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MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
Mon Apr 16, 2018, 09:39 AM Apr 2018

IMHO, Comey wants to sell books, make lots of money and get even with Chumpy,

pretty much in that order. I doubt anything he says will have an effect on Mueller's investigation or public opinion. I heard him say he thinks Chump is "above average in intelligence," , and he does NOT favor impeachment, even if the turd is "morally unfit" to serve as president. I still don't believe the guy is our friend.

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IMHO, Comey wants to sell books, make lots of money and get even with Chumpy, (Original Post) MoonRiver Apr 2018 OP
The battles will be what they will be Angry Dragon Apr 2018 #1
I pretty much agree with you. Sanity Claws Apr 2018 #2
The federal prosecutor with a storied career is not a strategizer? He got Muller installed. Kirk Lover Apr 2018 #5
He knew Mueller Sanity Claws Apr 2018 #7
Well Comey didn't personally appoint Mueller...but he got the ball rolling on that. He knew Kirk Lover Apr 2018 #8
They revealed most of the "best bits", before the interview aired Siwsan Apr 2018 #3
I heard that too MadCrow Apr 2018 #11
I honestly, at this point, don't care what his motives are Rorey Apr 2018 #4
I'm wondering if Comey really meant street smarts rather than book smarts and Kirk Lover Apr 2018 #6
If they all end up incarcerated, eventually Rorey Apr 2018 #10
Yes. This is it. It was said to counter what some say in that he is too stupid to know what he was poboy2 Apr 2018 #12
And also to counter that he is not medically mentally unfit. So yes is is a stable genius. Kirk Lover Apr 2018 #14
Yes, that was explicitly stated by him as well. The OPs post is not fully informed, imo. -nt poboy2 Apr 2018 #18
"I heard him say he thinks Chump is "above average in intelligence," eyeroll' poboy2 Apr 2018 #9
I gave IQ tests for 20 years. MoonRiver Apr 2018 #15
Why wouldn't he? procon Apr 2018 #13
I dunno...if I were him not sure how much love I would have the Republican party the Kirk Lover Apr 2018 #17
I agree, he is not our friend, but he's right about much. DFW Apr 2018 #16
I agree that he MIGHT be useful against the Idiot. MoonRiver Apr 2018 #23
I think he's wondering which way the wind will blow in the future and trying to set his sails DFW Apr 2018 #24
He doesn't favor impeachment because he said that gets the American people off the hook ... MaryMagdaline Apr 2018 #19
It doesn't matter if he is our "friend." What matters is he is a weapon. Adrahil Apr 2018 #20
Absolutely 100% correct. -nt poboy2 Apr 2018 #22
I don't think anyone here is arguing that Comey is our "friend" Kaleva Apr 2018 #21

Sanity Claws

(21,849 posts)
2. I pretty much agree with you.
Mon Apr 16, 2018, 09:45 AM
Apr 2018

Comey probably wants to clear his name too.
The more I see and hear of him, the more I realize that he is indeed sanctimonious and not very imaginative. He is not a big picture thinker, not a strategizer.

Sanity Claws

(21,849 posts)
7. He knew Mueller
Mon Apr 16, 2018, 09:56 AM
Apr 2018

He knew Mueller would be straight as an arrow and that most likely was the criterion he used. I really don't think he had any grand strategy.
Mueller, on the other hand, is definitely a strategizer.

 

Kirk Lover

(3,608 posts)
8. Well Comey didn't personally appoint Mueller...but he got the ball rolling on that. He knew
Mon Apr 16, 2018, 10:02 AM
Apr 2018

EXACTLY what he was doing by leaking his notes...that act got Mueller appointed by Rosenstein.

By default you have to be a good strategizer if you are a successful prosecutor or attorney for that matter.
By the same token not every strategy is fruitful or wise.

Bottom line...I believe Comey was fucked no matter what he did but he should still of defaulted to the protocol and could of always used that as an "excuse". His integrity got in the way and he way over thought this...I think this is an instance where he was trying to have too much integrity and he himself went sideways and pissed everybody off on both sides off. But me...I ain't mad at him, I forgive James Comey and I'm moving on to more NEFARIOUS issues.

Siwsan

(26,268 posts)
3. They revealed most of the "best bits", before the interview aired
Mon Apr 16, 2018, 09:48 AM
Apr 2018

That being said, I wanted to throw something at the TV, during his rationalizations.

And how about that bit where he said impeachment wasn't the way to go because the public made the mistake of electing him, so they need to remedy that mistake by voting him out. At least that was my interpretation of that particular statement.

MadCrow

(155 posts)
11. I heard that too
Mon Apr 16, 2018, 10:04 AM
Apr 2018

My interpretation was that Comey thought impeaching Trump and possibly removing him from office would be done on legal grounds, but if the electorate voted him out by a large margin that would be a moral victory- showing that the American public overwhelmingly rejected him and his policies.

Americans will need to "make America great again" after this Trump fiasco is over!

Rorey

(8,445 posts)
4. I honestly, at this point, don't care what his motives are
Mon Apr 16, 2018, 09:51 AM
Apr 2018

As long as he's a thorn in 45's side, it's fine with me if he makes money and gets even with "Chumpy" ( )

Editing to add: I absolutely don't agree with the "above average intelligence" thing. NONE of the trumps fit that description. NONE.

 

Kirk Lover

(3,608 posts)
6. I'm wondering if Comey really meant street smarts rather than book smarts and
Mon Apr 16, 2018, 09:55 AM
Apr 2018

obviously I don't need to elaborate why.

I don't think RUMP is dumb but he's ignorant as hell on many fronts and has no desire to change that.

 

poboy2

(2,078 posts)
12. Yes. This is it. It was said to counter what some say in that he is too stupid to know what he was
Mon Apr 16, 2018, 10:05 AM
Apr 2018

doing was illegal. He damn well knew. Comey then went into the consciousness of guilt actions

 

poboy2

(2,078 posts)
9. "I heard him say he thinks Chump is "above average in intelligence," eyeroll'
Mon Apr 16, 2018, 10:03 AM
Apr 2018

Does it not occur to you that the context in which he said this bears on its purpose?

That isn't the entire quote either and is missing the premise, qualifiers, and context that informs the meaning.
He may be all or none of what you say, but if you are going to criticize, be earnest.

This was said to counter the notion that Agent Orange is too stupid to know what he was doing (obstructing justice, blackmail, etc)

procon

(15,805 posts)
13. Why wouldn't he?
Mon Apr 16, 2018, 10:05 AM
Apr 2018

Of course he's going to put his own self interests first and feather his nest after the way Trump axed him. No, Comey is no friend to Democrats, but he is a useful tool for Dems to exploit as long as he's telling tales to make Trump look bad. Never forget, Comey is a Republican and he would not want to impeach Trump because he knows it would be a disaster for the GOP that would damaged their brand for years. I don't think that he cares about saving Trump's ass, he just wants the Republican Party to survive his presidency.

 

Kirk Lover

(3,608 posts)
17. I dunno...if I were him not sure how much love I would have the Republican party the
Mon Apr 16, 2018, 10:13 AM
Apr 2018

way they are going after him. I believe him when he gave his reason why he didn't think impeachment was the way to go. I get why he's saying it. Getting voted out soundly by the people is decisive...however, I disagree with him on that too because....
1) Impeachment of RUMP just sounds fun!
2) Then we can indict and he can pardon no one.
3) Please see number 1

DFW

(54,405 posts)
16. I agree, he is not our friend, but he's right about much.
Mon Apr 16, 2018, 10:09 AM
Apr 2018

Trump probably has "street smarts." Knows little, but can outsmart adversaries, and senses what to preach to his choir.

Impeachment will NOT result in conviction and removal from office. There are not 67 Senators who would vote for that, so it would be a gesture to distract and embarrass Trump, but unlike Clinton, Trump would brag and crow about his Senate acquittal as if he had been elevated to the Papacy. That Trump is morally unfit to serve as president is obvious even to half the people who support him. Indeed, that is WHY they are glad he is president. They don't want Jimmy Carter. They want Al Capone.

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
23. I agree that he MIGHT be useful against the Idiot.
Mon Apr 16, 2018, 10:24 AM
Apr 2018

I wish he, like you, had said an impeachment conviction wasn't feasible. Instead, he sounded like a Repuke trying to keep his party intact.

DFW

(54,405 posts)
24. I think he's wondering which way the wind will blow in the future and trying to set his sails
Mon Apr 16, 2018, 10:32 AM
Apr 2018

At this point, I think he's looking out for himself, and has given up all thought of loyalty to anyone.

MaryMagdaline

(6,855 posts)
19. He doesn't favor impeachment because he said that gets the American people off the hook ...
Mon Apr 16, 2018, 10:15 AM
Apr 2018

He favors VOTING HIM OUT in order to restore our honor. I believe he cares about the justice system. His reference to how things used to be run under Hoover and how bad things were under Hoover, makes me trust his historical perspective. He knows that if Trump is impeached or indicted, the RW will always say that the system is rigged. If he is VOTED OUT, the people have spoken.

We can disagree on the method of removal, but there is NO DOUBT this guy favors removal. I think he is secretly happy Mueller has the job since he trusts Mueller implicitly. So do I.

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
20. It doesn't matter if he is our "friend." What matters is he is a weapon.
Mon Apr 16, 2018, 10:17 AM
Apr 2018

And we must use what he has to offer, ruthlessly.

The hand-wringing and pearl-clutching exhibited by some here is simply NOT helpful, and plays right into the Mango Moron's hand.

Kaleva

(36,309 posts)
21. I don't think anyone here is arguing that Comey is our "friend"
Mon Apr 16, 2018, 10:18 AM
Apr 2018

But as long as he's landing some serious punches on Trump, I say let him do it and avoid being a tool for Trump in helping to tear Comey down.

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