meeting with Michael Cohen and Michael Flynn in December 2016 and why did Mr. Al-Rumaihi later brag about bribing administration officials according to a sworn declaration filed in court?"

I wonder what 'Timothy' he had on his mind?

emulatorloo

(44,131 posts)
77. Typo apparently. He updated his tweet to read 'Michael Flynn'
Sun May 13, 2018, 05:52 PM
May 2018



“Why was Ahmed Al-Rumaihi meeting with Michael Cohen and Michael Flynn in December 2016 and why did Mr. Al-Rumaihi later brag about bribing administration officials according to a sworn declaration filed in court?”

triron

(22,006 posts)
83. Wow! what an octopus of corruption! Spreads all over.
Sun May 13, 2018, 06:08 PM
May 2018

Maybe related to Avenatti's mention of media in the original tweet?

bucolic_frolic

(43,177 posts)
76. Putting 2 + 2 together and connecting the dots
Sun May 13, 2018, 05:52 PM
May 2018

Last week I said on @CNN @MSNBC that Michael Cohen deals more likely extortion, than bribery. Later @ATT @Novartis described extraction, fear of adverse consequences unless Cohen paid every $$$. @Ford described extortion; refused to pay. Any other corps told pay or else?


MGKrebs

(8,138 posts)
87. That whole Qatar issue was fishy to begin with.
Sun May 13, 2018, 06:40 PM
May 2018

Our largest air base in the Middle East was there, but we accused them of being terrorists?
Then Trump just as quickly backed away from that and now they are friends. And Tillerson never did agree with calling them terrorists.
And Trump businesses are all tied into Qatar funding.

This could easily be the most direct path to corruption for Mueller's team.

Response to triron (Original post)

writes3000

(4,734 posts)
91. It's the opposite of a nothingburger. Trump's lieutenants were selling foreign policy for profit.
Sun May 13, 2018, 06:56 PM
May 2018

It’s the whole enchilada.

writes3000

(4,734 posts)
92. It's the opposite of a nothingburger. Trump's lieutenants were selling foreign policy for profit.
Sun May 13, 2018, 06:57 PM
May 2018

It’s the whole enchilada.

triron

(22,006 posts)
96. So will Nicole Wallace, Ari Melber, and Rachel Maddow
Sun May 13, 2018, 11:48 PM
May 2018

be talking about this tomorrow? Will Avenatti make more appearances?

Sancho

(9,070 posts)
100. Did the FBI or Homeland Security ask CNN/MSNBC to not report on this?
Mon May 14, 2018, 08:42 AM
May 2018

On the surface, it seems like a big story of tRump corruption and extortion.

Nothing much on Monday shows.

Are they "confirming" the story?

Were the networks asked to put a lid on it?



 

7962

(11,841 posts)
105. They would report on it if they thought it was a big deal.
Mon May 14, 2018, 12:50 PM
May 2018

Its just more chum tossed to the waters by Avenatti. I certainly dont think "Morning Joe" would ignore it, they LOVE him.
I want actual MEAT.

And he better hope he doesn't have any bad business dealings in his past, because you KNOW the GOP has to be digging into HIS past

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