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Until We have an Inverse of the Fox News Channel,,,,,, (Original Post) Cryptoad Apr 2018 OP
We don't need another Fox News. IluvPitties Apr 2018 #1
"inverse" is the key word,,,,,,,,, Cryptoad Apr 2018 #3
Wish in one hand... -nt poboy2 Apr 2018 #16
We need to bring back and enforce the "Fairness Doctrine" and end the business model of hate media. Moostache Apr 2018 #2
an "inverse" Fox is not the same thing as a "anti-Fox" Cryptoad Apr 2018 #4
I struggle with the inverse concept being effective... Moostache Apr 2018 #7
If Dems are in the majority can they do this? BigmanPigman Apr 2018 #5
Why did President Obama decide to take single payer off the table even as a negotiating chip? Moostache Apr 2018 #9
You would think they could get their act together long enough BigmanPigman Apr 2018 #11
In fairness, the threat to the republic and our system that is Trump may spur real action... Moostache Apr 2018 #15
I agree, a liberal version of Fox would be a colossal disaster. Initech Apr 2018 #19
Why would we want another Fox News? Cracklin Charlie Apr 2018 #6
Nobody said anythang abt wanting "another Fox New" Cryptoad Apr 2018 #12
We should not lower ourselves to that level. That created the environment of the rise of Spanky. Trust Buster Apr 2018 #8
Wouldn't the inverse of fox news Soxfan58 Apr 2018 #10
"honest reporting with journalistic integrity" is ,,,, Cryptoad Apr 2018 #14
MSNBC from 6PM - 11PM oberliner Apr 2018 #13
Fox News Cryptoad Apr 2018 #17
Just saying there's a nice batch of good, smart, progressives doing shows every weeknight on MSNBC oberliner Apr 2018 #18
Yes indeed,,,,,, Cryptoad Apr 2018 #20

Cryptoad

(8,254 posts)
3. "inverse" is the key word,,,,,,,,,
Mon Apr 16, 2018, 11:07 AM
Apr 2018

Fox News aint going away.....They are not going to give up the Ghost just as they are reaching the point of reaping all the rewards of all the work and $$$ they have invested into cultivating their followers.

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
2. We need to bring back and enforce the "Fairness Doctrine" and end the business model of hate media.
Mon Apr 16, 2018, 11:01 AM
Apr 2018

The bottom line is this - the airwaves and digital distribution channels of the country are PUBLIC utilities, period. To allow any group to monopolize and politicize them to a constant drumbeat of slanted (at best) and false (as usual) propaganda bites is damaging to the fabric of society and the health of the nation.

We do not need an "anti-Fox", we need to kill off Fox and any of its malignant off-spring....including efforts to create a liberal "alternative" to it.

Journalism is not meant to be the pursuit of ratings and trapping people into insular, self-reinforcing feedback loops...it is meant to illuminate debate and present the populace with needed facts and information to better self-rule. Democracy without a functioning media is Idiocracy, and we are dangerously close to that now...

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
7. I struggle with the inverse concept being effective...
Mon Apr 16, 2018, 11:17 AM
Apr 2018

The reason why is much like the futility of "debating" a young Earth Creationist or flat-Earth proponent. The "argument" is never on a level field as one side will usually try to make a brick-by-brick explanatory case and the other will simply spend their time throwing the maximum amount of poo on the wall in order to obfuscate the issue and force the rational side into using all of their time refuting nonsense instead of making rational points and arguments.

All in all, it is insanity to not have a standard of truth and facts any longer, and if by inverse of Fox, you mean all truth, all the time instead of all lies all the time, then I would be likely to agree such a thing would be good for the nation...

BigmanPigman

(51,608 posts)
5. If Dems are in the majority can they do this?
Mon Apr 16, 2018, 11:12 AM
Apr 2018

Why haven't they done it before like after the Bush/Gore election and then Obama and Dems had control from 2008-2011?

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
9. Why did President Obama decide to take single payer off the table even as a negotiating chip?
Mon Apr 16, 2018, 11:22 AM
Apr 2018

There are frequently examples of Democrats (by no means an Obama-only phenomena....Clinton did it too, in many ways far more so with "triangulation" and more) beginning arguments or policy debates by first tying one arm behind their back and then using the free arm to fight amongst ourselves first before getting to the real opposition...

Party unity and toeing the line are not hallmarks of the Democratic Party as they are in the GOP. The right wing is obedient and will get in line and vote as they are told. Democrats? Roy Rogers was right!

"Democrats never agree on anything, that's why they're Democrats. If they agreed with each other, they'd be Republicans."
https://www.willrogerstoday.com/will_rogers_quotes/quotes.cfm?qID=4

BigmanPigman

(51,608 posts)
11. You would think they could get their act together long enough
Mon Apr 16, 2018, 11:27 AM
Apr 2018

for a singly effort that is so important to the party's future.

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
15. In fairness, the threat to the republic and our system that is Trump may spur real action...
Mon Apr 16, 2018, 11:33 AM
Apr 2018

If THIS shitshow presidency cannot encourage enough of us Democrats to unite against the common enemy and put in place safe guards that prevent any recurrences, then we may need to spend a very long time in the mirror!

Initech

(100,080 posts)
19. I agree, a liberal version of Fox would be a colossal disaster.
Mon Apr 16, 2018, 11:49 AM
Apr 2018

Just like our attempts to create liberal alternatives to AM hate radio. The GOP has a monopoly in this area and it won't be knocked down any time soon. Bringing back the Fairness Doctrine would be a definite step in the right direction toward fixing this but right now we don't have a way of getting our message out via mass media, and we won't be changing the minds of the MAGAholes any time soon.

Cryptoad

(8,254 posts)
12. Nobody said anythang abt wanting "another Fox New"
Mon Apr 16, 2018, 11:27 AM
Apr 2018

ur right ,,,, we dont need "another Fox News" . Is not the inverse of a Lie the Truth?

 

Trust Buster

(7,299 posts)
8. We should not lower ourselves to that level. That created the environment of the rise of Spanky.
Mon Apr 16, 2018, 11:18 AM
Apr 2018

We don’t need our Spanky. Sorry.

Cryptoad

(8,254 posts)
14. "honest reporting with journalistic integrity" is ,,,,
Mon Apr 16, 2018, 11:32 AM
Apr 2018

the inverse of the journalistic functions of Fox News, which would be a sub-set within the domain of the Inverse of Fox News.

Cryptoad

(8,254 posts)
17. Fox News
Mon Apr 16, 2018, 11:39 AM
Apr 2018

is far more than just the programs with conservative viewpoint. It has cultivated an audience that is addictived to it.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
18. Just saying there's a nice batch of good, smart, progressives doing shows every weeknight on MSNBC
Mon Apr 16, 2018, 11:44 AM
Apr 2018

Cryptoad

(8,254 posts)
20. Yes indeed,,,,,,
Mon Apr 16, 2018, 11:56 AM
Apr 2018

good award-winning journalism.,,,, but we have got to do what the movers and shakers of modern Conservative Movenment have done and culivate an audience that demands 247 that type of journalism!

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