This Guy Bezos is an idiot..

[busterbrown]

How the hell can he run a business in this manner...

and he owns a decent paper? The W. Post? Doesn't he? Whats going on here.. Don't know much about the man.


https://thinkprogress.org/amazon-workers-rely-on-food-stamps-24ab86dd6495/

[mobeau69]

1. The orange one hates him so he's got that going for him. nt

[JI7]

2. Raise the minimum wage. It's not just amazon.

[busterbrown]

8. Exactly why we are heading into another

bad recession..Time line in another 12 to 24 months.. just a guess..

[lame54]

3. the walmart model...

the very successful walmart model

don't shop walmart
don't order through amazon

until then why should they change?

[MrScorpio]

4. As a greedy rich fuck, living on the backs of others...

He's living the American Dream, of course.

[Blue_true]

5. That is disappointing to read.

The state's that are offering all that money should instead put it into social services and local businesses that pay quality wages.

[onethatcares]

6. billions of dollars

and he's tighter than a snakes ass to his employees. There is a sickness about that much money.

[SallyHemmings]

7. Robots in NE Pennsylvania

It used to be one of my clients for workers compensation. When we visited the plant, the security was insane. We had to get on the list. Airport security is less intrusive. We met in the lunchroom, which I found odd because it was during lunches. It was nuts, we sat through three lunches, they made no eye contact. Came in and out in a matter of minutes. The other location one hour north relies on robots and they know it. The AVERAGE wage was 12 per hour, which one of the better paying jobs in the area, with the exception of the hospital system. Spankyville.

[comradebillyboy]

9. Bezos is a visionary capitalist who changed retail

marketing forever. Like every other business he pays the prevailing wage rates. Like every other business he seeks tax breaks and advantages for his company. He is a super efficient capitalist, why would anyone expect anything different from him?

Don't like capitalism then elect politicians who reject capitalism. Oh yeah those folks are mostly unelectable.

[hueymahl]

12. There is always going to be a faction that attacks successful people

Pretty sure the people working these jobs feel like they won the lottery with the wage scale and benefits Amazon gives out compared to other options.

The problem is not with Amazon. It is with how we have structured society. Or rather, how we have allowed the social safety nets to
be deconstructed.

[comradebillyboy]

17. That's the problem complex social problems

are complex and very difficult to solve. As H.L. Mencken observed “Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.”

[melman]

19. 'Pretty sure the people working these jobs feel like they won the lottery'

Based on what?

[hueymahl]

24. Based on a combination of direct knowledge and 3rd party reports

Its all anecdotal, but I am friendly with half a dozen Amazon "blue collar" workers. They do everything from boxing up orders to maintenance to warehouse supervision. All of them say the work can be hard, but it is a solid job with good benefits that support their family. None of these guys and gals have a college education (two of them have technical college degree). I actually asked them about the "pissing in a bottle" reports, and they laughed. They basically said the job can be exhausting, especially around the holidays, but fearful of leaving for a bathroom break? They had never heard of it.

[JCanete]

21. it isn't simply about attacking rich people for the sake of attackihg them. They are

attacking us, in all kinds of ways. You could say its just business and that they are just following the rule of law and exploiting it to their advantage, but that would entirely ignore the fact that they are shaping the rule of law...that they are putting tons of money into politics to guarantee that they get the outcomes they want. They put tons of money into shaping public opinion, and certainly to an extent we have ourselves to blame, but propaganda works, which is why Bezos owns a paper now. I imagine the effect of that will seem subtle or non-existent. The reality though is that it, along with every other corporately owned "news" entity, results in anything but subtle consequences.

We have ceded all balance. We let them take their swings and instead of striking back, we turn the other cheek. . Right now you, in same breath as saying that we have allowed the social safety nets to be de-constructed, lead off with "there is always going to be a faction that attacks successful people." You are already doing their work for them. They are simply targets because they are so successful. We're just haters.

[hueymahl]

25. You and I don't really disagree on the big picture

I guess a more refined statement would be that there appears to be indiscriminate attacks on successful people, regardless of how well they treat their workers. By all accounts I have seen, Amazon workers are treated well, comparatively. Bezos generally has a progressive bent to his politics by everything I have seen. My direct interactions with Amazon employees informs me that they are pretty happy with their job and benefits. So, I could be wrong, but it appears the OP is making attacks on a company that, while certainly not perfect, is not really the enemy, and arguably is a big source of positive influence in society.

Heck, knowing nothing more than Trump hates Bezos and Amazon is evidence enough for me that they are one of the good guys!

[rockfordfile]

10. I don't understand.

"Don't know much about the man." yet you can him a idiot?

[procon]

11. Corporations are mandated by law to return the maximum profits

to their investors. The only way to protect low wage workers is through laws that shield them from the sort of abuse and exploitation that any business can rightly use to get richer.

[Patterson]

16. That's not true.

https://www.google.com/search?q=are+corporations+required+by+law+maximize+shareholder+return&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en-us&client=safari

[kstewart33]

13. Bezos is not an idiot.

Far from it, he is very likely the most brilliant American businessman in the last 50 years.

He is currently the richest American. Amazon's stock price approaches $1,500 a share. His website has over 100 million people who are members of Amazon Prime which costs $100 per year membership. It comes with plenty of benefits so middle and working class Americans are among its members.

It is only a matter of time before Bezos owns retailing in this country.

His ownership of the Washington Post has been a boon to the newspaper because he's provided the $$$ to hire more reporters, beef up the company's website and that boosted the paper's circulation. He has wisely stayed out of running the paper; the editorial page and news reporting is up to its editors who were there before he bought the paper. His $$$ is the main reason why the Post has broken more stories about Trump/Russia than the New York Times.

But and it's a huge but, he is an a**hole when it comes to compensating his people. Whether he will change his ways or not, no one knows. But he is not an idiot.

[Turbineguy]

26. In my opinion

Amazon also benefits from the NRA fear mongering. You don't have to worry about being a random shooting victim while shopping from your computer. Also, parking at the nearest mall is a problem.

[busterbrown]

27. matter of symantics..isn't it?

IMO a Billionaire who doesn't compensate or give a shit about compensating his labor force fairly is a freaking idiot..

[kstewart33]

30. Not really.

The supreme measure of business success in the US is profit, the bottom line. He's pursuing profit and his HR policy so far boosts profit. When his HR policy starts hindering profits (and it very well might), Bezos will change the policy, which is something smart CEOs do.

Isn't it more a question of values? Bezos' values about his workforce are terrible.

[busterbrown]

31. He's an idiot because he does not ackowlege

what you are clearly stating. He's an idiot...

A Rhodes Scholar, or Noble Peace Award Winner are both idiots if they drive drunk.

Bezos is a smart guy...no doubt...

[Timewas]

14. Bezos

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/06/the-pitchforks-are-coming-for-us-plutocrats-108014

[melman]

15. But wait

There's more..

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142038939

[oberliner]

18. Those jobs will be lost to automation shortly

[melman]

20. Sarah Silverman

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

[mountain grammy]

29. Way to go, Sarah

Love ❤️ her.

[NCTraveler]

22. The issue is much deeper than...

“Bezos is an idiot.”

Considering that is the assumption you draw, you might want to stay away from the larger conversation. Just vote for the Democrat.

[lindysalsagal]

23. Our industrial revolution era economics only work for a portion of the labor force

We'll have to start paying for basic needs for the untrained workforce soon, when they're finally all replaced by robots.

Canada has a nice program that employs people to staff and run nursing homes for the elderly: It provides income for the healthy and care for the elderly: win-win. But it runs right up against our "anti-socialist" american capitalism: It's non-profit and paid by taxing the wealthy.

[PatSeg]

28. Also, Bezos has refused to pull advertising from

Breitbart. This in spite of numerous petitions that he won't even acknowledge. Over 2000 companies have stopped advertising on Breitbart in response to customers' demands. Bezos can't be bothered to comment, let along stop the advertising.