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I am talking about Michelle Wolf's performance last night.
The right, of course, is feigning outrage. Never mind that they have said much worse for many years. No, for many decades. Who remembers Limbaugh going after little girl Chelsea Clinton? Was the birther thing worth a bit of outrage?
The media is in many ways complicit even as they posture as neutral. Who recalls, as but one example among hundreds, Joe Brzezinski and Mika Scarborough giving a certain loudmouth birther a microphone every morning while giving him behind the scenes political advice as he ran for president? Anybody?
So last night a comic gave a lot of it back in a single session.
And some on the left wring hands and warn of giving the right ammunition against us?
WHAAAAT?
People, they have been pounding our heads into the pavement and then kicking our teeth for YEARS!
You want to fight or you want to be reasonable?
I want to win. And that starts with getting our base more than fired up. Get our base righteously PISSED THE FUCK OFF.
Stand UP or stand DOWN.
These are your choices.
Pull up your big girl/boy pants and get on with it.
Was last night the right thing?
I don't know, honestly. I think it was. It felt good to me. It felt right. It felt like what I have been wanting for quite some time. Not a rapier to the cheek to draw a stripe of blood. More like a broadsword swing to THEIR necks for a change.
Fuck the snowflakes.
DemoTex
(25,400 posts)"Fuck 'em."
trof
(54,256 posts)Docreed2003
(16,869 posts)Their faux outrage reeks of hypocracy given their history and their support of Cheetolini
TheDebbieDee
(11,119 posts)PaulX2
(2,032 posts)When you sold your soul.
Sorry snowflakes.
trof
(54,256 posts)Squinch
(50,986 posts)was an insult against dishonest or disgusting things they have done or said on the job THAT WE HAVE ALL WITNESSED. She was commenting on things we have witnessed and know to be true. If the right wing finds it disgusting, they should stop doing those things on the job.
Mc Mike
(9,114 posts)She lacked a brave audience, or some of the audience was not good.
None of the repug big boys showed up, I noticed.
Tikki
(14,559 posts)Tikki
Mc Mike
(9,114 posts)rufus dog
(8,419 posts)It is with those on the left complaining about the crudeness.
Michelle Obama is to be respected, but the use of the "if they go low..." every time weakens what she said. Yet many on the left use that as a bat to hit others over the head when someone does something out of their comfort zone.
As a general rule, you take the high road, but sometimes you need to drop down in the gutter with them, kick their ass, roll them face down in the gutter and let them make them choose to give up or drown.
It ain't pretty, but it is the ONLY thing they respect.
Squinch
(50,986 posts)looks, she made fun of her lies. She did not make fun of the republican idiot president's looks or lack of intellect, she made fun of him for saying horrible things that we have all heard.
I thought it was pretty restrained. And quite hilarious.
rufus dog
(8,419 posts)No attacks on her looks, weight, etc. Only attacks on her and others actions.
Squinch
(50,986 posts)dalton99a
(81,554 posts)pangaia
(24,324 posts)THAT is a big truth....
Any sign of weakness a bully will attack.. fight back, and sooner or later they run away with their tail between their legs.
Clarity2
(1,009 posts)And Im still fine with it. The media needs to get over itself. They still bring us kelly ann conway on a regular basis, and trump pundits galore during the campaign who spewed their lies and got free air time. Trump and his administration deserved everything they got.
Could have done without the ted kennedy comment. Murder certainly wasnt the truth. Why bring him into it anyway? And abortion...these decisions are painful and not taken lightly.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)mountain grammy
(26,640 posts)That was the only word in the entire 19 minutes I found objectionable, but I can live with it.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)But..... it was what it was....
Phoenix61
(17,009 posts)I hadn't planned on watching but after reading all the comments on DU I had to. I don't get what people are so upset about. Was it kid friendly? No! It's an adult event not a night at Chucky Cheese. Did she slam some folks? Yep! Did they deserve it? Oh hell yeah! Our being "nice" is what got us in this jam in the first place. It's long past time for us to get the hell off the high road and take the fight to them.
JoeOtterbein
(7,702 posts)Go high and cut their throats!
sarah FAILIN
(2,857 posts)I'm tired of sitting back and taking their crap.
George II
(67,782 posts)...a "fat pig" and all the other insults he's thrown out at people over the last two years.
Is it a deal Sarah?
riversedge
(70,267 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)They're despicable traitors to our nation, no less so because many have no idea.
And I regret behaviors that provide a banquet of false equivalencies for the media to feed the nation.
This gig's a hard one. It's supposed to be mean, and how to carry that off without going so low we can be confused with them? Obama could do it.
GeorgeHayduke
(1,227 posts)tomp
(9,512 posts)I also think the media is smarting about the jokes/statements about their complicity, and so are perfectly willing to provide a platform for the right's poutrage.
We're talking about fascists and enablers of fascists. We should ask which they prefer: jokes about their appearance or calls for their heads.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Plus, he's a nice guy, not just a principled one, and that always comes across.
I was just reading about how ICE has been picking up American citizens and detaining them for weeks, months, years. We need to be calling for their heads.
Just learned Trump is promising to shut down the government in September if he doesn't get more funding for border security. He's trying to blackmail the GOP caucuses of course. Oh, please let this happen!
ancianita
(36,128 posts)Fuck the media horse race bullshit. That very thing led to the crime family leadership Americans are stuck with now.
If they don't call out this corporate military junta for its cunning lies and stealth, these organizations will become caged parrots of propaganda.
The orgs at that dinner need to commit to THE truth, whole truth and nothing but, in the U.S., if they or this country want global trustworthiness.
watoos
(7,142 posts)going to demand that Trump reveal the dirt that he has on Senator Tester? If he comes up with nothing they should demand he apologize.
FakeNoose
(32,681 posts)I'm sure it will be possible to prove intentional malice on this.
Pepsidog
(6,254 posts)heaven05
(18,124 posts)riversedge
(70,267 posts)#🌊🌊🌊 #FlipItBlue #BlueWave2018 #VoteThemOUT
HopeAgain
(4,407 posts)Trump showed no decorum.
paleotn
(17,937 posts)My heart fucking bleeds. If anything, Wolf wasn't hard enough on that piece of ignorant slime called Liabee Slanders.
dembotoz
(16,812 posts)mountain grammy
(26,640 posts)I plan to memorize whole sections
SammyWinstonJack
(44,130 posts)rufus dog
(8,419 posts)and you are right, Fuck the snowflakes, all of them.
People need to wake up.
CrispyQ
(36,489 posts)the dems & left are going to have to get dirty if we want to win this fight. The ratfuckers took the rule book & threw it in the trash. They are counting on the dems/left going high & if we do, we are going to lose the country.
Democratic leadership doesn't act like they realize how vile the other side is or how dire the situation is.
CakeGrrl
(10,611 posts)Sean Spicer, the habitual liar and defender of 45, tried to insult her performance and she said "Thank you".
That's what needs to happen. Throw all the poutrage right back at the liars, racists, grifters, and enablers.
Cha
(297,446 posts)TexasBushwhacker
(20,208 posts)her jokes about Kellyann Conway? Why is Sarah Sanders such a precious flower.
RandomAccess
(5,210 posts)I never liked him at all -- always cringed at his cruel sense of humor. Wolf was certainly no worse, and in fact a lot better. Nor was she more crude than Rickles probably would have been in an off-air setting.
I liked her for the most part, though crudeness in humor is never my favorite and there was a little of that. But you can't deny she's brilliant.