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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsBarbara Bush has declined further medical intervention, seeking comfort care only.
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I think it seems like she will pass soon.
At least one thing I can say about Barbara Bush she took her job as 1st Lady seriously and as a privilege and a job to do unlike the current one.
Neema
(1,151 posts)could remain that way for another six months or more.
Anyway, I'm no fan of the Bush family, but I don't wish ill on Barbara.
sunonmars
(8,656 posts)AnnieBW
(10,450 posts)I wouldn't wish that on anyone. Goddess bless her. She always spoke her mind.
misanthrope
(7,422 posts)I never heard that about her.
mopinko
(70,198 posts)we say in hospice care that even tho you know it could be any day, that doesnt mean you will be ready when that day comes.
it will still be an awful day.
xoxo
Neema
(1,151 posts)Very sweet of you to say. And may I say that if you work in hospice care you are the best of humanity.
Sadly, my relationship with her is...complicated. I don't wish for her to be in pain but neither do I have strong positive emotions for her. The negative emotions have also faded with her illness and time, so I'm mostly left with as much feeling as I would have for any stranger in a nursing home at the end of his or her life. I wish them well and hope their passage is comfortable.
it can be so hard to navigate all this w such mixed emotions. i hope you can sort it out, and feel good about it.
i had a very hard time coming to terms w my feelings about my dad when he died. he was an alcoholic, and a very flawed human. i was 17 when he died and it took me until i was in my 60's to appreciate the things he did give me. most of my siblings have not gotten there.
it is a shame we have to be raised by humans.
Neema
(1,151 posts)a flawed human being. I'm sorry.
I've had plenty of time to reconcile and accept my relationship with my mother, so that's a good thing. I already grieved for the mother I never had. When her body stops existing I will stop to acknowledge the passing but highly doubt I will shed many tears. I know that makes me sound cold, but that's how I feel.
My siblings are in many different places regarding her, too. Some of them will be very upset and sad about losing her. Others haven't let go of their anger at her so I'm not sure how they'll react.
Sigh, yeah, like you say, it's a shame we have to be raised by humans. In my case, raised by a woman who should have adopted a couple cats instead of having human babies.
Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)Tipperary
(6,930 posts)Hearing the context makes tha statement a bit different.
Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)Kaleva
(36,329 posts)Tipperary
(6,930 posts)Alrighty then, no doubt there will be a grave dancing thread or two for you to enjoy soon enough.
Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)Meanwhile don't miss a chance to claim I'm grave dancing, even though I clarified my position on that no less than twice.
EffieBlack
(14,249 posts)Because I like to think were not the kind of people who decide who is and isnt worthy of basic human kindness when they are suffering. Isnt that the kind of attitude we criticize others for?
Arkansas Granny
(31,525 posts)Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)There are millions of people dying at this very moment and I just don't see any good reason to concern myself with this one any more than any other. Especially since she couldn't be bothered to concern herself with others, even those whose fate was intertwined with those in which she had influence.
EffieBlack
(14,249 posts)So give her one of yours. It won't even take a minute of your time."
Tipperary
(6,930 posts)Telling us all how much you just do not care. Oh the irony.
FreeState
(10,576 posts)nolabear
(41,991 posts)You got to cross that lonesome valley.
You got to cross it by yourself.
Oh, nobody else can cross it for you.
You got to cross it by yourself.
Tipperary
(6,930 posts)But it seems inevitable here.
MichMan
(11,960 posts)"Her comment was not meant as a dismissal of actual deaths or suffering (troops had not yet been engaged at the time of her remark), but of news coverage that amounted to one expert after another making predictions about what they saw as likely to occur."
Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)Tipperary
(6,930 posts)Nevernose
(13,081 posts)Part of their premise is Prior to the commencement of hostilities, such matters were the subject of endless supposition by various news pundits.
But she didnt make those comments before the start of hostilities. We were already having a ground war in Afghanistan. Her husband had already gone to war in Iraq. Furthermore, her opposition to supposition on the news is in addition to not wanting to see body bags or hear about deaths.
It seems clear to me that there was a whole list of things she didnt want to waste her beautiful mind on. Snopes is attributing the most generous possible motives.
IluvPitties
(3,181 posts)Let the afterlife be pleasant for her.
Tipperary
(6,930 posts)Snackshack
(2,541 posts)Eventually got to this point where it was quality over quantity of life (her words). It was a tough choice but given what she was going thru I completely understood and supported her...hardest thing I have ever done. Four months later she was gone.
I hope Mrs. Bush find peace and some form of comfort in the time remaining.
sunonmars
(8,656 posts)At least one thing I can say about Barbara Bush she took her job as 1st Lady seriously and as a privilege and a job to do unlike the current one.
MiniMe
(21,718 posts)She passed from Colon Cancer, and just wanted comfort care. I respected her wishes.
Siwsan
(26,289 posts)I have never seen anything to admire about Mrs. Bush, but it's not so long since I lost my own mother, and her passing was not peaceful so this is where my empathy for her grandchildren kicks in.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,711 posts)I'll remember the good Barbara Bush who informed Dan Quayle that a family is any collection of people loving one another.
dembotoz
(16,826 posts)EffieBlack
(14,249 posts)That's pretty cruel and judgmental.
Aren't we supposed to be the good guys?
nolabear
(41,991 posts)Katrina was my people. It was a stupid statement. I forgive her. The weight of endless anger just drags us down.
EffieBlack
(14,249 posts)nolabear
(41,991 posts)Theres such a big difference between forgiving and condoning or allowing things to continue.
dembotoz
(16,826 posts)Makes me a bad person???
I am sobbing
Dennis Donovan
(18,770 posts)Kaleva
(36,329 posts)Exultant Democracy
(6,594 posts)of black democrats.
GHWB used to invite my pops out to swing at some balls anytime they were in the same area code, and he wasn't inviting the press to show off his black friend. They just liked spending time with each other.
I also spent a lot time hanging out with Barbra the younger when she lived in New Haven (across the street from me) and she is one of my favorite people. She marched against the war and was classy ethical and kind without giving a hint of being a spoiled or privileged brat. I only met her sister once, but she was also very sweet.
For all the harm that family has cause America, they are still a family and we all know they are hurting right now.
Tipperary
(6,930 posts)More good people than bad here on du.
EffieBlack
(14,249 posts)Hav
(5,969 posts)In this case, a "long" goodbye as opposed to a sudden death can be, for lack of a better word, a blessing to a degree. One has at least the opportunity to say goodbye and maybe enjoy some time together. But is also a very demanding and tough situation for everyone in the family to see someone slipping away slowly, not knowing what the next morning brings. No ill wishes from me, we only have this one live on earth and we all know what it's like to lose a loved one.