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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDonal Trump is an enemy of the state
I think what happens, in this attempt to maintain political norms in the face of someone who has overturned all of those norms so disastrously, are, for example, these arguments about whether we should refer to Trumps lies as actually being what they are -- which is lies -- and not as "untruths," "mistakes," "alternative facts" or some other verbiage. A wise man once said that the only reason our system in America works is that its based on the notion of shame. A lot of what we think are legal restrictions on the office of the presidency are not actually legal restrictions. Theyre actually moral restrictions that the founders didnt bother to put in writing because they simply assumed that shame would keep a person from abusing the powers of the presidency. They did not recognize the possibility of an absolutely and utterly shameless man being in this position.
But Donald Trumps power comes from the fact that he has no shame whatsoever, and yet we in the media continue to treat him with a level of respect that his office deserves, all the while watching him overturn all those moral norms. Its time to stop pretending that this man and situation are normal. Its time to treat Donald Trump as an enemy of the state, which is what he is.
https://www.alternet.org/scholar-reza-aslan-explains-why-its-time-treat-trump-enemy-state-its-too-late
A shameless sociopath.
elocs
(22,582 posts)We shake our fists and scream it over and over and over again. I don't think it's possible to come up with anything new that is horrible to describe him. We know it already and so do the tens of millions of Trumpsters who worship and adore him and they are going nowhere.
If we are going to defeat the GOP and Trump in the coming battles we need something more than how terrible Trump is because here you are preaching to the choir. Democrats better have a plan and a vision for a better America and not just be anti-Trump.
This is a war that will not be won in just another couple of battles because if the Left is not vigilant and becomes complacent with electoral wins then the rabid right wing will be back.
We need to vote like so many Republicans do--likes it's our duty and not just something we do if we are excited by the election and motivated by the candidates. Because if the Left does not stand united even with imperfect candidates, then the right will take us apart faction by faction.
We must endeavor to persevere.
malaise
(269,054 posts)enemy of the planet
yep
RandomAccess
(5,210 posts)duforsure
(11,885 posts)Under dt is at the greatest threat to us in our history now.
DemocracyMouse
(2,275 posts)pangaia
(24,324 posts)SNIP
"A thought experiment: If this right-wing Christian fundamentalist or fascist movement were to get its way, how would America be different on a day-to-day basis for the average person?
It would be a country that looked enormously like a Christian version of Saudi Arabia or a Christian version of Iran. Nearly one-third of Americans can be defined as Christian nationalists. That is, by the way, more than 100 million people. Lets just keep that in mind for a minute. More than 100 million Americans believe the country is a Christian nation that should be predicated on Christian values and where religious minorities have rights -- but rights determined under Christian law. That is the country we are moving towards. That is not the United States that our forefathers thought to create."
There is more. A LOT more.
SHRED
(28,136 posts)world wide wally
(21,744 posts)these words to grow on."Son, it don't worry about lying. What is anyone going to do about it? Sue you?"
Then they both had a good chuckle.
kimbutgar
(21,163 posts)The few I have met would die for twitler. I heard a guy said he would take up arms in support of twitler. Even those us sane rational people know he is a disaster but sadly a large swath of our population only listen to alternate universe news and think he is the greatest president ever!
We can scream outloud on a mountain but they will go off the cliff for the grifter and attack their fellow Americans who know he is in fact insane, dangerous and an outright lying conman.
Poiuyt
(18,125 posts)Like David Koresh.