Story by the BBC back in Jan. 2017 MSM refused to cover. Why??

[triron]

Link to tweet

And here is the story:

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38589427

[Eliot Rosewater]

1. What the FUCK, so our media didnt want to hurt the golden goose?

I am trying to preserve our media, we need them, but this pisses me off

[politicaljunkie41910]

13. If that tape included Hillary or Bill Clinton, or Barack Obama, it would have been released by now.

It would have been released to make sure that they were sufficiently humiliated that they went away never to be seen again. I want equal treatment for the orange man.

[JI7]

2. US media doesn't do this type of reporting. Instead they bring on both sides

To debate what trump tweeted

[gopiscrap]

3. it needs to be released so the public can see it

[triron]

4. So now we have this:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-04-23/flight-records-illuminate-mystery-of-trump-s-moscow-nights

Hmmm??

[csziggy]

8. Chris Hayes covering those nights right now on MSNBC nt

[Exotica]

5. They didnt refuse to cover, Buzzfeed released the dossier and kicked off the "pee-pee" tape blitz

BEFORE this BBC article.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/kenbensinger/these-reports-allege-trump-has-deep-ties-to-russia?utm_term=.jpE1NmBrr#.vbRYdWmQQ

The US (and global) MSN was going crazy for weeks after that.


Even BEFORE the election the subject was out and being discussed.

On October 31, 2016, a week before the election, Mother Jones reported that a former intelligence officer, whom they did not name, had produced a report based on Russian sources and turned it over to the FBI. The article disclosed some of the dossier's allegations


A Veteran Spy Has Given the FBI Information Alleging a Russian Operation to Cultivate Donald Trump
Has the bureau investigated this material?
DAVID CORNOCT. 31, 2016 11:52 PM


https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/10/veteran-spy-gave-fbi-info-alleging-russian-operation-cultivate-donald-trump/

The first memo, based on the former intelligence officer’s conversations with Russian sources, noted, "Russian regime has been cultivating, supporting and assisting TRUMP for at least 5 years. Aim, endorsed by PUTIN, has been to encourage splits and divisions in western alliance". It maintained that Trump "and his inner circle have accepted a regular flow of intelligence from the Kremlin, including on his Democratic and other political rivals". It claimed that Russian intelligence had "compromised" Trump during his visits to Moscow and could "blackmail him". It also reported that Russian intelligence had compiled a dossier on Hillary Clinton based on "bugged conversations she had on various visits to Russia and intercepted phone calls."

snip


that was also all over the MSN


I haven no idea why Seth Abramson is trying to gaslight all this.

[triron]

7. Motherjones and Buzzfeed are NOT MSM.

[Exotica]

9. all the telly channels and all the major global newspapers talked it into the ground, especially

after Buzzfeed published the dossier. It was EVERYWHERE. All the US late night comedians, etc. etc etc.

Where do you think the thousands (tens of thousands?) of pee pee tape references on this board have come from over the last year and a half? It was huge news over here in the EU for weeks too, and is referenced almost daily still.

You are framing this entire thing like it has basically remained "locked in a box". That is just ludicrous. Even completely non-political (or marginally engaged) people have heard of this Now, getting them to care, and stop Trump, there is the rub, I give you that.

[triron]

12. This story, in particular, (by Pau Wood) has not been covered (with CIA corroboration).

That is the claim. Not all the "rumors" you seem to refer to.

[Exotica]

14. it was big news over here, and i saw it talked about repeatedly in the US media

here is a good BBC programme with Paul Wood and others


The Real Story

Trump and Russia: A Long Relationship

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p052nt68

President Trump’s connections with Russia is a story that won’t go away. There are so many allegations flying around that it can be difficult to separate what is actually known and what is rumour. The President and his supporters have one key point - that despite all the coverage and official investigations, there is still no evidence of collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia. Nor is there evidence that Trump’s business connections to Russia are other than legitimate. But did Russia try to influence the election outcome? And what about the stream of stories linking members of Trump’s team to Russia? As a special counsel is appointed to oversee the investigation into alleged Russian interference in the US presidential election, Owen Bennett Jones and panel of expert guests marshal the facts and explain what is known for sure about Donald Trump’s longstanding relationship with Russia.

[oxbow]

6. People need to step up and help put the pieces together

a great thread... The story is just too big for any one organization or area of expertise. Couple that with the importance of an accurate timeline and corporate media’s other issues, and we have all the more need for citizens like Seth to give context and make connections that have been missed (or in cases like this, suppressed or fallen through the cracks)

[Hortensis]

10. MSM usually hold off on slimy prurient stuff about high-level

officials until it's confirmed and then until events, and reporting by low media, push it to the fore. In general, most feel the public does not need to know every personal activity of officials, any more than they need to know ours. They don't report on presidents' children either.

[uponit7771]

11. Trump is shameless, he openly talks sexually about his own daughter live multiple times. He doesn't

... care what stinky poor people think about him being peed on.

[muriel_volestrangler]

15. There wasn't that much interest in it on DU, either

I transcribed Wood's first report for DU (Raw Story and Wonkette used my transcription), but not that many people replied here, or continued with it: https://www.democraticunderground.com/10028458765