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https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/4/20/1758732/-Prospect-of-a-worst-case-scenario-settles-in-for-Trump-allies-Cohen-flippingProspect of a worst-case scenario settles in for Trump allies: Cohen flipping
Kerry Eleveld
Daily Kos Staff
Friday April 20, 2018 · 4:02 PM EDT
Donald Trump apparently made a habit of denigrating and shaming his longtime fixer and lawyer Michael Cohen. In fact, Trump's constant slights and jabs seemed to be his abusive way of relating to Cohen.
But now that Cohen holds Trump's fate in his hands, Trump allies are conjecturing that Cohenwho once bragged he would "take a bullet" for his bossmight just flip the script on Trump. The New York Times writes:
Ironically, Michael now holds the leverage over Trump, said Sam Nunberg, a former aide to Mr. Trump who worked with Mr. Cohen and Mr. Stone. [...] Mr. Nunberg added that whenever anyone complains to me about Trump screwing them over, my reflective response is that person has nothing to complain about compared to Michael.
Mr. Stone recalled Mr. Trump saying of Mr. Cohen, He owns some of the finest Trump real estate in the country paid top dollar for it, too. In Mr. Trumps worldview, there are few insults more devastating than saying someone overpaid. [...]
Over the years, Mr. Trump threatened to fire Mr. Cohen over deals that didnt work out, or snafus with business projects, people who were present for the discussions said. He was aware that Mr. Cohen benefited in other business projects as being seen as affiliated with the Trump Organization, and it irked him.
Could Trump possibly be a worse person? Also, you reap what you sow. Trump's routine disparagement of Cohen was likely exactly why Cohen made recordings of his callsso he could play them back to earn points with the bossman and cover his own butt at the same time.
Well, congrats, Trump! Because those recordings might just ruin your presidency, devastate your personal business, and perhaps even earn you a trip to jail some day. In fact, all of those prospects are likely what led Trump to add Rudy Giuliani to his legal team this week, according to Harvard professor Alan Dershowitz.
Perhaps. Or maybe Cohen will decide for his own sake and the sake of his family that it's high time Trump got his just deserts.
(The one caveat to the NYT story quoted above is that Roger Stone and his mentee Sam Nunberg must have some self-interest in pushing the narrative theyre pushing above. Im honestly a little unclear what it is, but certainly people could weigh in below.)
BigmanPigman
(51,624 posts)but I do not understand why Stone and Nunberg would say (and what they stand to gain) that Cohen was screwed by tRump. I know that Nunberg has not been a fan lately but Stone is still on team-tRump and said that Sam is no longer a friend and is crazy too.
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)It's something that people defending Trump do by reflex at this point when someone from their circle is 'in the barrel' ...
1) Try to downplay the closeness/intimacy (the person in trouble) has with Trump personally. There's not a lot of 'wiggle-room' for Stone here, given how long Cohen has been his fixer and how many people know it, so something like this will have to do, and
2) More importantly, it's to set the stage so that IF (the person in trouble) ends up having something negative/incriminating to say about Trump ? Well, heavens, it's just lies they're just telling out of vindictiveness, jealousy about Trump's Level of fame/wealth/prowess/awesomeness, and/or Trump ripping them off or otherwise screwing them in the past, or because Trump said mean stuff about them.
Frankly I'm sort of stunned that this ploy wasn't instantly obvious to the OP and yourself ... you're both pretty smart ... and literally this is "The Trump Circle Defending Trump 101"
I kinda expect Hannity to start trumpeting this storyline about this in 3-2-1 ... hell, now that his Cohen connection is in the open, he can claim he's seen Trump act this way towards Cohen himself.
Take care