Trump ... is setting the table to "Resign" !!!

[Civic Justice]

He knows Mueller has him down cold... and the Rudy stage setup is to prepare the stage for Trump to Exit... Trump wants to say he "resigned on his own terms".. He will likely wait till after he meets with Kim Jung Un, because he thinks he can take credit for the work that Kim has done with South Korea to make Peace. But... the wise minds know Trump had nothing to do with it, and the Republicans are trying to be stage hands, with that delusional claim to nominate Trump for a Nobel Prize. https://upload.democraticunderground.com/100210569161#post3 Trump will claim he was impeded by the Democrats, when fact is... he has done nothing but made a mess of our governance system, tried to discredit every division and agency of the government and pushed divisiveness in every aspect of society, and fleeced the people with that insane tax game, and hurt people by the damage he has done to ACA.

He knows he can't fire Mueller, and If he does, Its over for him, and he can't escape the cover that Mueller has on him... He can't escape the info gleaned from Cohen's files, so he wants desperately to have a way to walk out of the Presidency and say he did it on his terms.

It won't stop the Mueller Investigation, but Trump thinks once he's gone from office, that Mueller's report and finding will be less of a consequence, and the thinks he can fight it in court. Trump seems not to understand the gravity of the mess he created and the damage to America he is doing and has done!!!

Melania will leave him once he's out of office, and then too, comes the legal hammer to also fall on his kids and his son in law as well.
Hopefully the public was watching Giuliani's face and noted his voice tones as he spoke... "it was a stage setting moment"

"mark these words".

[poli3]

1. If that were the case, Cobb would still be in charge

And Giuliani wouldn't have thrown Cohen and Jared under the bus, no Trump intends to fight it out, which is why he hired Clinton's impeachment lawyer.

I think he was genuinely spooked by what happened to Cohen, and he may have considered the idea before, but now he's determined to fight it.

[Kablooie]

2. Also if he leaves Pence will probably give him a full pardon.

So Republicans can keep his base of voters.

If Trump just walks away he could get off Scott free.
If he stays he's sure to go down in flaming hell.

So you may be right.

[poli3]

4. Trump doesn't trust Pence, Pence can't pardon state charges,

and Pence might be in trouble of his own, remember, Russia has his emails and Manafort specifically picked him. Pence may have committed state crimes in IN himself.

[Kablooie]

6. Yes Pence could be in trouble bit

It probably won't become an issue that could drive him from the white house for a long time yet.
And pardoning Trump wouldn't be for Trump but to appease his voters.
You're right that the state charges might still bring him down though.

[poli3]

7. IN doesn't have preemptive pardons

So if Pence did commit those crimes, he'd have to go on trial in Indiana. Also, remember, Agnew was removed first.

[Civic Justice]

16. Yep.. Getting ... Pence is Phase II --

Thank you for reminding everyone, as many remember when Pence hired an attorney when his email became a question. He's wrapped in this thing, and if Trump does as I think and resign, then the exposure of Pence will follow the order...

Everybody in this regime is dragging large "guilt" baggage, and we as a society will get those bags opened.

[Civic Justice]

14. That's part of the scenario I think is being considered.

Also if he leaves Pence will probably give him a full pardon.
So Republicans can keep his base of voters.

If Trump just walks away he could get off Scott free.
If he stays he's sure to go down in flaming hell.

If you note, Pence popped up yesterday, with a praise of Joe Arpaio- with some praise about "Justice"...
I think we will likely see Ivanka and Jared say they are leaving to go back and work on their family soon ?!?!!!@#

[PaulX2]

3. Pence Pardoning Putin's Puppet

Wonder how that will work out.

[RDANGELO]

5. I don't think his ego would ever let him do it.

He will fight it to the end and go to jail a very bitter man, having made himself believe he is the victim.

[blkyank1]

10. The largest bit of leverage Mueller has over Trump.

Is threatening to criminally expose Ivanka. Rudy said as much last night.At worst, the Trump team is willing to throw
Cohen and even Jared, under the bus.But Ivanka is off limits. If Mueller has the goods on her, that could be a pressure
point to get Trump to step down for health reasons with the promise she would not be exposed to criminal prosecution.

[Civic Justice]

15. Rudy's comment about "Ivanka" shows Republican Ignorane

....what the heck does having expensive clothes and "a look" have to do with the character and integrity of a person?
Republican men may be enamored with her, but many Liberal minded women don't see her with such lusting and obsessions.

Maybe they don't know, there is prisons for women in America. With all her money, Martha Stewart did time, Leona Helmsley with all her money, also went to prison.

[panader0]

20. Welcome to DU!

[Thekaspervote]

8. Hal Sparks of Chicago public radio very bright political mind... loved by all of Chicago

Has said for sometime that he thinks Mueller has been working towards getting him to just resign. Having said that, I highly doubt that he will escape, yes he may escape the federal charges, but he and NY attorney general Eric Schneiderman have a long history. Schneiderman is working with the state legislator to undo the double jeopardy laws there which would allow him to charge IQ45, (and others) at the state level for many of the crimes he is pardoned for....no pence pardon powers there.

Also, there are sealed state level indictments RICO against him

Anyway, I hope you are right!

[Boomerproud]

9. No way.

He has no character .

[Scarsdale]

11. Oh. he does have "character"

Unfortunately for us it is all BAD, corrupt, self serving and criminal. He has no SOUL, morals, intelligence. This is what made him perfect for the gop and their plans to strip this country of everything decent..

[Cosmocat]

12. This again ...

Yes, he is going to quit or resign.

For the 1,000 th time.

OR, continue to be the raging dictator wannabe he is.

[Demsrule86]

13. If that were the case, I doubt he would have brought on Giuliani.

[Sampan]

17. I don't think his ego would let him do that. Losers quit. He's always a winner

[leftyladyfrommo]

19. I don't think he will quit either.

He thinks he is doing an A plus job.

[Orsino]

18. I've been saying for three years that he'll quit.

I keep being wrong, but surely there is a point beyond which this presidency is untenable, or at least complete misery for the man.

Until that time, though, he'll have his cheap-ass lawyers use every possible tactic to delay the inevitable, because that is his MO: fuck up, then put off the reckoning while finding a new hustle.

[cbdo2007]

21. He has quit plenty of things, his ego just won't let him admit fault.

He has a long history of bankruptcies and quitting different products and business ventures so we know that isn't above his ego, but he always blames everyone else and I think ultimately he will quit because he will think that is the only way to keep him out of jail. If he quits he can still be like Sarah Palin and be a rock star to the right wing, he'll probably even get his own show on Fox News.