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vercetti2021

(10,156 posts)
Sun Apr 29, 2018, 04:26 PM Apr 2018

After relishing the reactions to Michelle Wolf I got one thing to say

If you can't take the same crap you dish out, then shut your mouth. End of story.

Can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.

I can go on. I think the point is made that conservatives can't handle being ridiculed for the shit they've done, but not just them. That includes the media that created tRump and his rabid base.


I hope this is a start to dems and others to start hitting back with force. I'm sorry but the time of taking the high road is over. Only way to beat them is to beat them at their own game, but not with lies. With cold, hard facts.

Much love this Sunday.

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After relishing the reactions to Michelle Wolf I got one thing to say (Original Post) vercetti2021 Apr 2018 OP
Important context tonight following the #WHCD. Cha Apr 2018 #1
Thank you Cha! SunSeeker Apr 2018 #20
Yeah, I saw Habermann's tweet giving Cha Apr 2018 #26
Exactly! SunSeeker Apr 2018 #28
Haha...you got that right! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #35
Perfect Me. Apr 2018 #27
Hey Me! Cha Apr 2018 #29
Yup, Wajahat Ali's comments are particularly on point. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #33
Another lady put down by Drumpf.... DippyDem Apr 2018 #42
Yeah, trump is top dipshit of the century by his own Cha Apr 2018 #56
Hear, Hear! smirkymonkey Apr 2018 #47
You're Welcome, Cha Apr 2018 #57
+1 uponit7771 Apr 2018 #59
Ditto. Snackshack Apr 2018 #2
Agree. And it's not us going low. Rorey Apr 2018 #3
Yes it is oberliner Apr 2018 #8
Going low going high who the hell cares. We are at war with the right. wasupaloopa Apr 2018 #10
Well, I love her Rorey Apr 2018 #11
genuine question drmeow Apr 2018 #15
Have you had much experience with bullies? JenniferJuniper Apr 2018 #17
That Is So True Me. Apr 2018 #31
Oh, we'll respond with facts, right? Yeah, that'll work . . . hatrack Apr 2018 #40
How is a female comedian taking shots at those more powerful than her "bullying?" misanthrope Apr 2018 #55
Back at ya! And agree to the +10000 bronxiteforever Apr 2018 #4
I could agree more. pennylane100 Apr 2018 #5
So basically the opposite of the "when they go low, we go high" approach? oberliner Apr 2018 #6
I know what she said vercetti2021 Apr 2018 #9
"They go low, we go high" does not imply you're not in a brawl. forgotmylogin Apr 2018 #13
I think we should go as low as we need to go. murielm99 Apr 2018 #16
LOL SunSeeker Apr 2018 #22
Since when is telling the truth going low? Tribalceltic Apr 2018 #18
Well said. SunSeeker Apr 2018 #23
I promise I won't vote for Michelle Wolf for President nor MaryMagdaline Apr 2018 #34
We've been doing that for decades, shanny Apr 2018 #48
"chill out, Republicans... alterfurz Apr 2018 #7
LOL SunSeeker Apr 2018 #24
Michelle can really unite and fire up Democrats. jalan48 Apr 2018 #12
RW Nuts are snowflakes with the melting point of helium ThoughtCriminal Apr 2018 #14
When bullies get called out, they cry like babies KelleyKramer Apr 2018 #19
Exactly...an eye for an eye, the Golden Rule, BigmanPigman Apr 2018 #32
K & R SunSeeker Apr 2018 #21
Michelle Wolf Retweets Mika Brzezinski... Beartracks Apr 2018 #25
Perfect reply. By the way, Mika, Huckabee has power not Michelle. MaryMagdaline Apr 2018 #30
The buck stops in tRump's pocket. Truman said the original buck and the kitchen quote. Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2018 #36
Throw their crap back at them.. They have it coming. Miserable snowflakes. SammyWinstonJack Apr 2018 #37
right? FirstLight Apr 2018 #38
I'll be honest, at least half of her material was pretty lame... beachbum bob Apr 2018 #39
Don't be sorry. BobTheSubgenius Apr 2018 #41
You had to wonder what Trump was on about with that fox&friends call in' Wash. state Desk Jet Apr 2018 #43
Maybe they should sit at the kids table Miigwech Apr 2018 #44
Agree Pepsidog Apr 2018 #45
I enjoyed her material. Mr.Bill Apr 2018 #46
Normally I' m not a fan of Kathy Griffin TexasBushwhacker Apr 2018 #49
Any chance people thought she sad that Sanders burns "fat" TexasBushwhacker Apr 2018 #50
I hope Wolf's commentary burns them more than the worst urinary tract infection ever could. Efilroft Sul Apr 2018 #51
M'ya. I suppose 'hitting back' is the immediate retaliatory perspective. GeorgeHayduke Apr 2018 #52
How did he win the office? Mr.Bill Apr 2018 #53
But but but. GeorgeHayduke Apr 2018 #60
We are smart vercetti2021 Apr 2018 #58
if anyone is thinking emotionally, it's the guy who doesn't realize what the job of a comedian is. LanternWaste Apr 2018 #62
+1000. No more Democrats serving as trump's punching-bags. (nt) Paladin Apr 2018 #54
K&R Gothmog Apr 2018 #61

SunSeeker

(51,607 posts)
20. Thank you Cha!
Sun Apr 29, 2018, 05:30 PM
Apr 2018

Where was the media outrage, where were Habermann's finger-wagging tweets, when Trump unleashed lying, sexist attacks on all those great women?

Cha

(297,446 posts)
26. Yeah, I saw Habermann's tweet giving
Sun Apr 29, 2018, 05:36 PM
Apr 2018

ssanders props for not walking out.

And how about all the WH press corps for not walking out when ssanders LIES to them?

DippyDem

(659 posts)
42. Another lady put down by Drumpf....
Sun Apr 29, 2018, 06:37 PM
Apr 2018

From same Axios article about Ivana...now this implies same thing for Melania!

Ivana Trump: "I would never buy Ivana any decent jewels or pictures. Why give her negotiable assets?"

And Melania only got a happy birthday card!

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
8. Yes it is
Sun Apr 29, 2018, 04:39 PM
Apr 2018

That's fine if that is what you want to endorse, but don't pretend it's not going low. Look at Michelle Obama's full quote - when someone acts like a bully, you don't stoop to their level.

 

wasupaloopa

(4,516 posts)
10. Going low going high who the hell cares. We are at war with the right.
Sun Apr 29, 2018, 04:49 PM
Apr 2018

We need to win this thing and we don’t have to care about how to do it. Our very existence is at stake.

Rorey

(8,445 posts)
11. Well, I love her
Sun Apr 29, 2018, 04:52 PM
Apr 2018

And I tried it, and I'm just not as good a person as she is. Sometimes I just get really tired.

drmeow

(5,022 posts)
15. genuine question
Sun Apr 29, 2018, 05:16 PM
Apr 2018

I don't want to make an assumption here. Are you saying that stating the truth can still be going low if you do it in a bullying way or are you saying you felt that Michelle Wolf's speech was going low?

If the latter, follow up questions: Is a roast always going low? Is roasting the WH, the WHC, and the WH spokesperson being a bully?

I'm not saying I agree or disagree, just trying to understand your perspective.

JenniferJuniper

(4,512 posts)
17. Have you had much experience with bullies?
Sun Apr 29, 2018, 05:20 PM
Apr 2018

Ignoring them, playing nice - doesn't work.

They need to be hit back. Hard.

Me.

(35,454 posts)
31. That Is So True
Sun Apr 29, 2018, 05:41 PM
Apr 2018

and typical of Comrade Trump. He can't confront anyone face to face, can't even fire them himself. Backs off especially when someone challenges him.

misanthrope

(7,419 posts)
55. How is a female comedian taking shots at those more powerful than her "bullying?"
Sun Apr 29, 2018, 07:56 PM
Apr 2018

A big kid picking on a smaller kid? That's a bully.

A boss picking on his employees? That's a bully.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
6. So basically the opposite of the "when they go low, we go high" approach?
Sun Apr 29, 2018, 04:35 PM
Apr 2018

I wish more people would heed the wisdom of Michelle Obama.

vercetti2021

(10,156 posts)
9. I know what she said
Sun Apr 29, 2018, 04:48 PM
Apr 2018

But it can only go so far anymore, bullies will bully. I call this self defense.

forgotmylogin

(7,530 posts)
13. "They go low, we go high" does not imply you're not in a brawl.
Sun Apr 29, 2018, 05:07 PM
Apr 2018

They're aiming for the groin, we're aiming for the head.

murielm99

(30,754 posts)
16. I think we should go as low as we need to go.
Sun Apr 29, 2018, 05:19 PM
Apr 2018

And if we hit them in the head, there is nothing there but air. Aim lower.

Tribalceltic

(1,000 posts)
18. Since when is telling the truth going low?
Sun Apr 29, 2018, 05:27 PM
Apr 2018

This was a roast not a campaign event. Michelle is not a politician, she is a comedian. Comedy is one of our best tools against the lying, cheating, bigoted perverts that have stolen the government of the United States.




I enjoyed her comedy and accept it for what it was.

 

shanny

(6,709 posts)
48. We've been doing that for decades,
Sun Apr 29, 2018, 07:22 PM
Apr 2018

going high, being bipartisan, reaching across the aisle...and look where we are.

What was the definition of insanity again?

BigmanPigman

(51,615 posts)
32. Exactly...an eye for an eye, the Golden Rule,
Sun Apr 29, 2018, 05:41 PM
Apr 2018

do unto others , whatever....

They are bullies and proud of it, let's fight fire with fire (and fury).

Beartracks

(12,820 posts)
25. Michelle Wolf Retweets Mika Brzezinski...
Sun Apr 29, 2018, 05:33 PM
Apr 2018

@michelleisawolf
Why are you guys making this about Sarah’s looks? I said she burns facts and uses the ash to create a *perfect* smoky eye. I complimented her eye makeup and her ingenuity of materials.
8:14 AM - 29 Apr 2018
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@morningmika
Watching a wife and mother be humiliated on national television for her looks is deplorable. I have experienced insults about my appearance from the president. All women have a duty to unite when these attacks happen and the WHCA owes Sarah an apology.
6:37 AM - 29 Apr 2018




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FirstLight

(13,362 posts)
38. right?
Sun Apr 29, 2018, 05:56 PM
Apr 2018

First, as someone who identified as a journalist for years, the whole WHCD is actually pretty cool, the scholarships, and opening statement about First Amendment make me proud.

Second, for folks to have so much angst over a 19-minute roast is ridiculous. The event itself was 3 HOURS long...

And finally, as you said, this BS behavior of the right and even dems has been going on for YEARS. OH! and NOW they are butthurt because someone actually spoke truth and burned them openly for it?
fuck you pussies!

(ps, i actually loved the pussy hat joke!)

 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
39. I'll be honest, at least half of her material was pretty lame...
Sun Apr 29, 2018, 06:11 PM
Apr 2018

It's one thing to have some good comedy, but really...I wouldn't spend any money to see her. As for all the outrage..well it is what it is. With so much trump stuff, she should have been funnier.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,564 posts)
41. Don't be sorry.
Sun Apr 29, 2018, 06:25 PM
Apr 2018

They have no concept of "high road," at least in the way it is generally thought of an accepted. Always taking the "Thank you sir. May I have another?" route gets you nothing but blistered.

Wash. state Desk Jet

(3,426 posts)
43. You had to wonder what Trump was on about with that fox&friends call in'
Sun Apr 29, 2018, 06:49 PM
Apr 2018

His half hour rant . They called it a stream of consciousness. There was no stopping him,butting in,getting a word in edge wise or questing his ever changing train of thought. On in continuous for somewhat more in time than Michelle Wolf last evening. Trump's version of pay back by paying forward. You would wonder what the hell compels Trump to do and say the things he does and says. I don't , seems pretty clear to me. I suppose if you expected some kind of light hearted humor ,you may have been somewhat stunned.
Yet not so long ago during his campaign it was Trump playing the media like a fiddle ,wasn't it ? Playing or being played like a fiddle fits neatly into Trump's vocabulary and he gains gratification by it. After all he thought of it himself and acted it out.

 

Miigwech

(3,741 posts)
44. Maybe they should sit at the kids table
Sun Apr 29, 2018, 06:51 PM
Apr 2018

Ms Wolf was excellent. I hope Aunt Sarah Pittypat thinks about last night every time she applies her smoky eye shadow.

Mr.Bill

(24,311 posts)
46. I enjoyed her material.
Sun Apr 29, 2018, 07:07 PM
Apr 2018

But to be honest, I wasn't fond of her timing and delivery. Her voice seemed droning and very monotone to me. But still, very funny. The Irony is that I think Obama could have delivered the material better.

If we absolutely want to nail Trump at this kind of event, I would love to see Kathy Griffin be the host. Trump's head would explode, along with many of his deplorables.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,208 posts)
50. Any chance people thought she sad that Sanders burns "fat"
Sun Apr 29, 2018, 07:28 PM
Apr 2018

instead of "facts" and that's why they are outraged?

BTW, the joke about Mitch McConnell getting his neck circumcised was hilarious.

GeorgeHayduke

(1,227 posts)
52. M'ya. I suppose 'hitting back' is the immediate retaliatory perspective.
Sun Apr 29, 2018, 07:29 PM
Apr 2018

But, in general, we're smarter.

So, rather than employ playground rules, why not engineer a comprehensive strategy?

Stop thinking emotionally. We're all mad, but seeking simple retribution won't win awards or offices.


Mr.Bill

(24,311 posts)
53. How did he win the office?
Sun Apr 29, 2018, 07:42 PM
Apr 2018

I don't see it as retribution or retaliation. I see it as beating them at their own game. They will have no where to go.

vercetti2021

(10,156 posts)
58. We are smart
Sun Apr 29, 2018, 08:59 PM
Apr 2018

But we need to be smart about this and beat them at their own game. Sometimes you gotta mix book and street smarts together.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
62. if anyone is thinking emotionally, it's the guy who doesn't realize what the job of a comedian is.
Mon Apr 30, 2018, 02:52 PM
Apr 2018

I think if anyone is thinking emotionally, it's the guy who doesn't realize what the job of a comedian is.

Let's stop pretending that a comedian doing her job is merely "playground rules," it serves you poorly.

We are, as you said, "smarter," no?

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