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Michael Avenatti for the win....again! (Original Post) Heartstrings May 2018 OP
Man! That guy is smart! longship May 2018 #1
Tic Tac Toe would be a challenge with this man! Heartstrings May 2018 #2
Michael is way ahead trickyguy May 2018 #3
If it all comes out get the red out May 2018 #4
I fear Avenatti may be playing a dangerous game. KY_EnviroGuy May 2018 #5
Point Taken, But... Roy Rolling May 2018 #7
I hope you're right, but the main point is... KY_EnviroGuy May 2018 #8
I share your concern Lulu KC May 2018 #10
republicans need to REPENT of their lies, sex crimes, and treason Achilleaze May 2018 #6
He is harming Mueller's investigation and should get off the TV oberliner May 2018 #9
K&R. Truth. KY_EnviroGuy May 2018 #11
How do you know these things? LakeArenal May 2018 #15
I see multiple Avenatti threads currently on du Heartstrings May 2018 #17
I'm incorrect on this, 90-percent May 2018 #12
You've said it... to me you are 100-percent. LakeArenal May 2018 #14
Just imagine.. Armymedic88 May 2018 #13
It's 11AM EDT and Michael Avanatti is starting to tweet. Waiting for the Jessie Watters smackdown! TheBlackAdder May 2018 #16

longship

(40,416 posts)
1. Man! That guy is smart!
Sun May 13, 2018, 06:45 AM
May 2018

He knows how to play the game. And he's thinking many, many plays ahead.

My advice... never, ever play chess against Michael Avenatti.



trickyguy

(769 posts)
3. Michael is way ahead
Sun May 13, 2018, 07:18 AM
May 2018

in this game and I think he's going to be the guy who says "Checkmate".
I think he knows just how to work those pawns and he's taking over the board
from the Muller investigation. Or maybe it will be a draw.

get the red out

(13,466 posts)
4. If it all comes out
Sun May 13, 2018, 07:19 AM
May 2018

I still don't see what can be done about it, even if the Dems take back the house? I think 40% of this country would still love Trump if he stood their children up and shot them, their preachers would tell them it was worth it to stop legal abortion and k ep brown people out of the country.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,492 posts)
5. I fear Avenatti may be playing a dangerous game.
Sun May 13, 2018, 07:48 AM
May 2018

I may be odd-man out here, but it seems reckless to suggest that evidence in a crime should see daylight in the media prior to an investigation by professional investigators, detectives and police is even initially complete. That is what is inferred in Avenatti's statement.

Part of the process of having effective grand juries, for example, is that process of keeping evidence and testimony private so that suspects that are a party to the crime are not alerted to the process prior to their being indicted. This is how Mr. Mueller is conducting his investigation, and the ability to keep his cards in his vest pocket has been amazing.

In the last year or so especially, I'm seeing a lot of very loose talk in the public sphere regarding many aspects of the law, and some of the legal experts I follow are concerned that is trend could undermine our system of justice. Other good examples are the claims that tRump has committed treason and that he should be impeached. Those two charges in particular are never to be taken lightly and are part of our protections from the very worst crimes against our nation.

Crimes need to be processed using the proven, logical methods by investigators and then executed in courts, and not sensationalized in public media.

..............

Roy Rolling

(6,917 posts)
7. Point Taken, But...
Sun May 13, 2018, 08:29 AM
May 2018

I think his main point is for witnesses/criminals to turn state's evidence before another criminal/witness rats on them.

It is a call for repentance, before there is no choice but face maximum prosecution. And the faith I have to go along with that is Robert Mueller already knows who those people are.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,492 posts)
8. I hope you're right, but the main point is...
Sun May 13, 2018, 08:48 AM
May 2018

It's the job of prosecutors to pressure witnesses/criminals to turn state's evidence, not an attorney in public media.

That said, however, if an attorney feels the prosecutor is not doing their job for his/her client (or is compromised), then going public may be the only alternative to arrive at justice.

My main concern is that Robert Mueller's investigation in not compromised in any fashion by leaks of key evidence that could possibly prevent tRump and his gang of mobsters from seeing proper justice. Some experts are saying this will be the most complex investigation in our history.

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
6. republicans need to REPENT of their lies, sex crimes, and treason
Sun May 13, 2018, 07:56 AM
May 2018

or they are all getting a one-way ticket to Hell.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
9. He is harming Mueller's investigation and should get off the TV
Sun May 13, 2018, 08:49 AM
May 2018

His one and only concern is making money for himself.

LakeArenal

(28,820 posts)
15. How do you know these things?
Sun May 13, 2018, 10:51 AM
May 2018

I have an open mind. I agree with you to some degree on Steve Schmidt, but how do you know he's harming Mueller and that he's in it just for the money?

Heartstrings

(7,349 posts)
17. I see multiple Avenatti threads currently on du
Sun May 13, 2018, 07:53 PM
May 2018

and yet you decide to comment negatively only to mine? Any good explanation as to why??

90-percent

(6,829 posts)
12. I'm incorrect on this,
Sun May 13, 2018, 09:30 AM
May 2018

but there's few elected officials that come close to Avenatti's crystal clear fact based public statement's.

We had this quality in Al Franken, an intelligent, well informed dogged thorough guy that did his homework. My opinion is that he was politically assassinated by Democratic rivals that want to eliminate any other Dem that would be a more electable choice to be President. and finally get to work unraveling the forty plus years of legal political bribery.

If establishment Republicans are eleven on the treacherous treasonous scale, the totality of establishment Dems average about a six, in my harsh judgmental opinion.

Al's demise was classic Atwater/Rove/Stone ratfucking of the first order. Why should Republicans deviate from the Charlie Brown Lucy football playbook when it's been proven over four decades to be effective and immediate?

-90% Jimmy

PS - Al had the best sense of humor in the Senate heads and shoulders above the rest of the pack. That powerful attribute is lacking in most of our Federal elected officials. (Although that gun nut waving a rifle at his daughters BF was high performance art)

 

Armymedic88

(251 posts)
13. Just imagine..
Sun May 13, 2018, 09:33 AM
May 2018

If he was the chair of the Senate intelligence committee.. We'd have a Bobby Kennedy like investigation happening..

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