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sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
Wed Apr 25, 2018, 12:12 AM Apr 2018

Terrible result for Republicans tonight in AZ. There are zero excuses. Worse than 2006.


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Nate Cohn

@Nate_Cohn
Regardless of the exact outcome though, this is just another terrible special election result for the Republicans. Zero excuse, given the permanent absentee list.
And you're feeling great if you're, say, the Democratic candidate for Senate in Arizona

It probably won't get covered this way, but this is arguably the worst special congressional election result yet for the GOP

There just aren't any excuses. The Republican wasn't Roy Moore. The Democrat wasn't Conor Lamb. The turnout wasn't low. The district doesn't have, say, a latent Democratic tradition. It oddly has the effect of making all the prior excuses seem less relevant, too.


((Harry Enten)))

@ForecasterEnten
This is hella weak for Lesko. Like really really weak. She'll probably hold on, but wow.

There's just no excuse for the GOP here. Early/mail voting is so easy to do in AZ and GOP voted plenty here. Lesko raised/spent plenty. She wasn't scandal plagued. I mean the special election signal is obvious. It's actually *worse* for the GOP than 2006.






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Terrible result for Republicans tonight in AZ. There are zero excuses. Worse than 2006. (Original Post) sharedvalues Apr 2018 OP
A Pyrrhic victory for the GOP. . . DinahMoeHum Apr 2018 #1
Kick for exposure Angry Dragon Apr 2018 #2
Be of good cheer! This is good news for Dems and for America. sharedvalues Apr 2018 #3
Forget the "blue wave"... I'm sensing a "Blue Tsunami"!! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #4
As I understand, Lesko was somewhat scandal-plagued. And is plenty nuts. Garrett78 Apr 2018 #5
Nah, not true according to neutral observers. Lesko had no excuses. sharedvalues Apr 2018 #6
k&R yortsed snacilbuper Apr 2018 #7
K&R Scurrilous Apr 2018 #8
in a thread about results, the results are often helpful :) Takket Apr 2018 #9

DinahMoeHum

(21,809 posts)
1. A Pyrrhic victory for the GOP. . .
Wed Apr 25, 2018, 12:23 AM
Apr 2018

. . .from Salon's perspective. . .

https://www.salon.com/2018/04/24/democrats-probably-wont-win-arizonas-special-election-but-the-gops-still-in-trouble/

(boldface emphasis is mine - DMH)

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Nearly everyone in politics expects Lesko to defeat Tipirneni, but they'll be paying close attention to her margin of victory. However Republicans choose to spin this, the fact is that anything less than a 10 percent edge will smell like an impending November disaster for the GOP.

Arizona may well have two Senate races in November, with Democratic Rep. Kyrsten Sinema apparently leading in the race to replace retiring Republican Jeff Flake, and Sen. John McCain's health very much in question. If Lesko's margin on Tuesday is in the single digits, watch out for even more GOP retirements, and a widening sense that even states they thought were under control are starting to slip away.

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Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
5. As I understand, Lesko was somewhat scandal-plagued. And is plenty nuts.
Wed Apr 25, 2018, 01:41 AM
Apr 2018

Good showing by our side, but still sad that so many support the likes of Lesko.

Takket

(21,626 posts)
9. in a thread about results, the results are often helpful :)
Wed Apr 25, 2018, 09:17 PM
Apr 2018

The R won by 5 points in a district that voted for John McCain by 22 points in 2008, Mitt Romney by 25 points in 2012, and President Trump by 21 points in 2016

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