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HR McMaster's dad died a suspicious death? (Original Post) Tavarious Jackson Apr 2018 OP
The riot gear story was for Pittsburgh manor321 Apr 2018 #1
Thank you. Tavarious Jackson Apr 2018 #4
I read that as: Control-Z Apr 2018 #7
"Blunt force trauma?" Tatiana Apr 2018 #2
Philadelphia is gearing up for riots? jberryhill Apr 2018 #3
Yes. Thank you. nt Tavarious Jackson Apr 2018 #5
The percentage of nursing home residents radical noodle Apr 2018 #8
In any event jberryhill Apr 2018 #9
I wasn't disputing you at all radical noodle Apr 2018 #10
Yes, and it wouldn't surprise me if the admin staff falsified the report. Laffy Kat Apr 2018 #11
Certainly most of the residents radical noodle Apr 2018 #12
You'd think they'd know and be careful with the father of a freakin three-star general ProgRocknProgPol Apr 2018 #13
Or maybe all the more reason to freak-out and start falsifying documents. Laffy Kat Apr 2018 #15
also just accidents KT2000 Apr 2018 #14
That is so true. Laffy Kat Apr 2018 #16
An excellent book for all radical noodle Apr 2018 #17
Not that the general will read this but I feel I have to say it ProgRocknProgPol Apr 2018 #6

Tatiana

(14,167 posts)
2. "Blunt force trauma?"
Wed Apr 18, 2018, 11:58 PM
Apr 2018

He fell, hit his head and no one noticed? Staff at the retirement home told McMaster's family that documents related to his father's death were falsified.

Could be a horrible unrelated tragedy, but I'm suspicious.

Condolences to the McMaster family.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
3. Philadelphia is gearing up for riots?
Wed Apr 18, 2018, 11:59 PM
Apr 2018

First off, Philadelphia and Pittsburgh are two very different, widely separated cities. Yes, they are both in Pennsylvania, and yes, they both begin with the letter "P". Beyond that, you seem to have confused a piece of reporting about Pittsburgh with Philadelphia.

Secondly, the death is "suspicious" in that it may have been an incident of nursing home maltreatment.

radical noodle

(8,003 posts)
8. The percentage of nursing home residents
Thu Apr 19, 2018, 12:42 AM
Apr 2018

who fall is quite high. My grandmother and my husband's grandmother both died soon after a fall in a nursing home. My guess that rather than maltreatment, it's more likely neglect.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
9. In any event
Thu Apr 19, 2018, 12:44 AM
Apr 2018

I believe the "suspicious circumstances" has a lot more to do with the nursing home, than some bizarre plot to kill an 85 year old stroke victim as a means of intimidating his adult son somehow.

Laffy Kat

(16,383 posts)
11. Yes, and it wouldn't surprise me if the admin staff falsified the report.
Thu Apr 19, 2018, 01:33 AM
Apr 2018

I actually believe this sort of thing happens frequently, unfortunately.

ProgRocknProgPol

(143 posts)
13. You'd think they'd know and be careful with the father of a freakin three-star general
Thu Apr 19, 2018, 01:46 AM
Apr 2018

Not to mention a former cabinet member. On the one hand, I'm sure the McMasters would prefer this not be made into a big confusing fuss, but on the other hand, the scrutiny this nursing home would certainly get from this should have made them realize that doing everything by the book was the only way to prevent hell.

KT2000

(20,583 posts)
14. also just accidents
Thu Apr 19, 2018, 01:50 AM
Apr 2018

my dear friend who was in a nursing home would flail when she was being transferred. They eventually were able to convince her to stop but in the meantime she made it difficult for the workers. I also believe she was dropped/slid when she was put into bed and the brakes on the bed were not secured.

I don't know what happened with McMaster's father but the reason people are in such homes is because family is no longer able to do the care themselves. It is risky and even though there is training, accidents do happen because sometimes the circumstances are nearly impossible.

Laffy Kat

(16,383 posts)
16. That is so true.
Thu Apr 19, 2018, 02:15 AM
Apr 2018

In the book, Being Mortal Atul Gawande addresses the falling/frailty issue and how it limits peoples' independence and ultimately their dignity. It sounds awful in a way, but you have to ask yourself if falling is the worst thing that could happen? Personally, I'd take the risk just to stay in my own home and most people, given the choice, probably would. I highly recommend Being Mortal to anyone having to make these difficult decisions.

ProgRocknProgPol

(143 posts)
6. Not that the general will read this but I feel I have to say it
Thu Apr 19, 2018, 12:14 AM
Apr 2018

Condolences to General McMaster and his family. Between Gregg Popovich's wife, Bruno Sammartino, and now the general's father today has been a sad day.

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