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hlthe2b

(102,405 posts)
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 07:07 AM Apr 2018

So it is Prince Louis ( (pronounced Loo-ee)

Ok, ok, I know this is hardly the most important matter to discuss here, but admittedly I've been fascinated by the proposed names (most which I'd be hard pressed to consider for my own child as they strike me as eliciting school yard bullying)... But, Louis is at least cute for a kid and I could see it growing on me... At least they didn't choose, Albert or some of the other considered names (and with apologies to anyone named Albert, as I like Al just fine)...Personally, of the proposed names I'd seen tossed around, I'd probably have gone with James or Philip... but hey, Louis, to me, isn't that bad despite its rather colored history.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/27/europe/royal-baby-name-intl/index.html

"The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge are delighted to announce that they have named their son Louis Arthur Charles," Kensington Palace said in a statement. "The baby will be known as His Royal Highness Prince Louis of Cambridge.
The name does not have a strong British royal pedigree, being more commonly associated with kings of France. But there is a significant family connection -- and one that is tinged with tragedy.

Louis was the name of the Earl of Mountbatten, the uncle of Queen Elizabeth's husband, the Duke of Edinburgh. After serving with distinction in World War II, Louis Mountbatten became the last Viceroy of India, the head of the British colonial administration in India. He was killed by a bomb placed in his fishing boat by the Irish Republican Army in 1979.
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Siwsan

(26,298 posts)
1. The Earl of Mountbatten is a personal hero of mine. I'm happy they chose to honor him.
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 07:16 AM
Apr 2018

He was very close to Prince Charles - pretty much his mentor. He was, indeed, a truly amazing man.

I actually saw him, several times, when I was in London for the Queen's Silver Jubilee. Very, very cherished memories, that's for sure.

hlthe2b

(102,405 posts)
2. That's a great experience for you... Yes, honoring him seems very appropriate.
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 07:23 AM
Apr 2018

I actually hadn't known that his name was Louis (tend to think of all those historical Kings named Louis and their various, shall we say, controversies) but association with the Earl of Mountbatten puts a very different inflection on "Louis"...

Siwsan

(26,298 posts)
3. He led a fascinating life. I highly recommend reading his biography
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 07:37 AM
Apr 2018

I can still remember the crushing sorrow I felt when he was murdered. I still have the newspaper articles. Yea, he was that big of a hero, to me.

hlthe2b

(102,405 posts)
4. I didn't know a lot about him but since I had spent time in India, I knew his history there...
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 07:41 AM
Apr 2018

Sounds fascinating... The murder two years after the Silver Jubilee apparently included two other of his family members and a young local youth? I'd not known that before... The Brits have a lot to teach us about dealing with the constant threat of terrorism, while not letting it define them. Sad that so many Americans have absolutely no relationship with history and what it can teach us...

Siwsan

(26,298 posts)
5. My Dad was a history teacher. I come by my passion for history from him
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 07:50 AM
Apr 2018

I used to try and come up with someone or something he didn't already know, about history, and never was successful.

My Mom was utterly fascinated by Royal Families - past and present and she led me into becoming a voracious reader about British History.

I was lucky enough to have taken one trip to the UK with both parents. I think it was the happiest I ever saw my Dad. The next time I go to Wales (ancestral homeland for me) I'm going to try to smuggle in some of his ashes, and deposit them somewhere significant.

Byronic

(504 posts)
11. Nice post.
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 08:22 AM
Apr 2018

You have a splendid ancestral homeland, Siwsan. It happens to be my current homeland. I hope you get to come back soon.

Just out of interest: did you ever get chance to see the recent Netflix series The Crown, and, if so, what did you think of the portrayal of Dickie Mountbatten? I thought it was superb, but would like the opinion of someone who knows more about the real, historical man.

Siwsan

(26,298 posts)
13. Unfortunately, I don't subscribe to Netflix
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 08:48 AM
Apr 2018

But people I know who have seen the series have nothing but praise for the quality.

I'm planning a visit to the Welsh Baptist Church in Frostberg Maryland to see if I can get some info on the family genealogy, before I take my next trip to Wales. My family worked in the coal mines in Wales, and moved to the coal mines in Maryland.

My favorite places in Wales are in the north - Conwy, Betws-y-Coed, Beaumaris, Flint (I come from Flint, MI). I've climbed the Great Orme at Llandudno and even visited Llanfairpwll-gwyngyllgogerychwyrndrob-wllllantysiliogogogoch!

In my living room is a disc of slate decorated with Y Ddraig Goch, our glorious Red Dragon, that I bought in Blaenau Ffestiniog.

Yea, I'm pretty heavily invested in my proud Welsh heritage.

Glorfindel

(9,739 posts)
8. He's a hero of mine, too. A very great man.
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 07:58 AM
Apr 2018

The fact that the government of India invited him to be their first Governor-General as an independent dominion speaks volumes of the high regard in which he was held.

 

FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
14. How a British royals monumental errors made Indias partition more painful
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 09:12 AM
Apr 2018

The midnight between August 14 and 15, 1947, was one of history’s truly momentous moments: It marked the birth of Pakistan, an independent India and the beginning of the end of an era of colonialism.

It was hardly a joyous moment: A botched process of partition saw the slaughter of more than a million people; some 15 million were displaced. Untold numbers were maimed, mutilated, dismembered and disfigured. Countless lives were scarred.

Two hundred years of British rule in India ended, as Winston Churchill had feared, in a “shameful flight”; a “premature hurried scuttle” that triggered a most tragic and terrifying carnage.

The bloodbath of partition also left the two nations that were borne out of it – India and Pakistan – deeply scarred by anguish, angst, alienation and animus.

By 1947, the political, social, societal and religious complexities of the Indian subcontinent may have made partition inevitable, but the murderous mayhem that ensued was not.

As a South Asian whose life was affected directly by partition, and as a scholar, it is evident to me that the one man whose job it was, above all else, to avoid the mayhem, ended up inflaming the conditions that made partition the horror it became.

That man was Lord Louis Mountbatten, the last Viceroy of British India.

How did Mountbatten contribute to the legacy of hatred that still, 70 years later, informs the bitter relationship between India and Pakistan?

https://theconversation.com/how-a-british-royals-monumental-errors-made-indias-partition-more-painful-81657

Maeve

(42,290 posts)
7. It has ben said that Mountbatten's death led to Charles and Diana's marriage
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 07:57 AM
Apr 2018

He had wanted Charles to marry his granddaughter, but she turned him down. Charles was depressed at these events and was supposedly a bit desperate to marry so when Lady Spencer seemed so companionable, he proposed to her.

HipChick

(25,485 posts)
10. Camilla chose Lady Spencer for him,since she was screwing his the whole time
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 08:07 AM
Apr 2018

Even before and after the marriage..worst kept secret in London

N_E_1 for Tennis

(9,786 posts)
12. My three year old grandson is Louis...
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 08:35 AM
Apr 2018

pronounced Loo-ee. His full name is Louis French. My daughter and hubby picked Louis cuz they just liked the sound of it and French comes from the dorm name where they first met.
She points out Louis Armstrong, Louis Vuitton, Louis CK.

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