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kentuck

(111,110 posts)
Mon Apr 23, 2018, 02:18 PM Apr 2018

If the "dossier" was false...

...no one would have ever mentioned it. We can surmise, from all the attention it continues to receive, that much -if not all - that is in the dossier is true, including the part about the prostitutes and the pee-pee tape.

Donald Trump has obsessed about it since day one. He continues to obsess about it until this day.

None of it has been dis-proven. For a while, they thought the part about Michael Cohen being in Prague was not true. But now, even that story appears to be true also.

I think we can report with high accuracy that most of the "dossier" is true.

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The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,835 posts)
1. Talk of the "pee tape" really sticks in his craw.
Mon Apr 23, 2018, 02:22 PM
Apr 2018

He bugged Comey about it repeatedly, but he didn't complain about other parts of the dossier. Seems to me that someone who was completely innocent of such a tawdry activity wouldn't keep talking about it over and over and over. Protesting too much, maybe?

Moostache

(9,897 posts)
2. Every SINGLE word of it is true...
Mon Apr 23, 2018, 02:23 PM
Apr 2018

The Pee-Pee Tape? No one innocent of such things would EVER spend so much time and energy discussing such nonsense.

All the other things are equally vexing to the marmalade gorilla....so you know there is more truth than he is comfortable with...which is ANY!!

Eyeball_Kid

(7,434 posts)
3. The dossier reads like a
Mon Apr 23, 2018, 02:26 PM
Apr 2018

standard journalism narrative. Doing a once-over told me that the detail was logically consistent and professionally conceived. Steele was very careful with attributions and other references. He wrote the piece for a very exclusive and selective audience. IMO, his writing is highly credible.

exboyfil

(17,865 posts)
4. And he got referred to the DOJ for prosecution
Mon Apr 23, 2018, 02:30 PM
Apr 2018

for his trouble. Some day he will be recognized as a better US citizen than the entire GOP leadership. Maybe some future President/Congress can confer honorary citizenship on him.

exboyfil

(17,865 posts)
12. I was making a poor joke
Mon Apr 23, 2018, 04:29 PM
Apr 2018

He, a British citizen, had more concern about our democracy than the leadership of one of our two main parties.

bigbrother05

(5,995 posts)
5. The Oppo was initiated by a GOP candidate
Mon Apr 23, 2018, 02:33 PM
Apr 2018

The company hired did a quick overview of DJT and recognized that his Russia contacts needed to be included with the NYC, casino, etc. storylines.

The Oppo company hired Steele to reach out to his Russian contacts on what was circulating in that arena. The dossier was the compilation of the various threads on Trump that would need followed up. He didn't have the full background/details, but passed on info from sources he trusted. The FBI had enough experience with Steele and his reliability that they were following up on the assertions.

When Comey informed his new boss about the accusations in dossier, DJT didn't waste much time in trying to co-opt Comey and then fire him when he didn't get a personal loyalty pledge. His focus on the video is a pretty good indication that the rest was pretty solid and he was most worried about how the tape would play out.

 

poboy2

(2,078 posts)
8. How is it the illogic of who funded it is more important than if it is true for the R's?
Mon Apr 23, 2018, 02:42 PM
Apr 2018

If its TRUE, who cares how it was found out. The man is compromised at least, and agent at worst.
TRAITOR.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,198 posts)
15. According to Kremlin propogandist Konstantin Rykov, Carter Page was meeting with FSB in Moscow.
Mon Apr 23, 2018, 04:58 PM
Apr 2018




What's astonishing about Rykov's claim is not that he made it (he could plausibly say anything and it wouldn't necessarily mean it's true), but he actually made it in July 2016 while Carter Page was in Moscow and before Steele reported about Page to the FBI.

Furthermore, Rykov made the ballsy move of making this claim while tagging former US Ambassador Michael McFaul, with whom he had an ongoing feud over social media. If McFaul were smart, he would have alerted US intelligence of this claim, or perhaps US Intelligence--knowing Rykov (with no threat of repercussions while acting in Russia and with little to lose) loved to brag about his exploits to McFaul--was following Rykov's postings over social media and picked up on it themselves. Either way, it's quite possible that US intelligence knew about Carter Page potentially meeting with Russian intelligence while in Moscow in July 2016 even before Steele alerted them to that very fact.

In other words, the Steele Dossier's claims about Carter Page's activities can be independently verified (or at least independently supported), which contradicts the right wing's claims that the FISA warrant on Page was only based on the Steele Dossier itself and its claims couldn't be verified outside its own content.
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