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https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/4/17/1757913/-James-Comey-s-revenge-tour-proving-he-is-not-the-noble-upholder-of-justice-he-wants-you-to-believe
Here's the thing: the Clinton investigation wasn't an ordinary investigation, and that's precisely why Comey should have shut up about. He's admitting that his July 2016 decision to publicly criticize Clinton was against FBI protocol. There's policy in place to prevent FBI directors from doing things like making public statements or taking action that could directly affect an election, because the FBI director could have undue influence. Comey apparently felt that those rules didn't apply to him.
They didn't apply three months later either, when just 11 days before the election, he took it upon himself to make public the fact that "new" emails relevant to the Clinton probe had been discoveredbefore those emails were even reviewed by the FBI. Those emails turned out not to be new, but to be duplicates of those already seen by the agency. Comey excuses this lapse in his book by saying "It is entirely possible that, because I was making decisions in an environment where Hillary Clinton was sure to be the next president, my concern about making her an illegitimate president by concealing the restarted investigation bore greater weight than it would have if the election appeared closer."
Comey doesn't seem to have any problem with the fact that he overrode FBI policythat he considered himself above itwhen it came to damaging the reputation of the woman he believed was going to become president, and jumping the gun to do so. It was for her own good, he would have you believe, so she wouldn't be perceived as an "illegitimate president." Meanwhile, Russia was helping elect the other guy. Making him potentially an illegitimate president. Perhaps Comey shouldn't have injected himself there, either, though there should have been an overarching national security concern about the possibility that one of the candidates was somehow tied to a hostile foreign government that the FBI knew was interfering in the election.
Partisan or not, Comey was making decisions that proved he was holding himself above the agency he was directing, above the long-held policies that governed how it is supposed to operateand how he was supposed to operate. His hubris, on full display as he preens and gossips and makes catty remarks about Trump's spray tan and hand size, quite possibly put this man he considers a dangerous buffoon in office. And even now, Comey says he wouldn't have it any other way. There's nothing at all noble in any of that.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)Self serving ass.
olegramps
(8,200 posts)OliverQ
(3,363 posts)lunamagica
(9,967 posts)one of them.
olegramps
(8,200 posts)Like Smercornish who claimed to be an Independent. He declared that he was an Independent so that he could bash Clinton and pull votes away from the Democrats. He is a despicable bastard who was and continues to be a filthy Republican. The most effective thing a person with a following can do to help their candidate is declared that they are backing a Independent to split the ticket. It nearly assures that their real candidate will win.
DURHAM D
(32,611 posts)Comey released the Clinton files on Marc Rich pardon just one week before the election.
We all know why.
A reminder - Comey donated to McCain and Romney when they ran for President.
I absolutely hate his sanctimonious ass.
lunamagica
(9,967 posts)"Non-partisan"? Right.
Thanks for the information
Wwcd
(6,288 posts)There was no reason for what he did 11 days before the election.
None.
Don't give a damn how he spins it, he'll never remove the stink
mtnsnake
(22,236 posts)There's nothing we can do about what he did in the past, so instead of biting off our noses to spite our faces, how about we stop taking the bait that the Right is putting in front of our faces where they're trying get us to diss Comey all the time.
DURHAM D
(32,611 posts)He is just trying to make sure everyone knows that only he knows the full truth.
The problem is that he has shown extremely poor judgment for a very long time and does not know when he is bull shitting.
F him.
Shipwack
(2,170 posts)Nt
lunamagica
(9,967 posts)Perseus
(4,341 posts)I am trying to analyze this "Comey Tour" because his agenda has other motives besides trying to create excuses for himself because he knows he is partly responsible for the idiot-in-chief.
There is something about the guy that is very sinister and I personally don't trust him. He knew what he was doing when he brought the HRC emails out before the election, I don't think his new reasoning is honest, he had to know that he was doing something that would benefit trump, and hurt Clinton. He went behind Loretta Lynch, and he knew he was doing wrong.
Every time I look at Comey I see Devin Nunes, not sure why, they do look alike, but as I said, there is some clear falsehood in Comey and I can't put my finger on it.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)believe it would protect him from the IGO's recommendation of any criminal charges, and he's already been fired, but continued media and public support might protect Republicans from consequences of not proceeding with charges.
lunamagica
(9,967 posts)mtnsnake
(22,236 posts)lunamagica
(9,967 posts)you just talked about how wrong was to "diss' Comey, basically telling me not to post anything critical of him.
You completely ignored the contents of the article.
mtnsnake
(22,236 posts)I said no such thing. My exact words: "There's nothing we can do about what he did in the past, so instead of biting off our noses to spite our faces, how about we stop taking the bait that the Right is putting in front of our faces where they're trying get us to diss Comey all the time."
No where did I tell you not to post anything critical of him. Obviously you can't take it if someone doesn't fall in line with your views, so I'll be sure to take that into account before partaking in one of your "honest" discussions again.
lunamagica
(9,967 posts)"so instead of biting off our noses to spite our faces, how about we stop taking the bait that the Right is putting in front of our faces where they're trying get us to diss Comey all the time."?
mtnsnake
(22,236 posts)They (the Right) will do anything to divide us. They love it that some of us are dwelling upon what Comey did in 2016 just before the election. The more time that we spend dissing Comey now for what he did in the past, the more it plays into their hands. The right wingers want nothing more right now than for us to diss Comey in order to discredit what he's doing now.
I'm not here to tell you that Comey is some honorable hero all of a sudden because of what he's up to now. The guy is/was a POS for what he did to Hillary, but if it's perceived that he might be able to help along the process of seeing Trump removed from office, then I hope to hell whatever he's up to now works.
lunamagica
(9,967 posts)of Comey or not?
mtnsnake
(22,236 posts)Diss him all you want for what he did to Hillary. I've done the same. Like I said, he was/is a POS for what he did to us in 2016.
I just don't think it's wise for our MO right NOW to be one that tries to discredit him for what he's currently doing to Trump at this time.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)lunamagica
(9,967 posts)Just because he is useful now, it doesn't mean that we forgive and forget. What Comey did should never be allowed again. All the praise he is receiving now will only embolden anyone who wants to interfere with the electoral process again.
I believe everyone involved in this debacle needs to be held accountable, Comey included.
And IMO, it will be Muller who will bring trump down.
Comey is in a self-serving book tour. It's all about him. For Muller, it's about the country.
mtnsnake
(22,236 posts)but I don't think it's in our best interests to go out of our way to discredit him (now) for what he's currently doing at a time when he might be one of Mueller's star witnesses to getting Trump ousted from office.
Please give us your take on exactly how mntsnake tried to stifle the discussion. Also, I happen to agree with his/her remarks. Not much of an honest discussion with only one side being allowed to speak their piece. You accuse others of what you are doing yourself. Just like a damn republican, that you probably are.
lunamagica
(9,967 posts)"don't diss Comey" that how I read it, and that is not a discussion.
mtnsnake
(22,236 posts)and good analogy about the republican comparison. I couldn't agree more with you.
moondust
(20,003 posts)it took him to make up his tortured explanation.
A cynical "creative speculator" might wonder if his Clinton announcement in July wasn't intended to knock her out of the race, and when that didn't do the trick he had to dream up another one to be strategically announced a few days before the election.
Afromania
(2,771 posts)reasons of conflicted self interest by trump and the republican establishment refused to so much as bat a lash.
heaven05
(18,124 posts)through and through. That's all I needed when the HRC email flap, 11 days before a national election happened.
emulatorloo
(44,178 posts)They didn't apply three months later either, when just 11 days before the election, he took it upon himself to make public the fact that "new" emails relevant to the Clinton probe had been discovered
Um no Comey, didnt make that public. He sent a top secret memo to congress, which Jason Chaffetz illegally leaked. Author should attempt to get his facts straight.
Joining Trumps acolytes like Joe DiGenova to discredit him as a witness to a Obstruction of Justice may feel good, but it ignores the big picture. Knock yourself out though.
peggysue2
(10,839 posts)We need to stop spreading Republican memes and disinformation. Chaffetz was the leaker. And yes, discrediting Comey as a witness in Trump's Obstruction of Justice only serves the Trumpster and his odious acolytes.
They know this. We apparently do not.
We need to start looking beyond Comey the man, the Republican and recognize how consistent and useful his testimony is in bringing this debacle to an end. Anything less? We lose. Not just as Democrats but as a country.
Let's not do the Devil's work in a play meant to wreck us all.
Cheviteau
(383 posts)...for bringing some truth to this discussion.
obnoxiousdrunk
(2,910 posts)PubliusEnigma
(1,583 posts)Proud Liberal Dem
(24,437 posts)The most charitable explanation is that he bent over backwards, front, sideways and every which direction in order to respond to Republican criticisms of the FBI investigation and conspiracy theories (basically, because FBI found no criminal wrongdoing and Bill Clinton had contact with Loretta Lynch) and, in doing so, he ended up stepping all over the Election and Hillary Clinton to prove how "impartial" he was when he should have just ignored the idiot Republicans in Congress and kept his mouth tightly shut, like he did about their nascent investigation of Donald Trump, which also, incidentally, started during the Election.
romana
(765 posts)Literally everything out of his mouth explaining his actions is to defend his ego and self-image. I doubt he has any sense at all how irrational it comes across. Deep inside, he knows he fucked up and his psyche is in overdrive to protect himself from that truth.
If I didn't loathe his sanctimony and sexism so much, I'd feel sorry for him.
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,437 posts)Cosmocat
(14,572 posts)in 1996 ...
The Clinton haterade is strong in him.
lunamagica
(9,967 posts)but we're supposed to believe he is a man of integrity.
Ferrets are Cool
(21,109 posts)I back it 100% and do not care how much money he makes. The harm that he did to the Democratic cause cannot be undone. But, WE CAN USE HIM.
All the negative posts in the universe are not going to affect this man one bit. But if it helps you to get something off your chest, go for it.
Cheviteau
(383 posts)Comey was Obama's FBI Director too.
Pepsidog
(6,254 posts)Like Trump, Comey is thin skinned and thinks he is above us all. He broke protocol and it cist Hillary the election. When the notification ame across my phone that Comey had reopened the email investigation I felt like someone kicked me in the gut.
Nitram
(22,869 posts)He believes he is principled and honest, but is willing to rationalize away anything he does that contradicts that notion. In my opinion, he clearly hates Clinton, and that was the real reason for the way he handled the email investigation.
tavernier
(12,398 posts)but if he can help Mueller get Rump, I will wish more power to him.