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sheshe2

(83,933 posts)
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 07:54 PM Apr 2018

Will Michael Cohen Flip On His Boss?

Ouch.

Michael Cohen has never faced attorneys like the ones investigating him.
The federal prosecutors looking into Cohen, the longtime lawyer and fixer for Donald Trump, have deep and varied experience with financial crimes such as bank fraud, money laundering, and racketeering. On Friday, they submitted a court filing that gave the first glimpse into the investigation that exploded into the public eye with an FBI raid on Cohen’s office and home on Monday.

Because of attorney-client privilege issues, it is exceedingly rare for attorneys’ offices to be raided as Cohen’s were. There are multiple safeguards against prosecutorial abuse in this regard, such that any attorney to whom this happens is usually found (or pleads) guilty of conspiracy to commit a crime.

And most attorneys aren’t stupid enough to tape all their conversations with their clients.

Cohen has long been counted as one of Trump’s most ardent loyalists. But Cohen of all people would know that Trump doesn’t return loyalty. Beyond that, Trump can’t protect him. Much as Trump may have been trying to signal his intent to protect his associates using the Scooter Libby pardon, Cohen is being investigated for both federal and state crimes–and presidential pardon power doesn’t extend to state crimes.

And Cohen is potentially looking at doing a lot of time in the big house, assuming that judges allow the various recordings and pieces of evidence taken in the raids to be used against him. It’s unlikely that a future Republican president will intercede on his behalf. He’ll be left hanging in the wind.

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Blowing in the wind.
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Will Michael Cohen Flip On His Boss? (Original Post) sheshe2 Apr 2018 OP
There's no honor among thieves. nt Laffy Kat Apr 2018 #1
they'll flip. They arent stupid enuff to actually believe trump wont be relieved of office... samnsara Apr 2018 #2
You think the Republicans will vote to impeach Trump? oberliner Apr 2018 #4
Trump can pardon him for any federal crimes oberliner Apr 2018 #3
Yet he can't for state crimes. nt sheshe2 Apr 2018 #6
Governor could oberliner Apr 2018 #8
but if it's NY they won't mnmoderatedem Apr 2018 #10
NY had a Republican governor for 12 years - up through 2007 oberliner Apr 2018 #36
all the more reason to vote! mnmoderatedem Apr 2018 #37
Yeah, nothing to worry about right? XRubicon Apr 2018 #11
I don't think he will flip on Trump oberliner Apr 2018 #13
No need to worry then. XRubicon Apr 2018 #16
That is exactly why I do worry oberliner Apr 2018 #35
Won't. smirkymonkey Apr 2018 #14
Of NY????? sheshe2 Apr 2018 #15
NY had a Republican governor for 12 years - up through 2007 oberliner Apr 2018 #34
Governor won't. As I'm sure you know. Squinch Apr 2018 #30
Depends who wins the election oberliner Apr 2018 #33
What's with you? You know there isn't going to be a republican governor. Squinch Apr 2018 #38
He is too tight with Russian mob like Manafort and won't flip wishstar Apr 2018 #5
The newspaper. sheshe2 Apr 2018 #12
All is lost. democratisphere Apr 2018 #7
Not immediately but... kentuck Apr 2018 #9
He built his life around loyalty to Donnie. unblock Apr 2018 #17
I don't think he will. bearsfootball516 Apr 2018 #18
He cannot. Codeine Apr 2018 #19
I think he & Manafort may be more afraid of getting whacked for talking ... Hekate Apr 2018 #23
This is true. I don't think he'll flip, but he will be convicted and lots of sewage willl Squinch Apr 2018 #31
This needs to be written in 30s mobster slang ProudLib72 Apr 2018 #20
This fool is arrogant and will hold out to the very end. Tatiana Apr 2018 #21
If he doesn't flip... too bad LiberalFighter Apr 2018 #22
I'll believe it when I see it misanthrope Apr 2018 #24
I suspect he' already started crying like a baby and singing like a bird EffieBlack Apr 2018 #25
No future president better pardon ANY of these fools and criminals. american_ideals Apr 2018 #26
Nope lunasun Apr 2018 #27
I wish. Heard he cried in court Friday? flibbitygiblets Apr 2018 #28
Sounds like Crutchez_CuiBono Apr 2018 #29
This guy is so dumb he'll do time rather than tell the truth about Trump. Vinca Apr 2018 #32

samnsara

(17,643 posts)
2. they'll flip. They arent stupid enuff to actually believe trump wont be relieved of office...
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 08:00 PM
Apr 2018

..before he can grant a pardon.

mnmoderatedem

(3,729 posts)
37. all the more reason to vote!
Sun Apr 15, 2018, 08:59 AM
Apr 2018

cant' imagine the governership flipping in NY based on everything that has transpired.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
35. That is exactly why I do worry
Sun Apr 15, 2018, 08:29 AM
Apr 2018

I wish Cohen would flip so that all the ugly truth can come out about Trump.

We need every advantage we can to swing the R's in Congress to impeach.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
34. NY had a Republican governor for 12 years - up through 2007
Sun Apr 15, 2018, 08:28 AM
Apr 2018

You never know what can happen in politics, as 2016 illustrates.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
33. Depends who wins the election
Sun Apr 15, 2018, 08:27 AM
Apr 2018

You do know that New York had a Republican governor for 12 years up to 2007, right?

sheshe2

(83,933 posts)
12. The newspaper.
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 08:22 PM
Apr 2018

The Don.



He knows that.

Crime family and they are coming for him. He knows this and he will flip.

kentuck

(111,110 posts)
9. Not immediately but...
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 08:16 PM
Apr 2018

..if they show him that he can go to jail for up to 20 years or he can cooperate and serve 2 years or less, then he might reconsider?

unblock

(52,332 posts)
17. He built his life around loyalty to Donnie.
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 08:31 PM
Apr 2018

Stupid move on his part, obviously, but he's the sort of person who thinks he's doing the upright and proper thing by being loyal to Donnie to the bitter end.

Making a deal means not just admitting failure but doing something he thinks is dishonorable.

Can't see him doing it.

That said, not sure it's needed. Sounds like they have hard evidence, hopefully more than what they need.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
19. He cannot.
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 11:12 PM
Apr 2018

The Mob is tied into this group too deeply. He knows if he flips he’s dead, sooner or later.

Hekate

(90,837 posts)
23. I think he & Manafort may be more afraid of getting whacked for talking ...
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 11:30 PM
Apr 2018

...than of going to prison for saying nothing.

Squinch

(51,022 posts)
31. This is true. I don't think he'll flip, but he will be convicted and lots of sewage willl
Sun Apr 15, 2018, 07:39 AM
Apr 2018

become public. I wouldn't be overly surprised if, when he and Manafort got to jail, one or both of them met with unfortunate accidents even if they don't flip.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
20. This needs to be written in 30s mobster slang
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 11:24 PM
Apr 2018

"Youse gonna sing like a canary, see? Else youse gonna find yourself cooling your heels in da big house."

Tatiana

(14,167 posts)
21. This fool is arrogant and will hold out to the very end.
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 11:26 PM
Apr 2018

Like Manafort.

I think this ends with him going to prison.

LiberalFighter

(51,105 posts)
22. If he doesn't flip... too bad
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 11:28 PM
Apr 2018

FBI probably have plenty on him by now. And whether he flips or not that material will come out and still destroy him and DT. IMO

 

EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)
25. I suspect he' already started crying like a baby and singing like a bird
Sun Apr 15, 2018, 01:37 AM
Apr 2018

He's a wimp. He talked big when he had Trump backing him up and he was dealing with people who didn't know any better. But he's in the big leagues now and has never encountered anything like this. He's probably not talking much smack now - at least not to Mueller.

american_ideals

(613 posts)
26. No future president better pardon ANY of these fools and criminals.
Sun Apr 15, 2018, 01:41 AM
Apr 2018

The Nixon pardon was a travesty.
Obama's decision not to prosecute the torturers, and not to expose the Iraq war lies, was a travesty.

None of this "moving on" stuff. As a country we need to face our past and let the rule of law rule. Criminals should be prosecuted and go to prison.

Crutchez_CuiBono

(7,725 posts)
29. Sounds like
Sun Apr 15, 2018, 02:27 AM
Apr 2018

a good candidate for The Witness Protection Agency. If he was a mob attorney, you'd be watching behind you forever.

Vinca

(50,311 posts)
32. This guy is so dumb he'll do time rather than tell the truth about Trump.
Sun Apr 15, 2018, 07:45 AM
Apr 2018

Meanwhile, back on the golf course, Don will be convulsed in laughter for the first time in his life.

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