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kpete

(71,996 posts)
Thu Apr 19, 2018, 11:52 AM Apr 2018

David Corn: How many times does this have to be explained?

@DavidCornDC
How many times does this have to be explained? DJT Jr., Manafort & Kushner met with Russian emissary & signaled to Moscow they would gladly collude with secret Russian plan to help Trump by accepting HRC dirt. They showed Moscow they approved of efforts to intervene.





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David Corn: How many times does this have to be explained? (Original Post) kpete Apr 2018 OP
The Con believes that if he says it often enough malaise Apr 2018 #1
Trump believes it......... SergeStorms Apr 2018 #9
Trump's gut hides his junk ... RainCaster Apr 2018 #15
He hasn't seen it........ SergeStorms Apr 2018 #17
David Corn's explanation NewJeffCT Apr 2018 #2
These folks are willfully stupid but the true culprits are the enablers in the Reptilian party who jimlup Apr 2018 #18
No worries, Mr. Corn, 70% of Americans understand your version of the facts perfectly well Mr. Ected Apr 2018 #3
"The other 30% pretends they don't." dchill Apr 2018 #5
The other 30% are Russian sympathizers and therefore traitors. LiberalFighter Apr 2018 #8
Fellow Travelers bigbrother05 Apr 2018 #10
Somewhere, deep down in the reptilian cortex where his brain still functions, BobTheSubgenius Apr 2018 #4
i don't think so. barbtries Apr 2018 #11
It's that simple... Ligyron Apr 2018 #6
Anyone seeking further details can find them in "Russian Roulette" FakeNoose Apr 2018 #7
it's on my bookshelf. barbtries Apr 2018 #12
Yes they pull together a lot of details and make sense of it FakeNoose Apr 2018 #13
Trump even said he was going to release the dirt on Clinton scarytomcat Apr 2018 #14
+1 uponit7771 Apr 2018 #16

SergeStorms

(19,201 posts)
9. Trump believes it.........
Thu Apr 19, 2018, 02:32 PM
Apr 2018

if you lie to yourself enough times, and have a strong history of lying - like Trump - you'll actually believe the lie to be the truth yourself, even though secretly you know it's a lie.

Trump is a Professional when it comes to self-delusion.

SergeStorms

(19,201 posts)
17. He hasn't seen it........
Fri Apr 20, 2018, 02:24 AM
Apr 2018

for the past 20 years. He knows his urine comes out of something down there, but it may as well be a chicken neck for all he knows. No, Trump is the kind of guy who checks himself out in front of a full-length mirror all the time. In his reflection, he still sees a 25 yr. old "Adonis", a "lady killer" of mythic proportions. If his ego would only allow him to see and believe what's actually there, he'd die from a heart attack instantly!

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
2. David Corn's explanation
Thu Apr 19, 2018, 12:56 PM
Apr 2018

is too complex for a large majority of Trump followers. Unless There is video of him signing a contract that states "I agree to collude with Russia to steal the election in exchange for dropping sanctions" then most of them won't believe it, and even then, many would not.

jimlup

(7,968 posts)
18. These folks are willfully stupid but the true culprits are the enablers in the Reptilian party who
Fri Apr 20, 2018, 07:29 AM
Apr 2018

know better and are only stalling out of partisan loyalty and service to the moneyed interests.

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
3. No worries, Mr. Corn, 70% of Americans understand your version of the facts perfectly well
Thu Apr 19, 2018, 01:28 PM
Apr 2018

The other 30% pretends they don't.

bigbrother05

(5,995 posts)
10. Fellow Travelers
Thu Apr 19, 2018, 04:13 PM
Apr 2018

Who me? I just happen to be walking along the road next to this parade of Fascists, Racists, Thugs, and Misogynists, nothing to do with me. I just picked up this sign to block the sun beating down on my skin head.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,564 posts)
4. Somewhere, deep down in the reptilian cortex where his brain still functions,
Thu Apr 19, 2018, 01:32 PM
Apr 2018

even The Dotard knows it. Or does he? Is it really possible that he believes his own lie?

barbtries

(28,798 posts)
11. i don't think so.
Thu Apr 19, 2018, 06:15 PM
Apr 2018

i think he's in a semi-permanent state of near panic right now. he is trying to tell the big lie enough that the people will believe it. but imo he knows he's in deep, deep shit.

FakeNoose

(32,645 posts)
7. Anyone seeking further details can find them in "Russian Roulette"
Thu Apr 19, 2018, 02:14 PM
Apr 2018


by Michael Isikoff and David Corn
(c) 2018

FakeNoose

(32,645 posts)
13. Yes they pull together a lot of details and make sense of it
Thu Apr 19, 2018, 06:36 PM
Apr 2018

For example they researched a lot of details on the Podesta/DCCC email hacks and explain how it came about in the summer of 2016.

There's an interesting timeline on how the Dept of Homeland Security and NSA were planning to make an announcement about the Russians interfering with our election (hacking etc.) but their timing was very unfortunate. They released it on the same day that the Access Hollywood tape came out. So how much coverage did the Homeland Security receive in the media? Almost none - everybody was talking about Trump's "pussy grabbing" tape.

I'm still in the final chapters of the book, so I can't give a complete overview, but it's definitely worth the read.

scarytomcat

(1,706 posts)
14. Trump even said he was going to release the dirt on Clinton
Thu Apr 19, 2018, 08:47 PM
Apr 2018

but he never did
someone must have told him knowingly receiving stolen materials is a crime
never heard another word about the big reveal
this happened the day of or day after the big meeting about "adoptions"

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