Any word from the "Trump is less likely to start a war than Clinton" crowd?

[Bleacher Creature]

That worked out well.

[BootinUp]

1. I'm also curious ?

[dhol82]

2. Doubt they will ever reply.

But, just as a exploration, I will send an email to my one and only winger.

[DumpDrumpf]

3. Theyre too busy swiping right on

farmers only dot com.

[Mike Nelson]

4. Not a peep...

...yet. They will probably blame Obama and Hillary.

[BootinUp]

5. yes. they will. nt

[Takket]

6. where you at susan sarandon?????????????????????????

[Wwcd]

7. Lounging comfortably in one of he multi million $$$$ hideaways

While Innocents with nothing but the clothes on their backs flee from being blown up tonight.

where you at susan sarandon?????????????????????????

[DRoseDARs]

8. If I was her I'd be talking with my lawyer and making DAMNED sure I hadn't received any Russian $$$.

eom

[betsuni]

9. I have a feeling they'll ignore any little war things Trump does and spend all their time

ranting and screaming about how Hillary Clinton is appearing at a DNC fundraiser. Priorities!

[sheshe2]

15. Yup

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210489212

[NurseJackie]

10. Fuck Susan Sarandon!

She's too scared to show her face! Not a word, huh?

[Cha]

14. Fucking Shite for brains RatF******

Green Party's Jill Stein Says Hillary Clinton's Policies Will 'Start a Nuclear

snip//

Presidential candidate declares 'Hillary's policies are much scarier than Donald Trump who does not want to go to war with Russia,' while answering callers in a C-SPAN interview.

https://www.haaretz.com/world-news/green-party-s-jill-stein-says-hillary-clinton-will-start-a-nuclear-war-1.5449129

Oh Fucking "nuclear" is now, stein

Hillary Clinton was more dangerous than Donald Trump: Susan Sarandon

LONDON: Legendary actor Susan Sarandon said if Hillary Clinton had won last year's US Presidential Elections, the US would be in war zone today.

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/magazines/panache/hillary-clinton-was-more-dangerous-than-donald-trump-susan-sarandon/articleshow/61830158.cms

Shite for brains doubled down after election.

[BlueMTexpat]

23. F**k them both ... and everyone

who STILL thinks like them!

Neither has had any credibility with me since 2000, when their rhetoric also affected the outcome of a Presidential election. That result made the world SO much more dangerous.

They have learned absolutely zilch since 2000.

F**k also Teresa May and Emmanuel Macron! BOTH should have known better - especially Macron! May is a lost cause, IMO.

[Cha]

24. Mahalo, BlueMTexpat! I wondered about

Macron, too.. and even May. WTH! When I saw that my heart sank .. giving our sociopathic asshole cover.

stein is in it for the money and the fuckery.. she'll never get over that.

And, ssarondon has her $50 Million $$$$.. and doesn't give a SHITE about anybody else.. so she'll Never learn.

[BlueMTexpat]

74. I hope that Macron has learned his

lesson. All his fawning and praise for Trump amounted to zilch.

Trump's pulling the US out of the Iran agreement and moving the US Embassy to Jerusalem have been symbolic f**k-yous to the civilized world.

They have received the message.

And no, the "true believers" will never learn!

[Eliot Rosewater]

68. Tons of folks who think risking seats to cons is worth electing a pure candidate.

Hell, if they get their way our next candidate for prez....never mind, cant talk about that

[sheshe2]

16. Agreed.

Burn it all down Susie...FU!

[Cha]

25. I just thought of a Dem slogan..

probably has been done before.

VOTE BLUE and Get Green, TOO.. FUCK OFF Stein and Sarandon.

See!





http://voteblue.blogspot.com/

she

[BlueMTexpat]

27. Great graphics, Cha!

[Cha]

28. I lucked out, Blue.. I googled

Vote Blue and get green too..

And, they came up! And, I put it in my sig line I liked it so much!

[sheshe2]

32. Love 💕 this!

Thanks, Cha! 😊

[Cha]

33. We don't need no stinking Fake green..

Thank you, she!😊

[Me.]

48. There's A Slogan I Can Get Behind

[Cha]

58. IkR! We don't need stein and sarandon's dangerous LIES

to GO GREEN!

Me

[Wwcd]

57. Its a Winner, Cha! Love the graphic

[Cha]

59. Yeah, VOTE BLUE.. You Really Will Get GREEN!

GOTV! Me

Mahalo, Wwcd!

[Gothmog]

65. Susan Sarandon is an asshole sho is happy that trump was elected

[workinclasszero]

11. They are too busy swilling Russian vodka

to care.

[XRubicon]

12. Pretty sure they were all trolls.

Or Russians.

But I am with you, let's hear from them now.

[Cha]

13. Hiding under a rock until the Midterms &

2020 when they come out again to RF.

Or do they even do midterms? Just LIE when they run for potus?

Green Party's Jill Stein Says Hillary Clinton's Policies Will 'Start a Nuclear

snip//

Presidential candidate declares 'Hillary's policies are much scarier than Donald Trump who does not want to go to war with Russia,' while answering callers in a C-SPAN interview.

https://www.haaretz.com/world-news/green-party-s-jill-stein-says-hillary-clinton-will-start-a-nuclear-war-1.5449129

Oh Fucking "nuclear" is now, stein

Hillary Clinton was more dangerous than Donald Trump: Susan Sarandon

LONDON: Legendary actor Susan Sarandon said if Hillary Clinton had won last year's US Presidential Elections, the US would be in war zone today.

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/magazines/panache/hillary-clinton-was-more-dangerous-than-donald-trump-susan-sarandon/articleshow/61830158.cms

Shite for brains doubled down after election.

[Awsi Dooger]

17. That was a remarkably stupid crowd

The people who strain for details instead of the very basic measure that the more unhinged and reactive candidate would likely take us to war.

[mcar]

18. I don't expect much

[Roy Rolling]

19. Now I know what +1000 really means

Maureen O'Dowd wrote a whole column about it, and forever was banished from my readable opinion-writers list. Susan Sarandon should get the same treatment and be made to eat her words.

[Scurrilous]

20. 3 words actually...

[Cha]

29. In Neon!

Mahalo, Scurrrilous

[Scurrilous]

31. ...

[BobTheSubgenius]

21. Well? WELL?

What hasnt worked out well over the last year plus? Well-oiled machine, meticulous planning, flawless execution.

A wonder to behold, all the way.

[Jim Lane]

22. You won't get any word from them HERE.

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It's kind of funny that so many people in this thread are cackling about how no one is posting on DU in support of Trump and against Clinton -- funny because, as we (and they) all know, any such post would be quickly removed.

I never considered Trump to be more peace-oriented than Clinton. In that we're in agreement. The difference between me and the others posting in this thread is that I don't take the absence of pro-Trump DU posts as support for the pro-Clinton side of the argument.

[betsuni]

35. HERE?

Hillary Clinton: The International Neocon Warmonger
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10247917

Hillary Clinton is a Warmonger
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511744888

Assange brands Hillary Clinton a warmonger who "gets an emotional rush out of killing people"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511184741


A lot more where that came from.

[Jim Lane]

42. Thanks for proving my point

Of the three posts you cite, the two that actually accused Clinton of being a warmonger were from people who haven't posted here since 2016. The third post, by struggle4progress, merely reported Assange's accusation without endorsing it.

Here's the point: The reason that the vehemently anti-Clinton people haven't posted on DU about the Syria strike is that many of them were PPR'd or FFR'd long ago. Others have left in disgust because they know that any post that presents their views about Clinton will be quickly removed.

This is not a First Amendment issue. The site's admins have the right to implement whatever policies they want. It just means that you have to take the context into account before drawing inferences from the absence of posts on DU.

[sheshe2]

43. Yes.

They had issues with Hillary being called the C word here, accusing black members of voting the way they did..cause Stockholm Syndrome and those watermelon and fried chicken threads. Oh and lest we forget, those that admitted proudly that they did not vote Hill in the general election. Last I saw they are all posting at JPR. I read that an admin or is she a founder, marym said it was a okay with Hill to be called the C word there, she had no problem with that at all...though she gave a stern warning. Never ever call another poster that here!!!!! That would be rude, insensitive and unacceptable. Lol...good to know JPR has some ethics...

Jim Lane
42. Thanks for proving my point

Of the three posts you cite, the two that actually accused Clinton of being a warmonger were from people who haven't posted here since 2016. The third post, by struggle4progress, merely reported Assange's accusation without endorsing it.

Here's the point: The reason that the vehemently anti-Clinton people haven't posted on DU about the Syria strike is that many of them were PPR'd or FFR'd long ago. Others have left in disgust because they know that any post that presents their views about Clinton will be quickly removed.

This is not a First Amendment issue. The site's admins have the right to implement whatever policies they want. It just means that you have to take the context into account before drawing inferences from the absence of posts on DU.

[Jim Lane]

45. Thanks for supporting my point that they don't post HERE. (n/t)

[Gothmog]

47. Really?

That is an amusing spin. Thank you for the amusement

[betsuni]

52. HERE!

[NurseJackie]

54. That's a very specific distinction.

[Jim Lane]

55. Yes, too specific for some people to understand, apparently. (n/t)

[NurseJackie]

56. Nope. That's definitely not the case. (Try again.) ...

55. Yes, too specific for some people to understand, apparently. (n/t)

Nope. That's definitely not the case. (Try again.) Why did you feel the backhanded insult was necessary? What good purpose does it serve? Did it make you feel better to insinuate that "some people" are incapable of understanding.

I assure you, Jim, that "some people" are much more intelligent and aware than you seem to believe.

[Cha]

60. Well Done,

Jackie!

[ehrnst]

61. +1000. (nt)

[Gothmog]

67. I am still amused by the fact that Jim was torally wrong on the DNC fraud lawsuit

Jim amuses me. He is never right in his claims but tries to divert attention from the weakness of his posts by claiming that everyone else is not bright enough to understand his so-called brilliance. This weak argument is bad that it is funny

[Gothmog]

63. We understand your posts but we are not buying your faux outrage

Faux outrage is a weak argument. Again we understand your posts but we are not buying what you are selling. Your defense of posters whu urged voters to not vote or to vote for Jill stein gave the victory to trump. You may defend these positions to your heart's content but do not expect real Democrats to buy your faux outrage

[Gothmog]

64. The real democrats understand you faux outrage but we are rejecting your feeble claims

Do not assume that a silly argument is too advanced for real democrats to understand

[Eliot Rosewater]

69. Did you notice the posters misogynist use of "cackling"?

Wow, this person's position cant be clearer. I shouldnt be able to read it though, not here, for FUCK sake

[NurseJackie]

71. No surprises there. Some things are too obvious anyway.

[Me.]

49. And There You Have It

[betsuni]

51. LOL

"Others have left in disgust because they know that any post that presents their views about Clinton will be quickly removed." OMG!
JIM! "This is not a First Amendment issue"

[Gothmog]

46. I visited JPR today

WOW. There was no nerve agent attack in the UK snd the syrian gas attack was faked. The russian trolls are active on JPR. I am still amused at how many pizzagate threads there were on JPR

How is the bogus DNC lawsuit appeal going? That lawsuit is not discussed on the legal blogs in the real world

[joshcryer]

26. They're too busy crumped up in a ball crying to themselves.

Or the more irrational of them are pretending no boots on the ground, etc.

[oberliner]

30. Remember this?

Link to tweet

[Gothmog]

66. I remember this

The idiots on JPR were convinced that Hillary was a war hawk and trump was dove

[Vinca]

34. Don could do a porn star in the Rose Garden while lobbing missiles and grinding up kittens and

his base would still support him. It's a cult. He can do no wrong.

[Gothmog]

36. The idiots on JPR must be happy

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[VOX]

37. They're hoping for an invitation to a Moscow dinner at Putin's table.

Right where Jill Stein and Mike Flynn planted their conspiratorial asses a couple of years back.

[Victor_c3]

38. Is this directed to people like me who criticize Hillary for her Iraq War Vote?

Yes, I criticized her and hold a lot of resentment for her Iraq War Vote (and subsequent more than a decade to make a halfassed apology), but I never deluded myself into thinking that she was more likely to start a war than trump.

Does such a person that the OP is referring to really exist?

[lunamagica]

40. Yes, they exist, startimg with Susan Sarandon

[Bleacher Creature]

41. No. I'm just as critical of that vote.

I think the world of Clinton, Kerry, and a number of other Democrats who voted that way. I've never wavered in support of Hillary, but still disagree with her on that issue.

The OP is directed at so-called progressives who believed that Trump would be less hawkish than her (which was idiotic) and who used that as reason to claim that a Trump presidency might not be so bad (which was pure evil).

People in this thread have pointed to Susan Sarandon, who was the most prominent example, but there are many, many more.

[Eliot Rosewater]

70. To think of how every politician made bad choices, bad votes, that NOW

NOW



you are going to hold ONE bad vote out TO THIS DAY as a way to point out to others how BAD Democrats are

that it happened then...for FUCK sake

WHAT WILL IT TAKE

[Victor_c3]

72. Different votes are more serious or critical than others

Certain votes I’ll let slide, but one for something as serious as war - especially a war that resulted in as many as an estimated 1 million dead Iraqis - I can’t overlook.

Unlike many on this forum, I actually served in Iraq, and not just as a POG, but as an Infantry Platoon Leader. I led soldiers in combat, killed roughly 46 people that I know of, and I lost 5 of the 46 guys that served under my command. And for what? What did I murder and lose people for? For a Bulshit cause that a politician voted for solely because it was the politically expedient thing to do at the time for their career?

Yes, I will hold one wrong vote against a politician - especially when it is as serious as s vote for war.

Maybe I’ll forhive the politicians that voted for that war when they feel the same after-effects as I do. When they deal with suicide, alcoholism, and a slew of severe PTSD symptoms like I do and the fellow vets I run into at my localVA, I will believe they are sorry.

Until then, feel free to judge me and my distaste for those who are cuddly with the war enablers.

[Victor_c3]

73. When I close my eyes, it doesn't feel like 14 years aho

Just about every night I relive experiences I faced in Iraq in 2004. When I’m awake, usually I’m dealing with flashbacks and intrusive thoughts about what I was doing in Iraq back in 2004. Mostly they are regrets. Murdering another human being, even if they were trying to kill me, leaves you feeling guilt and remorseful.

Wasn’t Eliot rose water a character in Kurt Vonnegut novels? The characters was an infantryman in WWII, and a volunteer fireman after the war, if I’m not mistaken. For what it’s worth, I always identified with Kurt Vonnegut and his characters. The sense of emptiness and yearning to help others is precisely what I feel after my war experiences and having found I have blood on my hands after my war. Like Eliot Rosewater and his “foundation”, I could care less what happens to me personally as long as I leave a positive impact on those around me.

So yes, I will let a single vote from nearly 2 decades ago impact my support for a democrat.

[SidDithers]

39. Fuck Maureen Dowd too...

Donald the Dove, Hillary the Hawk

She wrote this 2 years ago, almost to the day.

Edit: didn't see oberliner's post upthread.

Sid

[Cha]

62. Doesn't hurt to remind of that shite again.. these people

need to be held responsible for their stupidity.

Link to tweet

[George II]

44. Susan Sarandon and Jill Stein have gone into hiding.

[ck4829]

50. Kick

[still_one]

53. The lessons of 2000 were too soon forgotten in 2016 by the same usual suspects. Let us hope that

the frauds that they are will not soon be forgotten, and they will be treated with the scorn and ridicule they so richly deserve