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highplainsdem

(49,029 posts)
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 09:06 PM Apr 2018

John Dean: "Cohen is the door to the end, with Don Jr. and Ivanka providing the path."

Tweet from Dean, commenting on this New Yorker article

https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/michael-cohen-and-the-end-stage-of-the-trump-presidency

"Michael Cohen and the End Stage of the Trump Presidency":






Good piece on why we are at the end stage of Trump’s Presidency. Cohen is the door to the end, with Don Jr. and Ivanka providing the path. US Attny SDNY is a far great problem than Mueller. Trump has a two-front war to deal with, and invited it by running. https://apple.news/Ahzj7bo4IPhG2gLyEKclGoQ
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John Dean: "Cohen is the door to the end, with Don Jr. and Ivanka providing the path." (Original Post) highplainsdem Apr 2018 OP
I am not getting my hopes up. nope. riversedge Apr 2018 #1
I'm with you oberliner Apr 2018 #3
I think it has to be Obstruction related to even begin to get my hopes up. riversedge Apr 2018 #4
Me neither. An autocrat who pretty much controls the federal government, pangaia Apr 2018 #8
Sadly, I'm there, too. BobTheSubgenius Apr 2018 #10
me either..better to concentrate on nov 18 elections Demovictory9 Apr 2018 #33
And Eric says, "hey, me too! Why does everyone forget about me??" unblock Apr 2018 #2
Eric who? LastLiberal in PalmSprings Apr 2018 #19
Erik Prince? orangecrush Apr 2018 #20
Trump (n/t) PJMcK Apr 2018 #27
Yep, a two front war. BigmanPigman Apr 2018 #5
It's unlikely he was aware of Putin's plans for helping him n/t Pluvious Apr 2018 #6
I don't think it's unlikely at all ... in fact, I think assurances of help from Putin in 2013 mr_lebowski Apr 2018 #7
This is playing out like an Oliver Stone movie !! Pluvious Apr 2018 #9
Agree 100% triron Apr 2018 #11
I didn't know that! dmr Apr 2018 #15
The NyAG doesn't care about Pootie tazkcmo Apr 2018 #34
yep NJCher Apr 2018 #22
SDNY is a federal court waddirum Apr 2018 #24
That's true, although that investigation can't be stopped by firing Mueller or Rosenstein The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2018 #26
I'd feel better seeing some Schneiderman action. Ligyron Apr 2018 #36
He's probably investigating quietly, not wanting to interfere The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2018 #37
That's certainly my hope. Ligyron Apr 2018 #38
Trump faces more than two fronts PJMcK Apr 2018 #28
Hey, PJ! MyOwnPeace Apr 2018 #29
Pardon me... PJMcK Apr 2018 #32
We have heard zip, zero, zilch, nada...... SergeStorms Apr 2018 #12
Ivanka is playing Secretary of State Barbie down in Peru. nt tblue37 Apr 2018 #14
I just noticed that in another post. SergeStorms Apr 2018 #23
Boy, you got THAT right! MyOwnPeace Apr 2018 #30
I agree tazkcmo Apr 2018 #35
Good for you! SergeStorms Apr 2018 #39
Thanx! tazkcmo Apr 2018 #40
I hear 'ya. SergeStorms Apr 2018 #41
Strange but I can't see the article. It shows up and immediately blanks out. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2018 #13
"...A small, sad operation..." Ouch Hekate Apr 2018 #16
I like the idea that DT has to deal with multiple issues. LiberalFighter Apr 2018 #17
Just a comment, Corgigal Apr 2018 #18
+1 orangecrush Apr 2018 #21
I agree........... MyOwnPeace Apr 2018 #31
kick for visibility triron Apr 2018 #25
 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
3. I'm with you
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 09:23 PM
Apr 2018

A little too similar to the "this is officially the end of the Trump candidacy" takes from 2016.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
8. Me neither. An autocrat who pretty much controls the federal government,
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 09:57 PM
Apr 2018

and the military, has too much power.

BigmanPigman

(51,626 posts)
5. Yep, a two front war.
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 09:35 PM
Apr 2018

The part that is in the hands of the NY investigators can't be pardoned and will probably provide the majority of crimes/evidence of their entire criminal family. The money laundering and racketeering crimes committed during his entire life will now land at his feet and this wouldn't have happened if his big, greedy ego didn't decide it wanted to try to capitalize on the tRump brand and make it more wealthy and well known by running for prez. His ego and greed are what made him rise and now will be the cause of his fall. It will be a very rough landing I hope.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
7. I don't think it's unlikely at all ... in fact, I think assurances of help from Putin in 2013
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 09:54 PM
Apr 2018

When Dump spoke to him via speakerphone are literally what clinched the decision to run in Dump's tiny brain.

Talking about when he was in Moscow for the Miss Universe thing.

You know, where he (allegedly) made certain Ms. Russia won the contest.

dmr

(28,349 posts)
15. I didn't know that!
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 10:44 PM
Apr 2018

I just Googled it to double check. Sure enough!

Yup, no doubt the fix was in.

What a nightmare they have imposed upon us.

NJCher

(35,720 posts)
22. yep
Sun Apr 15, 2018, 12:37 AM
Apr 2018

we may be the ones laughing in the end, because I think he never intended to win and then he did and had to pretend to be a president. Hasn't done a very convincing job.

He is Icarus, flying too close to the sun, melting the wax on his wings, and he is going to fall.

He ran because his enormous-sized ego compels him to wring every last drop of attention that's out there and take it all home for himself. He cannot stand to share even one fraction of a ray of the spotlight. He never thought in a million years he'd win and that he and his family would ever have to pay the price for their many crimes. Trump probably doesn't even think of them as crimes because this is how he's operated all his life.

He flaunts using the office to make money (most recently, Ivanka exempt from Chinese tariffs, sons burning up $70,000 in security costs to us on a trip to Dubai).

He doesn't have even a smidgen of ethics. He cannot operate for even a single day without some outrageous affront.

He will do his own self in. He is practically begging to be prosecuted.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,829 posts)
26. That's true, although that investigation can't be stopped by firing Mueller or Rosenstein
Sun Apr 15, 2018, 01:24 PM
Apr 2018

unless Trump appoints some stooge as AG who will try to shut down the prosecutor in SDNY. But if Schneiderman, the NYAG, gets involved and prosecutes any of them under state law (and I have no doubt that will happen, if it isn't happening already), those crimes can't be pardoned.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,829 posts)
37. He's probably investigating quietly, not wanting to interfere
Sun Apr 15, 2018, 08:16 PM
Apr 2018

with the federal matter. I'm sure Mueller is sharing relevant evidence.

PJMcK

(22,048 posts)
28. Trump faces more than two fronts
Sun Apr 15, 2018, 02:02 PM
Apr 2018

Robert Mueller's investigation has several facets to it: Obstruction, collusion, money laundering and more. These cases are all going to be complicated and intertwined but they all point directly at Trump.

Now, the Attorney General for the Southern District of NY has the Michael Cohen cases which obviously include Trump. That's going to make Trump crazy because Cohen must know so much dirt about Trump.

Then there's the Stormy Daniels lawsuit. In spite of Trump's disavowal, he's caught up in that case. Add to that Karen McDougal's and Summer Zervos's cases and Trump's got his hands full, (pardon the pun).

Trump has violated the Emoluments Clause of the U.S. Constitution and there is movement in Congress to address that.

These are just off the top of my head and I'm sure there are many more legals troubles for Trump.

He's in for a world of hurt from many directions. It's frightening to see such a small, cowardly man with such incredible powers available to be in such a cornered and threatened position. How he reacts may very well determine the future of our country and perhaps, the world.

MyOwnPeace

(16,937 posts)
29. Hey, PJ!
Sun Apr 15, 2018, 02:40 PM
Apr 2018

You do not need to ask for the pun to be pardoned - it was a good one!!!! Besides, we're not talking about pardons around here at this point!

SergeStorms

(19,204 posts)
12. We have heard zip, zero, zilch, nada......
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 10:10 PM
Apr 2018

from Little Donnie Jr, Erik, Ivanka or Jared lately. It's almost as if they're trying to stay out of the limelight! but that can't be true, because it's just not in the nature of a Trump to avoid the limelight.

I hope Ivanka is designing (or stealing a design from someone else, more likely) some really chic prison uniforms for the entire family. Some in a nice 'Peach', or perhaps 'Salmon'.

SergeStorms

(19,204 posts)
23. I just noticed that in another post.
Sun Apr 15, 2018, 04:00 AM
Apr 2018

Amazing, isn't it? Our government has no real diplomats to send abroad. We have an air-headed, part-time shoe designer, with the intelligence of a baggie full of wet hair, making decisions that will have long lasting effects between the two countries. Oh, and she's wearing a spring house dress more appropriate for a PTA meeting, or some shopping at Target.

This is the most fucked-up administration that anyone could ever imagine in a seven day methamphetamine/alcohol binge.

MyOwnPeace

(16,937 posts)
30. Boy, you got THAT right!
Sun Apr 15, 2018, 02:43 PM
Apr 2018

However, I doubt that she's really making any "executive" decisions regarding policy - she's just looking for more people/countries to give the family corporations more breaks!

tazkcmo

(7,300 posts)
35. I agree
Sun Apr 15, 2018, 06:49 PM
Apr 2018

And I've had several of those binges and never came close to anything this f'ed up.

Btw, clean and sober over 15 years!

SergeStorms

(19,204 posts)
39. Good for you!
Mon Apr 16, 2018, 01:48 AM
Apr 2018

Congratulations! That's an extremely difficult thing to do. You should be very proud.

tazkcmo

(7,300 posts)
40. Thanx!
Mon Apr 16, 2018, 01:58 AM
Apr 2018

The drinking part was surprisingly easy while the meth part predictably wasn't. The "plus" side to those 3 or 4 day binges was having the most meticulously groomed moustache in the greater KC metropolitan area! Lol

SergeStorms

(19,204 posts)
41. I hear 'ya.
Mon Apr 16, 2018, 03:33 PM
Apr 2018

I sort of kicked the habits by myself, but I wasn't into it too awful hard. I still held down a job all the while. And I have a very meticulously groomed beard myself!

Corgigal

(9,291 posts)
18. Just a comment,
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 11:20 PM
Apr 2018

New York State, you should have blown this criminal family away years ago. New Jersey, you too had your chance. Whoever got the payoff in the end for those winks, kiss our asses.

MyOwnPeace

(16,937 posts)
31. I agree...........
Sun Apr 15, 2018, 02:45 PM
Apr 2018

There has to be a long trail of pockets that have been stuffed along the way to have gotten us to this point. Perhaps a case of "no problem, someone else will take care of it................"

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